Embodiment of Agonies
Creature — Demon
Embodiment of Agonies enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it for each different mana cost among nonland cards in your graveyard. (For example, 2B and 1BB are different mana costs.)
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|Core Set 2020 (M20)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Embodiment of Agonies Discussion
2 months ago
The above comment about sums it up for me, unless you were planning to take it in a combo or other kind of direction! Here are some good Nethroi targets that have low power but make tokens or have good effects when they enter:
Deep Forest Hermit
Ghave, Guru of Spores
Trostani Discordant Trostani's Summoner
Here are some 0-power utility creatures to consider, because they're free to reanimate if they get killed:
Birds of Paradise
Embodiment of Agonies
Golgari Grave-Troll (also a great include because Dredge can fill your GY)
And you'll also want at least a few additional Mutaters in case you have Nethroi out and want to trigger it again:
...all seem like good includes.
Hope this gives you a good place to start and a list of interesting cards to consider. Many are very affordable. Now I kinda want to make a Nethroi deck.
2 months ago
Needle Specter and Cephalid Constable have great effects to give a large creature. Swiftfoot Boots is great in a strategy that relies on keeping a creature around. Embodiment of Agonies gives more evasion, as well as some counters.
3 months ago
king-saproling yeah thanks for the suggestions! I really like Pitiless Plunderer,Opal Palace, and Blade of the Bloodchief a lot! I hadn't come across those cards in my searches and they're exactly things I'm looking for!
Drana, Liberator of Malakir is definitely a great card but she's still up in the air for me. The games I've played her she's under-preformed or just died on sight. Currently Embodiment of Agonies is filling her spot as he has deathtouch and naturally ETB's with +1/+1 counters. He generally provides the same amount of P/T that Drana would except concentrated on one body.
River Kelpie is too heavy and conditional for me Grim Haruspex is better in this slot being much cheaper and providing the card draw sooner with her trigger. Disciple of Bolas could be good but I think I'd want something more like Altar's Reap if I were to do sacrifice drawing.
Thalakos Deceiver could be cool for sure but I already run Zealous Conscripts which has been really good but also I little too spicy. I've already had two games where people drop or just concede outright once I get it going.
Aetherworks Marvel seems lolsy but maybe too cute
9 months ago
The Fae of Wishes engine sounds great and fixes (at least most) of the inconsistency issues the deck has and offers some neat options to react to the opponent. I will probably get some myself for the paper version of the deck. Actually I have no real gameplan for the case, that the opponent has graveyard hate. If its Grafdigger's Cage I would try to win with Embodiment of Agonies and Vantress Gargoyle as milling is still possible, but for Ashiok, Dream Render I have no idea except removal. I'll try to come up with something.
Thanks for the input it was really helpful and gave me some inspiration
10 months ago
WUBRG87 Last thing I'd want is to sculpt your deck into something that doesn't feel like yours(!) - I love EDH's lack of homogeneity. Happy to give you my 2 cents with the direction I'd be thinking of from here though and with not too bad of a budget...
More of a sacrifice direction that isn't 'aristocrats'; add another altar ( Phyrexian Altar or Altar of Dementia ), maybe switch Dark Ritual for Culling the Weak - then you would have a good level of sac outlets to have some heavy hitters like Gray Merchant of Asphodel and Kokusho, the Evening Star replace Noble/Zula/Buccaneer. It's a bit contradictory adding sac outlets and removing aristocrats I know but I think the aristocrats make better use of volume (like tokens) and our boy Chainer is better off packing more value into a big recur-able punch.
If it were me, I'd be thinking:
- Falkenrath Noble
- Zulaport Cutthroat
- Glint-Horn Buccaneer
- Charmbreaker Devils
- Corpse Augur (switch for Disciple as another sac outlet)
- Scheming Symmetry (switch for Intent)
- Dark Ritual (switch for CtW)
- Burning Vengeance (Warstorm Surge and Flayer do it better, or drop Warstorm if you wanted to lower the overall CMC)
- 1 of Vampiric Rites , Cathartic Reunion or Underworld Connections (I think there's enough card selection that all 3 of these aren't necessary. Depends if you like the speed or reusability as to which)
- OK I'm stuck on the last one just now!! Maybe Stitcher's Supplier , but then I'd maybe want the Altar of Dementia instead... I'd probably end up saying Dreadbore because sorcery speed. That way Mausoleum Secrets -ing for your Bedevil is essentially your second instant speed spot removal for Planeswalkers
Also, to your point about the 'Compet-o-meter', I'd say the impact will be from the system rating Zula/Noble highly because of combo involvement in decks that revolve around them and the Buccaneer showing up in Nekusar, the Mindrazer lists, which tend to be pretty savage!, rather than necessarily your changes being significantly worse one-for-one. I actually really like Embodiment of Agonies in this, it's cheap and can be a massive beatstick pretty easily.
10 months ago
BS-T, hey yeah. Thank you! I sort of agree with the aristocratic creatures in here. it's not like creature sacrifice is this decks main focus, so im not getting optimal usage out of them. They're more for synergies with Mikaeus and a sac outlet and like you said: theyre effect hits all opponents.If i were to try to cut them, have any suggestions as to what to put it in place of them? i pulled Glint-Horn Buccaneer , Zulaport Cutthroat and Falkenrath Noble for Embodiment of Agonies , Diabolic Tutor and Desecrated Tomb and the competitive meter went down nearly 20%. not that the competitive meter is any reliable source to go on, but still. any ideas?
10 months ago
i need to get that version of Sidisi. otherwise, he probably would be. i agree with what you said though,bradtheimpaler13 about Graveblade Marauder and Embodiment of Agonies . any ideas as to what to cut for them? by the way, Thanks for the comment snd suggestions! would you mind throwing me an upvote? ill do the same for you too !