Meadowboon
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Meadowboon

Creature — Elemental

When Meadowboon leaves the battlefield, put a +1/+1 counter on each creature target player controls.

Evoke (3)(White) (You may play this spell for its evoke cost. If you do, it's sacrificed when it enters the battlefield.)

Darkshadow327 on May We Never Part | Teysa Karlov EDH | PRIMER

5 years ago

Hmm, some good points here hkhssweiss

I really appreciate this. Both you and DrkNinja have brought up good points that have really sped this process along!

hkhssweiss on May We Never Part | Teysa Karlov EDH | PRIMER

5 years ago

Darkshadow327

Here are 20 cards you can consider cutting:

Hope that helps cutting!

TaegukTheWise on What archetype is my deck?

6 years ago

Allow me to provide context so you guys can better understand my question.

I know my Roon, Mayor of Value Town deck is a good stuff control deck, but I have a friend who constantly makes new decks and wants to test them out. But sometimes he can't make it to the cardshop and he has to settle for 1v1 to see what his decks need to work on. My Roon deck is made for 4 player EDH with its control aspect stemming from the toolbox which is the rest of the deck, Roon is for gaining me more value with my creatures to gain advantage or control the board, politics (such as blinking an opponents value creature for favors), and blanking blockers/attackers for extra control. The deck runs counterspells and also has some cards that serve multiple purposes but primarily serve to hate out Torpor Orb and Hushwing Gryff/Tocatli Honor Guard, a perfect example: Bant Charm.

My other two decks are Nekusar and Krenko so he chooses to face Roon since Roon is not as fast as Krenko, but not as vicious as Nekusar. Whenever he does play against Roon, no matter what deck he plays I find some way to stabilize the board and gain victory. My win cons can be: creating enough tokens with Trostani's Summoner/ Avenger of Zendikar sometimes paired with Cathars' Crusade, Meadowboon or Gavony Township, having a bunch of creatures and dropping Craterhoof Behemoth, or having an infinite combo with Reveillark, Karmic Guide, Ashnod's Altar and a creature that can draw me cards like Mulldrifter or Cloudblazer to get Minion Reflector to make an infinite army of creatures to win the game, or a creature that can remove things like Nevermaker, Trostani's Summoner or Hornet Queen to make an infinite army of creatures to swing with on my next turn, or using Acidic Slime to destroy pesky artifacts and enchantments or lands.

The most common occurrence is that I hose his creature based aggressive decks with Stonehorn Dignitary until I get a threat online or I draw into removal I can abuse, or he scoops. Nevermaker to stall his board when he can't draw more cards to lock him in place until I drop a threat, or he scoops. Or the previously mentioned infinite combo, recently and more specifically, destroying his lands in response to a board wipe that would reanimate him a threat to make him scoop (I mention this because if he didn't wipe the board I wouldn't have blown up his lands, thus I gave him the option to take back the wipe, he didn't, so I blew up his lands and he scooped). The way Roon wins in these scenarios isn't shocking since I'm only facing my friend instead of 3 opponents dividing up my resources to maintain defense while being relevant in a subtle fashion, and 1v1 speeds up the game of EDH tremendously.

After losing so hard to Roon under these conditions (8 times mind you) he is convinced that my Roon deck is a hate deck, or at least in 1v1, and will never 1v1 it again because I can stop his decks so easily (which is completely fair). I think the thought that my Roon deck is not a control deck but a hate deck is utterly preposterous since I don't have cards like Gaddock Teeg or Ethersworn Canonist or Aven Mindcensor making up a good chunk of the deck. The only real hate cards in the deck are Thought-Knot Seer, Angel of Finality, and Stonehorn Dignitary but their effects aren't passive and that I need to commit resources to them to keep using their abilities, and that Stonehorn is more considered control than hate in a 4 player game. But I think I need more opinions to further solidify what archetype my deck is.

My question to all of you is can you look at my EDH deck and tell me what my deck's archetype actually is?

TaegukTheWise on Roon Blink Shenanigans

6 years ago

With the amount of basics you have I would say to either take out Farhaven Elf or Solemn Simulacrum (I say either because of the differing mana costs) I like the pick with the Ulvenwald Hydra with all the non basics. I like the doomsday thing you're trying to pull off with Laboratory Maniac, I would chuck it in my deck as well, but getting the combo reliably isn't consistent and if you draw a lab maniac during a regular game I guarantee you that he will sit in your hand forever and its the first thing you discard since it doesn't actively do something, I get that every piece serves a purpose but lab maniac doesn't serve much of a purpose except take up a valuable card slot to get to a game plan that won't happen often (good try though). My recommendation to you is that you get a Minion Reflector instead since it doubles ETB triggers with a hasty body for mana and it combos just as well as the infinite draw combo you wanted to fire off.

Add Jace's Mindseeker it synergizes well with your diluvian primordial. Instead of Goldnight Redeemer use Cloudblazer, its the card draw that sells this one and at that rate add Mulldrifter over blue sun's.

By themselves Myr Battlesphere, Avenger of Zendikar, can sure make tokens and operate as efficient threats by themselves but they need a bit more to be more relevant, Hornet Queen is in a worse position but in the same boat.Cathars' Crusade, Call for Unity and Meadowboon can shore up the fact that your value creatures and tokens are typically small while staying with your main game plan (while staying cheaper than Craterhoof Behemoth), even if that's fetching for a basic. Swap the angel of invention for the crusade. Instead of icefall reagent use Frost Titan if you want more value locking things down. You have in your deck, you want Leyline of Anticipation since if its in your opening hand its free over the orrery if you didn't have then run the orrery.

I'm under the assumption that you want to be a control variant, which is fine but you need to have more control aspects like counterspells, add Counterspell Disallow, Voidslime and Glen Elendra Archmage she also combos well the cathar's crusade. I want you to look at Ghostly Flicker and tell me how good it is after a board wipe, cards like that are not good cards, you have the right idea with adding other blinkers like restoration angel, and Eldrazi displacer, they are so much better in comparison since they are creatures and can do something versus sitting in your hand and doing nothing after a wipe. Vorinclex seems cool, but I find that stalling out my opponents does better when its my main game plan (he also doesn't have an ETB effect either), I don't see much use out of him otherwise.

A bunch of your cards are good cards but the deck needs more focus. Edric rewards aggressive decks, this deck has aspects but can't always cash in on that. This deck wants to control the board but has a big volume of unnecessary blink (cough* ghostly flicker cards exclusively) and creatures that don't control the board, unlike stonehorn dignitary and mystic snake. You can get a lot more reliable and repeatable card draw out of creatures versus instants and sorceries because you run a blink deck, so abuse that. I don't understand what you seek to copy with cards like progenitor mimic, if you want cool creatures go with a control classic like Gilded Drake.

Choose a style and go with it, if you take a look at my Roon deck you will see a lot of cards that don't seem to synergize, but they have a common and fun theme that's extremely powerful and oppressive since they have an underlying theme. I control the board then I go aggro for the win. Treat your Roon deck like an exclusively ETB/LTB midrange deck at first. There are a lot of cuts I would make if I were in your shoes, but i'm not so its really in your ball court to start capitalizing on Roon's potential. There are also a lot more things to say, but I'll let this comment sink in for now. Just ask if you need more help/suggestions, or check out my list for reference.

TaegukTheWise on Roon, Mayor of Value Town

6 years ago

How the deck plays is that it locks out scarier opponents with its value control creatures and makes allies with Roon's blink ability with the subtheme of hyper-ramp. Eventually the deck seeks to close out the game with said value creatures using Cathars' Crusade, Call for Unity, and Meadowboon due to the deck's huge capacity for low power value creatures. The other threats like Trostani's Summoner, and Avenger of Zendikar are more for go wide strategies and being fantastic closers on their own, that and they combo well with Cathars' Crusade. You can also steal your opponent's finishers with Gilded Drake, along with something similar to the kiki-jiki combo with Minion Reflector as detailed in one of my updates.

The deck is primarily value, bant doesn't have very many offensive ETB options outside of the ones mentioned in my list and Armada Wurm, let alone LTB.. So you have to compensate somehow and be a little more creative. Besides, the low power on my creatures means that Reveillark becomes more and more relevant outside of being a combo piece for said minion reflector.

Roon can be a build around commander, but typically you're building a concept around him, not a playstyle. Value is a concept, its not like Aggro, or Control, but is a lot more like Tempo-Midrange since whatever you draw is good, but it stalls your opponents. The only niche pick in my deck is the Stonehorn Dignitary since it only stalls combat. Now that I look at the deck, I find that my deck isn't built around Roon, but that Roon makes the plan move forward. He isn't like Krenko, Mob Boss where if you just stop him with Song of the Dryads you effectively removed the deck, he's more like the guy that pulls the lever on the machine and can walk away.

I don't know if you have a decklist for your Roon deck on here Hellfiend, but I think that you might be lacking other enablers or not abusing that ally making potential that Roon has if he keeps getting removed like that (at least that's my impression). Look at it this way, Roon is an enabler not the game plan, if they waste removal on Roon, then its one less removal spell to be used on your finishers as long as you have other enablers, otherwise that removal is even more useful when they stop Roon. Unless you are playing actual competitive EDH, then I don't know what to say about that.

I guess this deck is competitive in the casual sense versus try hard. I also never asked for the higher competitive percentage, but I'm not saying I don't want it, I very much like the fact that people consider this to be a competitive list. My deck wants to be fun and somewhat interactive (or at least that's how I intended to build this one anyway). I can also most certainly look at Ixidron, the more I think about it seems like a better and better option. I even have one on hand, however I'm probably not doing the elesh norn thing, enemy graveyard shenanigans and all that...

I find Thought Vessel to be not too very effective in my deck since it likes to interact with the graveyard, even Reliquary Tower is looking to be on the chopping block. I also have enough colorless sources as is for Eldrazi Displacer and Thought-Knot Seer. I have Ashnod's Altar to dodge exile removal or to help with mana in a pinch, and enable my infinite combo with minion reflector.

I hope this clears some things up Hellfiend.

TaegukTheWise on [Competitive] Roon of the Hidden Value

6 years ago

Have you thought of using Cathars' Crusade, Call for Unity, or even Meadowboon instead of Master Biomancer? or is that too high a CMC for your meta? If that is the case I can very much understand why Panharmonicon isn't in your deck, either that or you don't know what to cut. Although I am getting a stax vibe.

TaegukTheWise on Roon of the Bouncy Realm

6 years ago

I see you either bought the prebuilt or you went and got the commander's anthology, either way I like your pick of Roon. Now a bunch of these cards are either niche playable, or sadly don't have much relevance since they do nothing in the absolute worst case, but I'll get onto that topic a little later.

Now first begs the question: "Where am I going with Roon and what are my win conditions" You can't just drown your opponents is straight value and hope they give up because you drew so many cards. So you can go 3 ways:

Bant aggro/good stuff: This deck abuses the fact that Roon is a 4/4 beater with trample and vigilance that can save a creature or remove a blocker, the deck is more focused on the value it gains for using cards like Cathars' Crusade, Meadowboon, and Call for Unity to allow the smaller value creatures that can incidentally help get to the bigger threats do something (swing face): Solemn Simulacrum, Farhaven Elf, Mulldrifter and smaller bodied tokens to get bigger in case the value threats are gone or to close out games faster. It's finishers are go-wide aggro threats that play off cards like the crusade like Avenger of Zendikar, Walker of the Grove, Trostani's Summoner, Hornet Queen, Armada Wurm, and Craterhoof Behemoth to play off of all those tokens. Birthing Pod is a must for this style of deck as it allows you to get those value threats faster with no real setback. typically has some interaction like Counterspell or obligatory Cyclonic Rift, other than that its a value aggro deck.

Bant value control: This style really abuses the fact that Roon can blink stuff. Its focus is to lock its opponents out any way it can. Some styles of this variant vary, like hard lock, and soft lock. It has some of the same building blocks as aggro like using Mulldrifter and Solemn Simulacrum, but it focuses more on abusing Roon's ability with cards like Training Grounds and denying its opponents with value with Stonehorn Dignitary, Mystic Snake, Reflector Mage, Nevermaker, and Gilded Drake. Obviously it focuses less on attacking so its value threats use their abilities more to influence opponent's. It plays counterspells and good spot removal to assure victory, it can even hedge into becoming a stax build, (hard lock).

Hybrid: It has the best of both worlds with, it doesn't focus too much on either but has the ability to win on either front. this style sacrifices a consistent win condition to go and secure a spot to play value creatures and typically beats face for victory in multiplayer by stalling out scarier opponents and making allies with Roon's blink ability. In 1v1 it has the capability to dominate equally fast decks with its splashed control aspect. It uses the crusade as well, along with those huge value threats like the avenger of zendikar and birthing pod (for value), along with controlling value creatures like the stonehorn dignitary and gilded drake (secret tech, run Thought-Knot Seer). Some play more into one aspect over the other, and that's fine.

At the end of it all Roon is exceedingly versatile and can meet most standards you set it to, however Roon decks can be hosed by an artifact and its creature variants. Torpor Orb, if you don't have something to play around this like Naturalize, Krosan Grip, or Return to Dust there is really nothing your deck can do to stop it. The same goes for the creature variants, Hushwing Gryff/Tocatli Honor Guard, however since they are creatures they are inherently easier to remove, like with Swords to Plowshares, and Path to Exile. Some control variants play one or more of the value threats or Meadowboon to play around Orb when they don't have artifact/creature removal.

I tend to stay away from cards like Ghostway and Ghostly Flicker since they do nothing when you have no creatures on the battlefield, unlike their creature counterparts they can't block when you need a blocker. You have found a couple of blink creatures that fit the bill, and one that I didn't know existed! There is one to keep in mind though: Eldrazi Displacer its a fantastic card I recommend. Like mistmeadow witch and Roon it has repeatable blink, but it returns immediately, although tapped it can be used to invalidate blockers or to gain value. However you will need a bit more reliable colorless sources, which is why there are basics called Wastes, if you do run this I recommend running 3-4 wastes (4-6 if you have the seer).

Feel free to ask questions or peek at my list.

I hope this helps your brewing process, as well as others who seek to make a Roon deck!

TaegukTheWise on Roon Blink

6 years ago

I say take out that Flickerform and Rite of Replication out of the deck, Don't get me wrong, they are fantastic cards, but there is really nothing to gain spending 4 mana to blink a singular creature, or dumping 9 mana into something that doesn't win you the game, but only draws attention, I would say yes to that if this was a voltron build or a control shell. Roon is a creature based deck at the end of the day not either of those archetypes.

There are basic lands called Wastes, They are colorless lands that are supremely useful if you are running Eldrazi Displacer, especially since they're basics (you could also be a dick and play Thought-Knot Seer like me). If you ran either a couple more basics instead of those tap lands or put in the lands like these: Scattered Groves, Irrigated Farmland along with shock lands and/or the buddy land/tango land from BFZ, you can get rid of those top deck duds known as signets and run something more useful, like Swords to Plowshares or Path to Exile. You should also run Solemn Simulacrum instead of wood elves based on how many basics you are playing, you could turn this into a hyper ramp deck on the side that's immune to Blood Moon and Back to Basics You could also take out that caravan and put in the ever useful Commander's Sphere, at its worst it can get you a card.

If you are really worried about torpor orb (which we Roon player's ALL should) Then I recommend this removal: Naturalize, Disenchant, Krosan Grip, Return to Dust, Angelic Purge, and my personal favorite, Bant Charm. Why bant charm? It does everything. It can take care of a pesky artifact (torpor orb) it moves a creature to the bottom of their owner's library (torpor orb on a stick: Hushwing Gryff, and Tocatli Honor Guard), and can hit an instant that you don't want to see, it's just good. Get that birthing pod ASAP. Paired with your deceiver exarch, Derevi, and felidar you can pod again and again! I'd say take out that extra blink, its not that necessary. Those instant and sorcery spells that blink do nothing on an empty board state, where restoration angel can be a blocker. Throw in more counterspells, they do more in top deck mode anyway.

Value is good, but it really means nothing if you can't kill someone, let alone the rest of the table, armada wurm is good, but you could do better! Trostani's Summoner, Hornet Queen, and Avenger of Zendikar are fantastic threats by themselves, but what if I told you they had an exceedingly powerful interaction with Cathars' Crusade? I'll let that one sink in.

Some of the cards in the sideboard should be in the main deck, Thragtusk's leave the battlefield trigger gets around torpor orb, so you can still have a 5/3 and 3/3 team of beaters ready to kill the orb player (even if you can't gain that 5 life). There are even creatures that only benefit from leaving the battlefield, such as Nevermaker, or Meadowboon, and Reveillark recurs your whole deck as it stands when it leaves, and if you add the aforementioned summoner and hornet queen you can recur game enders, it can even go infinite with karmic guide and a sac outlet, like Ashnod's Altar, which I think you should be running anyway. Find a way to put in Prime Speaker Zegana, Duplicant, Mystic Snake, and Reclamation Sage into the deck, because they are way too good not to be played in your deck, let alone any Roon deck! You also won't need cards like Oblivion Ring if you have Thought-Knot Seer, reveals a hand and exiles a thing forever instead of having the risk of having it come back, and it's leave the battlefield trigger can make an ally! Day of Judgment hoses you just as much as the guy you are trying to punish, especially with how little recursion you are running. If you are scared of an out of hand board state get Duplicant or Fiend Hunter instead. I find Mirror Entity something I don't play, it doesn't give me value when it comes into play, and I need to pump mana into it to be good, I find myself using that mana to play more blink targets rather than the entity. You could also throw in another Planeswalker that actually benefits this decks overall game plan very well: Kiora, Master of the Depths, she untaps Roon, can get a creature or land we need, and if you ultimate her, gives us targeted removal when we blink our value creatures!

And for my final recommendation I point you towards the Minion Reflector, this baby does everything you could ever want. Doubles your ETB triggers (and LTB triggers depending) and gives you a disposable minion that can swing in with no repercussion! It can also go infinite with Reveillark, karmic guide, and Ashnod's altar to make an infinite army like Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker. If you want more suggestions just ask, or check out my Roon list for reference!

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