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Song of the Dryads
Enchantment — Aura
Enchanted permanent is a colorless Forest land.
Last_Laugh on Mmmm so Hasty
1 month ago
The Reaver Cleaver feels like it'd be right at home here.
A few X spells as payoff would go a long ways here too with all this treasure creation. Exsanguinate, Torment of Hailfire, and/or Genesis Wave are the main 3 that come to mind.
Ohran Frostfang would be a really good draw engine here seeing as you're running 40 creatures and deathtouch for your attacking creatures will be pretty relevant too.
Song of the Dryads and Beast Within I'd run over Putrefy and Bedevil for the added versatility.
metalflame on Minsc, Beloved Ranger CEDH
2 months ago
Surprised you dont have Darksteel Mutation, Song of the Dryads, or Chaos Warp. Staple removal in those colors. Especially if you lock down their commander with the first two. While my minsc deck is quite budget I think you will agree with some of the synergy, and build Minsc, and the miniature GIANT hamster *C*
Epicurus on Runadi, Behemoth Caller: Beef Chief
2 months ago
First off, I am not a competitive player by any stretch. So take any comments I might make with that in mind. It is very likely that I'm just not a good enough player to understand. And I mean that honestly. In other words, I'm trying to learn something here.
Just going on the statistics, the deck has 34 spells that cost 5 or more (with 16 of those cards split equally between MV7 and 8), while only having 10 cards that cost 2 or less. That's more than a 3-1 ratio, with the larger category comprising slightly more than a third of the deck.
Of your mana ramp spells, 4 are in the MV5 or higher category, while having only 3 in the MV2 or less category. Even the remaining 7 ramp spells, at MV4 and 5, can't be played in the first two rounds unless you happen to get one or more of those 3 early ramp spells in the first 8 cards drawn. An even more lopsided ratio exists for the removal.
Constructed as such, when I playtest the deck, I'm almost always drawing for at least 4 turns before I can play a single spell. Just nothing but MV5+ spells and lands. The percentages don't make sense to me.
I guess what I'm getting at is that I've always thought that the ratio should go the other way around. Heavy on the lower cost ramp, and include a select few power ramp cards for a huge mid-game push. Generally fueled by the obvious Elvish selection (Llanowar Elves and all of it's counterparts). And yes, I do recognize that your land base is pretty stellar.
To answer your question, some of my favorite mono-green removal spells are already on your list. If I were to list a few others, I would include Manglehorn, Broken Bond, Caustic Caterpillar, Song of the Dryads and Lignify. For colorless, Warping Wail, Ratchet Bomb and Powder Keg. I don't know if stuff like Chalice of the Void, Trinisphere or Thorn of Amethyst would do anything for you, but they might put your opponents on a level playing field with you. And yes, if all else fails, you could at least have a Fog or two or three or four in the mix to at least stave off combat damage whilst you spend turns building resources.
I think that I'd have to actually see you play it to appreciate how it works.
TheoryCrafter on The Island Awakened
3 months ago
I get it with cutting cards. I often have the same problem myself. Your reasons were understandable. I concur with Profet93* about Song of the Dryads. Normally I'd cringe about the idea of giving an opponent another land, but the way you have your deck built you're likely to win any mana/arms race you get into. Which is why I think replacing Jaheira's Respite with it may be worth considering. Happy Hunting!
*Thank you, by the way, for elaborating on the angel.
Catpocolypse on The Island Awakened
3 months ago
Profet93 Shorter reply just because I don't think a reply the length of my prior ones is necessary here.
Song of the Dryads isn't a replacement for Beast Within imo, but a situation where I run both of them, I'm just not sure what to cut fit Song of the Dryads.
The PWs are not a staple part of the list, in fact they were cards that I spotted in at the very beginning and have been just good enough to avoid getting cut. Not anymore however, as cutting Wrenn and Seven for Abundance instead of cutting World Shaper. Thoughts?
That being said, there's really not a viable reason to run Doubling Season over Parallel Lives, especially when the main reason for the effect is the tokens, not the counters.
Angel of Jubilation: I didn't realize it cut off fetches, but it's also not a card that is ever going to pop up in my playgroup.
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is a card I had in the original concept of the deck, but got cut later as it didn't fit the sac/recursion theme I was building around, especially with the elemental tokens, or any other tokens for that matter, not counting towards the devotion as they don't have green pips.
Profet93 on The Island Awakened
3 months ago
I agree with all except world shaper. Worldshaper is redundancy, I feel the redundancy might be worth more than the 2 synergies abundance provides (cultivator and sylvan). If you feel you have enough redundancy in that area, then swap them out. I say it never hurts to test.
Surprised you pulled the trigger on Yavimaya Hollow, but I am confident it will help you out of a jam or 2. Don't forget, politics (assuming your meta does that).
I believe the reason TheoryCrafter mentioned the Angel is due to it's ability to shut off your fetchlands. That being said, meta dependent. Although I agree, having more more removal might be beneficial. For me, I've always loved Song of the Dryads as it is permanent removal. Extra points if you or someone else has a strip mine to respond to their enchantment removal. Even better against mono black and red decks with little to no enchantment removal and even more fun on their commander, especially commander centric decks. Although it does ramp and you already have kenrith's, it might be worth considering should you feel you need more removal.
Doubling Season > Parallel Lives - Unless I'm misunderstanding how doubling season and parallel are worded, but doubling season would allow you to ult 2 of your PW on the turn they come down, all for just 1 more mana. Does having 3 PW's justify purchasing an expensive card that costs 1 more mana, I'm unsure but wanted to bring it to your attention.
Truth be told, I think you should consider potentially cutting Nissa, Worldwaker and Wrenn and Seven. Nissa +1 is okay synergy, her other +1 is better in decks that have cradle (I know you have the enchantment one) or Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx. A PW's ult should not be the reason for consideration. Wrenn and Seven +1 doesn't put lands in the grave, just "Ramps" you after it's 0. It's -3 is okay. How have your experience been with PW's? I do enjoy Nissa, Who Shakes the World as her static ability is very powerful in this deck, allows you to mitigate tempo loss (if not ramp late game) and it's +1 is relevant while her ult is similar to the other Nissa.
Niko9 on Bant enchantmentz
4 months ago
Nice build! I don't play straight up enchantress, but have a enchant side to a few decks, so here are a few things that I've found good. Not sure if they are exactly what you want for the deck, but figured I'd throw out ideas.
Mirri's Guile is one of my favorite turn 1 enchants, and it goes great with Abundance When you get to a point where guile doesn't have any amazing options, you can turn over your top cards with abundance and then get a fresh pile next turn.
Setessan Champion is another enchantress effect with a little upside of getting huge sometimes : )
Leveler could help you get to your thoracle win faster, though it is super risky.
Arasta of the Endless Web is a decent blocker and an enchant, and you'd be shocked how many spiders people give you. By the time your opponents even see it as a cost, you will have like 10.
Hall of Heliod's Generosity is a great effect, I just wish it wasn't so always expensive to get.
Moon-Blessed Cleric might be a great tutor for you considering how much draw you have.
And I guess Song of the Dryads might be good as removal too.
Again, not too sure how useful these are, but a few I've found handy.
Durpus on Alternative Pongify
4 months ago
Rapid Hybridization, Reality Shift, Resculpt, and Curse of the Swine are some similar mono blue options. If you're looking for colors outside of blue there's Generous Gift, Beast Within, Darksteel Mutation, Kenrith's Transformation, Imprisoned in the Moon and Song of the Dryads if u don't mind turning things into lands.
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