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When Molten Primordial enters the battlefield, for each opponent, take control of up to one target creature that player controls until end of turn. Untap those creatures. They have haste until end of turn.
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Molten Primordial Discussion
4 weeks ago
Have you consider Sengir Autocrat ? Or the instant Secure the Wastes ? What do you think about Goblin Assault , Dreadhorde Invasion or Assemble the Legion ? What about threat effect like Mass Mutiny , Molten Primordial or Mob Rule ? Other token generetion like Field of Souls or Ogre Slumlord ? Have you consider Fury Storm ? If you don't have price budget, what about Bitterblossom or Preacher ?
1 month ago
Do they enter the battlefield simultaneously or in the order that they were revealed?
4 months ago
Mulldrifter and any of the other evoke creatures you like are easy to copy and useful to have more than one of.
Diluvian Primordial and Molten Primordial on the other end are also silly. I have to agree that unless you’re doubling your mana somehow as your primary game plan, cheap creatures will probably be the easier route. You also have to get Riku out and keep him alive.
5 months ago
Obeka looks awesome to brew, but Zealous Conscripts unfortunately doesn't work here, "at the beginning of the end step" and "until end of turn" are different, there's no delayed triggered ability you can respond to with "until end of turn", they just get their things back at end of turn as a state based action, there's no trigger Obeka can exile. I thought the conscripts and Molten Primordial would be really good but you can't abuse the theft, at least with just Obeka's ability.
Something you might want to look at is Myriad. With stuff like Broodbirth Viper or Warchief Giant, it makes copies of itself which also have Myriad. If you exile the "Exile the tokens at end of combat" trigger with Obeka, all the copies you keep also have Myriad, and will make their own myriad clones when they attack again! Don't forget Blade of Selves is also bonkers and if it's in your budget, would work great along with any of the nasty ETB's effects you want to be abusing.
5 months ago
You're totally right, Threaten Effects don't work! I skimmed through the card and I didn't read the reminder text. I knew that the End Step didn't happen, I forgot that Cleanup happened no matter what :/ And such, Molten Primordial and similar effects don't work!
However, I still am very grateful for your comment! I like realizing it this now before actually putting the deck together. Also, another good thing is that effects that last until "the next end step" do work, and so, some of my favorite cards in this deck, namely Twinflame and Voidwalk still work. Also, restrictions breed creativity, and thanks to this I just discovered cards such as Dance of the Dead and rediscovered cards like Blizzard Strix and Slave of Bolas. I'll have to rethink the deck a little bit, and yes, it's a bit of a bummer that Insurrection doesn't work, but also a relief! It's not as broken as I thought, and so it's more interesting! The deck still looks amazing to me!
Thanks a lot for your comment! It's been sincerely helpful! :D
6 months ago
You seem very excited about this deck, and I love that! I don't mean to dampen your spirits, but cards that say "until end of turn" do not put a trigger on the stack, and as such do not work with Obeka. Molten Primordial is an example of this. A good way to think of this is the turn will end if you use Obeka or not. Primordial does not put a trigger on the stack to return the creatures because the effect simply wears off as the turn ends.
8 months ago
It looks like you'd be best off using a sac goblins/artifacts theme, meaning you can get a fairly powerful deck if you make on or two minor theme concessions.
More suggestions soon.
11 months ago
finnegang, thanks for the suggestions! Considering your suggestions:
Proteus Staff probably should be an inclusion. But note the downside as well: "put target creature on the bottom if its OWNER'S library. You cannot thieve a creature to polymorph into your own. This would work for your tokens, however.
Evolutionary Leap does not synergize well with the polymorph mechanic. You want your creatures to remain in your deck, and cheat them out directly from there.
Synthetic Destiny is not as "instant-speed" as it first seems. Read the fine print: "at the beginning of the next end step". The downsides are subtle, but the deck would need some tuning: you lose the thief effect of a main phase Molten Primordial, you lose the combat advantage of flipping a Void Winnower before attack phase, you may flip an untimely Terastodon.