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Anvil of Bogardan
Players have no maximum hand size.
At the beginning of each player's draw step, that player draws an additional card, then discards a card.
Anvil of Bogardan Discussion
20 hours ago
Arcum Dagsson seems questionable in a deck with 2 artifact creatures.
1 day ago
Why no Anvil of Bogardan to hard lock with Chains of Memphis? By itself it forces discard triggers.
1 week ago
I too have a chaotic Tariel reanimator deck. Really like your version as it is focused and streamlined. One card I would highly recommend that's missing is Anvil of Bogardan . Cheap engine that consistently guarantees good stuff in all graveyards.
2 weeks ago
Thanks for the suggestions! I am gonna try to test the draw and take damage cards as they fit with what I’m doing as well. Also wanna try out Anvil of Bogardan , seems pretty good.
3 weeks ago
KayneMarco Yeah that's definitely going in. I just need to get one. At the moment Anvil of Bogardan is filling a similar role, since it forces them to discard the one card they can draw for turn. Not quite as powerful, but it's not too hard to get your opp down to 1 card when you're wheeling constantly.
4 weeks ago
I'm working on a Narset deck that is on a much smaller budget, and won't be nearly as fast as your deck, but some fun things are Anvil of Bogardan to keep opponents locked out for cheaper than Teferi's Puzzle Box once they have no cards in hand. Sure Anvil gives everyone no max hand size, but if we play the deck right, we will be the only one who benefits. It's kind of a non-bo in your deck because you are running Cursed Totem but creatures that force other players to loot like Cephalid Broker can keep individual players locked out if we activate them on their upkeep while we have Narset. We can also do this on every opponent's upkeep if we have IsoRev, but there are probably better things for us to be doing if we get IsoRev. It's definitely too expensive for you curve, but The Immortal Sun keeps opponents from activating their Oathbreakers abilities, since we don't really need to be activating Narset much.
1 month ago
i can understand your confusion, i may have miswrote;
your ruling logic is correct, and you can use that strategy to lock out opponents and win with Laboratory Maniac
what i mean to say is that combining nekusar or Anvil of Bogardan with chains creates a soft lock where people draw for turn, anvil or nekusar triggers forcing a 2nd draw, the 2nd draw is replaced by chains and the card you draw for turn is then discarded at instant speed, and then a second card is drawn, which in the case of anvil is then discarded due to anvils secondary effect. this means that nobody can even use what they draw for turn unless its instant speed because of the instant speed discard during the draw phase. which synergizes with draw/discard pain spells to grind your opponents to death while they are helpless
this is not a bad thing, in dimir self mill is a common and effective strategy to create an effective "hand" of cards via graveyard and recursion. yes it is highly risky and difficult to pilot properly, but i actually want to fill my graveyard so that i can cast things like Yawgmoth's Will , Snapcaster Mage , or Mizzix's Mastery to win the game on the spot with half of rhe deck in graveyard. not to mention i run multiple Timetwister effects so even if i mill cards i need i can just shuffle them away
lastly, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth when milled shuffles my graveyard back into my deck, allowing for multiple casts of things like Lion's Eye Diamond or countermagic, meaning that i never mill out unless he gets exiled and opponents are more likely to lose from either mill or draw damage
its definitely clunky at first but the draw lock is strong enough its worth nuking the "draw 7 take 7" strategy that casual nekusar players use, which is actually not very good since you are giving your table 7 cards
1 month ago
To quote your description: "combine Notion Thief , Anvil of Bogardan or nekusar himself with Chains of Mephistopheles to create a soft lock where opponents cannot draw cards, with chains in play, a Wheel of Fortune would cause everyone to dump their hands and draw nothing"
I'm slightly confused by this strategy. If you cast Wheel of Fortune with Notion Thief & Chains of Mephistopheles in play, everything gets discarded, then instead of everyone drawing 7, you get 28 draws that will be modified by Chains of Mephistopheles . With no hand, aren't you just milling 28 cards....while also locking yourself out of future draw with the rest of them?
Considering over 1/4th of your deck would be gone with that alone, doesn't that put you ahead on being milled?
Is there some rule I'm missing to where it works differently than I'm thinking?
Anvil of Bogardan occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%