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Enchantment — Saga
(As this saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
, — Chainer's Torment deals 2 damage to each opponent and you gain 2 life.
— Create a X/X black Nightmare Horror creature token, where X is half your life total, rounded up. It deals X damage to you.
Chainer's Torment Discussion
2 months ago
Suggested card replacements!
maybe cut 2 mana rocks in addition to the earlier notes I provided.
The warhammer gives lifelink, super! Gut shot is nice cause you can fix your life total before switching 1, point for casting or 2, or 3 points if you target yourself for free.
Same drop slot and you stop opponents being able to manipulate their own life total by playing creatures.
Too slow, and necrologia lets you draw a bunch of cards.
Again, you don't want them to fix their own life total themselves. Blood celebrant lets you fix your own and fixes mana, so good.
I know you like the multiplayer discard, but I think vexing devil is better in this slot.
This is really up to you, I like the idea of trading life for creature removal but your mileage may vary.
You run way too many tech enchantments that you want to be able to get back.
Just a strict upgrade IMO.
cut basics? I like them because you can bring your life down, fix mana, cheat things out, and get instants back into your deck...
6 months ago
Hhm I guess cutting the Runaway Steam-Kin plan for black cards is a possibility. I have the feeling though that Sword-Point Diplomacy is too much with 4 Risk Factors already in the deck and Chainer's Torment and Sovereign's Bite are not really good enough to be worth it.
6 months ago
Does it have to be mono red? Because a B/R life drain/burn deck would work pretty well. That way you can also put stuff like Sword-Point Diplomacy which works hilariously with Risk Factor or Chainer's Torment/Sovereign's Bite and so on.
7 months ago
I've decided to just drop Chainer's Torment all together.
I found in my testing that Antiquities war just over preforms in all aspects. Gets through my deck, finds me more mana dorks/rocks(to better capitalize on the Fall play), and sets up a win con on turn six when fall goes off.
The ornithopters will rotate out, but they are just so good for Skilled Animator and Zahid, Djinn of the Lamp.
Still considering Phyrexian Scriptures...
8 months ago
Silverdrake I like the suggestion thanks! The one thing I haven't been super happy with yet in the deck were the two copies of The Eldest Reborn. I know I have a copy or two of Chainer's Torment around here somewhere, so I'll cycle that in and give it a shot with my casual group tomorrow night.
8 months ago
Looks neat. If you're looking for recent cards you might having lying around that would be fun to play with in this sort of deck, consider Chainer's Torment. Lot of fun to play in limited, which is the closest thing to casual I've played in a long time haha. Have fun with it!
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