Apocalypse

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Format Legality
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Tempest (TMP) Rare

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Apocalypse

Sorcery

Remove all permanents from the game. You discard your hand.

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Apocalypse Discussion

BMHKain on BMHKain

2 weeks ago

Okay. Just checked the list again. I think I got all I need in the first place. BTW; dunno if you're familiar with cEDH but...


Gisela Purifies the Non-Believers of cEDH Boros

Commander / EDH* BMHKain

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I'm currently trying to cut a massive 41 cards for the legal 100. If you want, IF you are familiar with cEDH, I'm trying to find those familiar with the format willing to help me out on this Ambitious Projekt (With a K.). Also...


Sliver Queen, Spark Harvesting Hive Mind

Commander / EDH* BMHKain

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I have to chew some fat here as well. After introducing a Pillowfort Theme. Keep in mind with the Pillowfort theme introduced (Thanks to you, MagicalHacker.. ;)), I not only have some combos that can end up into Wincons; I want your opinion on this if you wish. If so, What should I cut; Apocalypse? Samut, the Tested? I don't want to remove Teferi's Protection either. Make your decision, and keep up the great work, sir! ^_^

enpc on

3 weeks ago

You're trying to do too much with this list - you've combined combo and beats with MLD and general stax, as wel las few "cute" combos which aren't bad but don't need to be here.

I'm not a fan of Teferi's Protection and Apocalypse, Apocalypse only really works with protection and you shouldn't generally need protection as you'll have some of the biggest stuff on board. Braid of Fire, Karmic Justice, Mana Barbs and Personal Sanctuary all feel lackluster as effects.

With all the "play only one spell" cards, I would drop Paradox Engine and Planar Portal - storm feels like the wrong route here. Vedalken Orrery is a wasted card slot. I don't like Staff of Domination here - again, you're trying to do too many things.

Silent Arbiter and Soulbright Flamekin, you don't need either. Kataki, War's Wage wrecks you, really badly. Endbringer feels really expensive. Etali, Primal Storm has a nonbo wit ha bunch of your cards, but is still decent. I'm on the fence about him. I'm not sure how I feel about Defense Grid.

You need a way to give your commander vigilance. It will help with beatdown and so you don't stax yourself out of the game.

Neotrup on Which is better for Boros ...

3 weeks ago

That's an interaction worth addressing. If Apocalypse resolves while Rest in Peace is phased out, thanks to Teferi's Protection all permanents will be exiled but your hand will be discarded to the graveyard (which should be empty). Rest in Peace phasing back in will not trigger it's ability, so your old hand will still be in the graveyard, in case you have any way of taking advantage of it.

cdkime on Which is better for Boros ...

3 weeks ago

You are, of course, allowed to post follow-up questions. The rules are complicated, and it sometimes takes several follow-ups before an understanding is obtained.

You are correct - your permanents will phase out before being exiled, and thus will return. Your hand, however, is not phased out, so will be discarded as a result of Apocalypse's ability.

I am not sure I understand where Rest in Peace fits into this - I feel you might be misunderstanding a different rule, so please elaborate on your thought process.

BMHKain on Which is better for Boros ...

3 weeks ago

So, basically; I get my permanents back but not my hand via Apocalypse's side effect? Good thing I have Rest in Peace in my deck. I think I already made my Descision; I'm choosing Apocalypse as a result. Thanks for the help, cdkime.

Dunno if this should be allowed to be posted as it's not an answer...

cdkime on Which is better for Boros ...

3 weeks ago

Here are the interactions for these sets of cards:

Apocalypse + Teferi's Protection

  1. Apocalypse goes on the stack first.
  2. Teferi's Protection goes on the stack second, while Apocalypse is still on the stack.
  3. Teferi's Protection resolves first, phasing out all your permanents.
  4. Apocalypse resolves second, exiling all permanents in-play and causing you to discard your hand.
  5. At the beginning of your next untap step, before you untap, all your phased-out permanents phase in.

Decree of Annihilation (cast) + Teferi's Protection

  1. Decree of Annihilation goes on the stack first.
  2. Teferi's Protection goes on the stack second, while Decree of Annihilation is still on the stack.
  3. Teferi's Protection resolves first, phasing out all your permanents.
  4. Decree of Annihilation resolves second, exiling all artifacts, creatures, lands, graveyards, and hands. Planeswalkers and Enchantments will be unaffected.
  5. At the beginning of your next untap step, before you untap, all your phased-out permanents phase in.

Decree of Annihilation (cycled) + Teferi's Protection

  1. Decree of Annihilation's cycling ability goes on the stack first.
  2. Decree of Annihilation's "whenever you cycle" ability triggers and goes on the stack second.
  3. Teferi's Protection goes on the stack third, while both the cycling and "whenever you cycle" abilities are on the stack.
  4. Teferi's Protection resolves first, phasing out all your permanents.
  5. Decree of Annihilation's "whenever you cycle" ability resolves second, destroying all lands.
  6. Decree of Annihilation's cycling ability resolves, and you draw a card.
  7. At the beginning of your next untap step, before you untap, all your phased-out permanents phase in.

BMHKain on Which is better for Boros ...

3 weeks ago

Since I'm working on upgrading a Boros cEDH deck to Tier 2.5 or more (Unlikely.), I just wanted to know as I'm also Running Teferi's Protection. In addition, what are the interactions for both Apocalypse & Decree of Annihilation when using Teferi's Protection? Thanks for the help.

BMHKain on MANY questions about both my ...

4 weeks ago

One last thing.

...

I suppose I should read the card text more carefully to be sure of things. That said, I'll try & reiterate Q1 in a better manner:

1: Grand Abolisher is already online in the case of stuff like Krosan Grip, Nature's Claim, or even the 5 Counterspells.

2: Play Isochron Scepter imprinting Final Fortune.

3: Make a copy of Final Fortune. Play Sundial of the Infinite

4: Cast Apocalypse or Decree of Annihilation (I'd rather the Former...), & respond with Teferi's Protection.

5: Activate Sundial of the Infinite to immediately end the turn. (I could've sworn this was instant speed, so it CAN react to Teferi's Protection...)

6: On the next turn, I get my stuff back, sans hand, & others have just a hand.

I was just wondering if this works this way; that way, I can decide between Apocalypse & Decree of Annihilation. Someone may close this after.

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