Hall of Gemstone
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player chooses a color. Until end of turn, lands tapped for mana produce mana of the chosen color instead of any other color.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Hall of Gemstone occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%
Hall of Gemstone Discussion
1 month ago
I'm a big fan of your videos, and I had a couple questions about the deck.
Now that Paradox Engine is a naughty card, what would you do to replace it?
I had some ideas to build Seton as a sort of mono-G Prison deck, using Hall of Gemstone and Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger and maybe even Primal Order. If I were to take that angle, what part of the deck would you recommend I rip cards from to make room?
1 month ago
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Spirit of the Labyrinth
Dosan the Falling Leaf
Hall of Gemstone
Ranger-Captain of Eos
1 month ago
2 months ago
Your very top tier auto-include for lists is going to look like
- Force of Will "free"
- Pact of Negation "free"
- Swan Song cheap to cast and wide in restrictions
- Mana Drain color heavy but ramps the following turn
- Mental Misstep "free"
- Delay not color heavy and hits any spell, delaying for 3 turns is the same as solving it in very fast competitive EDH
Your situational includes are going to look like
- Force of Negation This can't protect your own combos, so it isn't wanted in every list. This is ran in QUITE A FEW lists though, always worth a consider.
- Counterspell Usually seen in mono or dual color decks as the cost can be hard in some 4 or 5 color shells
- Dispel Sometimes cut for a more general counter
- Muddle the Mixture Limited in scope and color heavy but this is more often slotted as a hard-to-counter tutor with a counterspell as icing on the top
- Narset's Reversal this card is pretty nice. While it does see a lot of play, it definitely isn't an autoinclude yet by any means.
- Spell Pierce Before you mock this card, consider how well it catches ultra fast mana rocks and tutors. Noncreature is very wide, and it stops Sol Ring Mana Crypt Mox Diamond Mox Opal Chrome Mox Mox Amber Mana Vault Vampiric Tutor Imperial Seal Mystical Tutor Worldly Tutor Gamble Dark Ritual and SO MUCH MORE. Even for a tempo card, you're still going to catch weird stuff like someone's Rhystic Study because they tapped out to pay for it. Its very strong against blistering fast combo decks, which is why it sees competitive play.
Other blue stuff is usually just too expensive. Paying over 2 mana for a counterspell just doesn't cut it when there are so many threats for so cheap. Don't pay more than 2 for a counterspell unless it does something wild on top. Counterspells with fewer restrictions on what it can counter are going to be better.
This is where it gets saucy boys
- Red Elemental Blast Pyroblast are VERY good. In a pod, there is almost definitely blue at the table. Every single red deck can slot these for commander without fear. Do note that REB works against any spell that includes blue (multicolor), while pyro only works against spells that are ONLY blue (monocolor).
- Fork Reverberate (Twincast) these allow you to copy a counterspell to create a counterspell. More access for red to counterspells. They also conveniently work very well against tutors, ramp, big draw spells, and extra turn spells.
- Guttural Response Weird hybrid color and somewhat restricted but still a good include in most RG decks.
- Burnout a bit worse then the elemental blasts as it costs 2 mana and it is limited. The cantrip is nice though
- Mana Tithe not that good in EDH but give it a whirl I guess
- Lapse of Certainty costing 3 hurts, but this is more a tempo card than anything.
- Dash Hopes Don't play this card in EDH lol
- Withering Boon on the chunkier end at 2 CMC, but in a color that doesn't get much of this. The 3 life and the restriction hurt, but definitely EDH playable. Every deck runs a commander, 99% of which are creatures
- Imp's Mischief can counter a spell by having it target Mischief, as can Misdirection Shunt Swerve and Ricochet Trap.
- Veil of Summer 1 mana green Cryptic Command
- Autumn's Veil Counterspell + silence against UB
- Bind I bet you didn't even know this card existed. Cantrips. GOOD IN THE YISAN MIRROR MATCH?
- Avoid Fate Weird protection oriented counterspell
- Nether Void Mostly ran in stax builds, brutal lockout card
- Planar Chaos One of my new favorite cards. Brutal with recursion like Hall of Heliod's Generosity. Play when you're ahead
- Deathgrip Lifeforce These are based if you have any method of color shifting. Realistically, you could run Lifeforce in Momir Hackball. These cards can cause scoops on casual tables lol.
- Vexing Shusher can render counterspells useless. Similarly, Dosan the Falling Leaf Grand Abolisher Prowling Serpopard Gaea's Herald can all protect against counterspells. Far more marginal but still worthwhile are Hall of Gemstone and Ritual of Subdual for turning off counterspells for opponents.
2 months ago
Hi! I'm also refining my own Hydra Deck:
Commander / EDH
SCORE: 3 | 2 COMMENTS | 342 VIEWS
and I would love your input on what you would swap in or out from your list and I had a few suggestions for yours if you'll have them!
Umbral Mantle - A quintessential piece of Selvala equipment. If you really want to abuse her powers. Coupled with Animist's Awakening in the opening hand you can pull every land out of your deck on turn 3 since she goes infinite by herself.
Walking Ballista - An honorary member of the Hydra family in my book, it's just too good at ending games and removing problems to pass up I think.
Side-Note: I'm not sure Unbound Flourishing qualifies as a win con, just because I generally think of Win Cons as Cards that, directly, end the game whereas Flourishing is super useful but not in that category.
Personally, I'd also be hesitant with cards like Concordant Crossroads , City of Solitude and Hall of Gemstone as they potentially shut us down too (using up mana at the ends of the turn before us to pump creatures like Feral, Heroes' Bane etc). (Gem hall less than the others but still.)
At any rate, +1 from me and any suggestions you have would be very much appreciated.
3 months ago
Hey Kain. There's a lot to unpack here haha.
Hall of Gemstone is strong not only because it allows you to generate green mana with colorless lands, but also because it disrupts multicolored opponents (each turn, they choose one color and will pretty much only be able to use spells and abilities of that color).
Questing Beast just seems like a french vanilla beater to me. He's alright in a planeswalker-filled meta I suppose. But even there I think you could just beat your way into planeswalkers' faces with Omnath and the gang.
Angel's Trumpet is just an odd effect for mono green so I thought you might like it. In conjunction with Silent Arbiter , it does heavy damage each turn to any opponent with a lot of creatures, while also tapping down their potential blockers. Angel's trumpet also gives all your dudes vigilance. So even without the arbiter, since your green creatures will usually be bigger than opponents' dudes, you likely won't mind swinging with your team every turn while your opponents will be at risk putting their tiny dorks into combat.
Uba Mask essentially reads "when anyone draws a card, they must play it the turn they drew it or it is lost forever". Since you produce a ton of mana, you will always be able to play the cards you draw. Opponents will struggle with this though, making sub-optimal plays so that they don't lose the card they drew. Uba Mask is brutal with Teferi's Puzzle Box or Hall of Gemstone , or against opponents who draw a lot of cards or play a lot of counterspells. Even without support the mask is a highly disruptive card.
Abundance is decent for several reasons. It replaces draws, which means you would be unaffected by Uba Mask and would not lose if your library is empty. It also allows you to always draw gas if you're top-decking, or get land if you need it to cast a big spell.
It That Betrays only triggers from sacrifice. Killing something with deathtouch damage will not trigger It That Betrays. He's alright on his own since he has annihilator, but he's also easy to remove. I think better things can be done with 12 mana. Same with the other eldrazi. Sure they're strong, but they aren't that interesting imo (except for Emrakul, the Promised End . that card is super interesting).
Lignify can only target creatures while Song of the Dryads can target any permanent. Also, you can get rid of creatures by applying combat pressure (forcing blocks), so lignify is only marginally useful.
Unless you have an immediate draw effect, Reclaim and Noxious Revival won't return your card until next turn. They also telegraph your plans to your opponents, so if you put something strong on top with Reclaim, your opponents might band together to eliminate you before you draw it. Regrowth would be better imo.
Green is generally weak to board wipes. It would be especially bad if your stored a ton of mana with Omnath and somebody wiped the board, causing you to lose all that mana. Colfenor's Urn and Cauldron of Souls protect your creatures from board wipes.
Mimic Vat is a way for green to steal creatures. Or, you can use it to reuse sweet ETB creatures like Eternal Witness , God-Eternal Rhonas , Meteor Golem , Ulvenwald Hydra , etc. It can also deter board wipes, since opps might not want to destroy creatures if it means you get to imprint the best one.
Not of This World = free protection for Omnath. When you are storing a lot of mana via Omnath, it is all lost if he gets removed, so this helps to prevent that. It can also be used in a pinch to protect vital artifacts/enchantments like The Great Henge or Mana Reflection which wear huge bullseyes.
Sensei's Divining Top is never a bad card, but in most decks it is just filler. Since you're in green you could use this card slot to just draw a lot of cards instead with something like Hunter's Prowess .
Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger (and stax effects in general) is just unfun to play against. Just my personal opinion. I wouldn't feel accomplished if I won a game simply because I dropped a Vorinclex.
Bow of Nylea isn't bad, but there are plenty more impactful cards out there.
Anyway these are just my opinions. EDH is all about playing however you like, so don't feel like you have to make adds or cuts just because they were recommended. Play that Kitten-Hydra if you love the card!
Yes Gingerbread Cabin is lackluster. Inventors' Fair could be a good replacement. Nissa, Worldwaker looks very good here! Extra 4 mana each turn? Sign me up. Prototype Portal + Ugin's Nexus is cool but very situational (you would need both cards in hand, plus a way to sacrifice artifacts). But infinite turns in mono green is extremely rare, which fits your deck's theme of "green doing non-green things", so if you want to reach for that dream go for it! Trading Post might be a good sacrifice outlet for said combo. Sword of the Animist is a common ramp piece for non-green decks. Since you have green, there are better ramp options. Umbral Mantle is very good with Karametra's Acolyte or Selvala, Heart of the Wilds , so yeah I could see it warranting a spot. Worst case it can be used to give Omnath pseudo-vigilance. I agree with your assessment of the Nyleas, there are better cards to sink mana into.
3 months ago
(CAUTION: TL;DR Crap AHEAD; Reason: This is a set of opinions of cards of note for this deck.)
@king-saproling: After all this, I'd like a possible Review on this deck, as well as this:
Commander / EDH*
30 VIEWS | IN 1 FOLDER
This is a 1 Damage KO Deck. Utilizing Card Advantage, a Myriad of threats to slow those down, Heck, I actually put the High CMC stuff in as Atemsis Bantha Fodder. just to win a game; so they're not useless at all as this is how Atemsis, All-Seeing Works as a CMDR; high amounnts of unique CMC Costs for use.
But what about these?
Hall of Gemstone
: (I guess Omnath Reserve works here?)
(Ramp or Kill... I'd rather ramp; not enough powerful creatures to be a "Dragon"...)
(Is this why you said "No." to a
(But why use this, W/O
(I, uh,,, How good is this? I never understood how these effects are "Good".)
(It's a Random Pick, but at least you get to choose which pick needed. II keep.)
7: Teferi's Puzzle Box ( Mindmoil ? IN MY ?! Permanent Keep.) 8: Meteor Golem If only what this guy can do IRL is safe; as it's not. Awesome effect; almost like a Bramblecrush on legs; Artifice also. Keep.). 9. Cauldron of Souls (This looks good for my Cromat "No Counters Allowed" Deck. But why the recommendation?
10: Colfenor's Urn (Uh... I'd have an opinion as long as I know Exile Stoarge Plus'.) 11: Lifeline (I'd like to make a list of stuff hates, & recursion is one. Since we're in theme, this Pases.) 12: Mimic Vat (This is secret tech for Superfriends; but what to use w/ here) 13: Mirrorworks 14: Not of This World (This wasn't chopped. This was Planet-Cleaved. How many creatures here have 7 Power?) 15: Pariah's Shield (I guess it's for Omnath? I'd like to change this up after this as well as work on my Atemsis Deck for this.)
As well as the Losers of this deck...
(There is a combo involving this,
, something w/ Deathtouch, &
It That Betrays
to wipe a whole field clean while going to Value Town. Why the cut?)
(I re-entered this in as it's Mana-Pricey, but we've Omnath Anyway; so putting this online is proof of
's HUGE Ramp.)
(I guess we've already enough flying stuff; & this was just a clunker.)
(Why cut this, & not
Song of the Dryads
also? Is this for turning a creature into a mere blocker?)
(Is this Aura really that bad? Alright,
Tuvasa the Sunlit
has it now.)
(Reclaim is at least, affordable (Quasi-Recursion via Topdecking;
is basically the same, but on
level power. Why does everyone think Phyrexian Mana Cards are so good? I'll never know...)
Scour from Existence
(Do I Other Ways of Destruction? I guess I'll allow the cut.)
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
(Are Eldrazi that Bad here? It's either This, or Kozilek, & It that Betrays. Should I trust my gut on this?)
: Replaced by
indefinitely unless it gets banned.
Key to the City
: (I guess The Quasi-Rummage requiring more mana for one to have a creature unblackable, then untap to Draw. I didn't think I'd be better off w/o Discarding...)
(Blowing up Mana Rocks; someone said (Kinda...), But you were right about this as a cut; I thought it as sketchy.)
Sensei's Divining Top
((?_?) I mean, even
is understandable, but saying Chopp'd to a Big Staple of all Commander/EDH? I'm at a loss...)
(Should I put
((Looks at Card.) Why say no? It makes food, & ramps. Just imagine the (Weiß)Versatility this can do.
It That Betrays
(Why say no to this? is it that average? Remember that Value Town Combo...).
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
(Does this attract that much hate? Is that why the Eldrazi are veto'd here?
Wall of Tanglecord
(Actually, good piont; would rather bust defenses, not use them.)
(Are you confident to suggest cutting
It's one of the best cards in this case, sadly...)
20: Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger (Doubling Land Mana; & more so, while Halfing everyone else? Is the problem w/ big fatties I didn't know of even?) 21: Bow of Nylea (+1/+1 Counter on a Creature? 2 Damage to a flyer? 3 Life? & Retrieve 4 Cards from the Yard to the Bottom of your library in any order? Attackers have Deathtouch? Damn; I'd actually put this in now if I've a way to Untap Freely for this...)
& the underdogs?
(Is this worth keeping? Seems lackluster...)
(Searching for all Forests? Why not Landfall like mad? Opinions?)
3: Prototype Portal + Ugin's Nexus
Extra Turns w/o
. Good, or not?)
4: Sword of the Animist Is this good for ramp? I'm wondering...) 5: Umbral Mantle (Yeah, this could've been good, if the Shaman Staff 1 Damage Deathtouch Steal via IT THAT BETRAYS is far better even w/o the last piece!) 6: Yeva, Nature's Herald : (Is another Restricted to just Creatures worth it?) 7: Nylea, God of the Hunt : Already got a way to Trample like MAD, & I've other ways to increase both Power & toughness for my creatures anyway. Nylea, Keen-Eyed ? Worse here, but better in Animar, Soul of Elements all-creature builds. Oh, & the latter demands Topdecking, otherwise, you might just wasted a good card.
Sorry for the immense sized comments; I just want to point out my opinions; & I'm sorry if So, that said, I'll revise my Atemsis, All-Seeing Deck later; It's night where I'm at...
3 months ago
GrizzlyAtom: Just wanted to say that I absolutely loved the list! Safe to say you hit the nail on the head on almost all of your choices. However, I do highly recommend you make a couple of changes for the general consistency of the deck.
Seeker of Skybreak : Same thing as before, though considerably weaker since you NEED the dork to be out, so this is a potential dead draw or another 2 drop 1 mana dork.
Krosan Restorer : I get the need to overload the deck with repetitive effects, but this can over saturate your deck with non impactful creatures.
Greenweaver Druid : This is just bad, even with the cost reduction.
Elvish Piper : With the lack of high cmc creatures, this is just a gimmicky card we wish can always run.
Elvish Harbinger : Though being a two thanks to Nylea, top of the deck tutors aren't too great.
Sword of the Paruns ; As you said, 7 mana is too much.
Elvish Guidance / Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip: I get why you want to run this, but it ain't worth it to run both. I'd drop the Rites over the Guidance, since you can use Arbor Elf on a forest with guidance.
Leyline of Lifeforce : You have enough of this effect, even if this would be super awesome turn 0.
Once Upon a Time : Doesn't scale too well in EDH.
These won't be direct swaps to the cuts and more of a series of cards that you should highly consider as I don't want to cramp your style.
Emergence Zone : Adds the ability to set up OR win on someone elses' turn for a land swap.
Oakhame Adversary : Draw to get your combo pieces and an elf for your count. More often or not a 2 drop in most cEDH metas and a 1 drop in some cases for you.
Runic Armasaur : More draw, draw from fetches and creature based combos.
Seedborn Muse : I know what you're thinking, "I barely have instants". Your commander is an indestructible digger, every turn you'd get to refill your hand.
The Stax pieces: Go for them, you have the outlet in the command zone and you break parity with mana dorks and a cost reducer at the helm. Tangle Wire , Trinisphere . Root Maze , Manglehorn , Collector Ouphe , Null Rod , Winter Orb , Thorn of Amethyst , Sphere of Resistance and maybe Defense Grid are worth it. Hall of Gemstone :Not good because it can lock out interaction that could be needed to stop another player.
Great Oak Guardian : Recognize that your wins are generated by untaps, and an instant speed board untapper is a recipe for success. It can also save your field from damage wipes and goes infinite with Temur Sabertooth . Also makes Tooth and Nail better.
Carpet of Flowers : Ridiculous ramp, 100% must.
Beast Within : Catch-all removal in monogreen. Definitely a staple.
I hope this helps, I love the deck, will be keeping up with it. Final recommendation would be to use a similar categorization that I used in Yeva for your list as it helps you visualize your deck based off function and see where it is lacking.