Destroy target black creature or black planeswalker. If it was a Liliana planeswalker, it's controller loses 3 life.
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Liliana's Defeat Discussion
2 weeks ago
Sorry it's taken me so long to playtest this.
This works REALLY well, unless your Opponent has a bit of removal.
The are some small changes I'll suggest, to just tighten everything up:
Move Ever After to the Sideboard. It's really only good for grindy games, and often sits in the hand, doing nothing.
Likewise with Nimble Obstructionist. Since you are relying on a Control strategy for the early to mid game, I think Disallow would be better suited to take care of important threats. Stopping something altogether, as opposed to its ability ONCE, seems to be better value, to me.
Hope that helps.
2 weeks ago
Ballzanya Thanks for the feedback! I like Duress, Relic of Progenitus, Liliana's Defeat, and Despise quite a bit. With some help from the other suggestions people made, I really feel like the sideboard is starting to come together quite nicely. I'm worried that the 4 mana board wipes may be too high above my curve, especially considering I'm only running 19 lands.
3 weeks ago
I figured I would have to build Bolas to be stronger, and probably build it to be a little more competitive. I'm thinking fast mana, a legit cEDH mana base, etc.
The other decks will be cheaper because they are either Mono or two color. Probably won't include fast mana.
My issue is figuring out a strategy that each character can run with. I obviously don't want two characters to run the same strategy, and I would like it to be thematic. Liliana might go with a Zombie token swarm style, Chandra with Burn, etc.
I am already planning on including as many on theme cards as possible. I figure Bolas can run Dark Intimations. The deck could also run Jace's Defeat, Liliana's Defeat, and Chandra's Defeat. Each deck will run Hour of Devastation full art Basics.
After that, I will find fitting cards for the strategy, then choose the best printing possible.
I would like to stick to Commander rules as much as possible, meaning only 1 of any card, except Basic Lands. The only thing I'm thinking about changing is having the Planeswalker in each deck actually be the Commander. I think it fits better.
3 weeks ago
For the sideboard, it seems Duress, Relic of Progenitus and/or Tormod's Crypt is a good place to start. Since you're going for a budget deck, instead of Damnation, you could play either Languish or Yahenni's Expertise. Bile Blight, Liliana's Defeat, Despise, and Hero's Downfall are all decent cards as well. If tron is a major problem in your meta, play a couple Rain of Tears.
3 weeks ago
Hey guys - just entered a draft league. They let us pick up 4 packs to start (2 ANK, 2 HOU) and build 30 card decks from there. I think I got the short end of the pulls. Especially when I look at the awesome (frustratingly so) pulls that my GF got, who is even more of a newbie to the game. Anyway, this is what I put together:
Creatures Frilled Sandwalla , Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons, Naga Vitalist, Dune Beetle , Wretched Camel, Ruin Rat, Bitterblade Warrior , Sidewinder Naga , Ornery Kudu , Giant Spider , Bitterbow Sharpshooters
The idea that I had was to go BG for tossing -1/-1 with Vizier, and having some creatures and pumps. Splashed U for milling.
What else did I pull? Garbage, I think. White was especially thin, which is sad because it's one of my favorite colors.
Blue Strategic Planning, Spellweaver Eternal, Labyrinth Guardian , Ancient Crab , Eternal of Harsh Truths, Tragic Lesson, Illusory Wrappings , Shimmerscale Drake , Striped Riverwinder, Open Into Wonder
Aftermath Onward / Victory
Now, my list of cards is recorded at the store, so I can change the deck but obviously cannot add any cards from elsewhere. I'm wondering if I shouldn't have featured Red in the deck, maybe just cut my losses and went RG to keep it simple. Can anyone help me out? It's fairly casual, but I don't really want to get my head caved in for the next two months of MtG.Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!
3 weeks ago
Well are you aware of the defeat cycle of uncommons?
Also the HOU artbook in summary already tells us too.
4 weeks ago
Love the westvale suggestion, i dont know how as i have a playset sitting next to me right now but it slipped my mind.
Crocodile of the Crossing just barely didnt make the cut when i was looking at the cards as i favored Appeal / Authority more and didnt like the 4 cmc. I will add it tho and see how it plays.(Side note: I haven't actually played this deck yet as i throw them up her to get suggestions and then build them IRL so i chose aggro hub as it looked aggroy)
The Scorpion God i packed 2 of pre-release weekend and had wanted to build this deck ever since they spoiled Ammit Eternal and i saw what it does with Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons + Rhonas the Indomitable backing it up, so after reading it and playing with it i have to give it a try. (also kinda funny having rhonas and the scorpion god in the same deck as scorp took a cheap shot on rhonas to kill him)
No to Torment of Venom, it was one of the 1st cards i cut as theres much better removal in standard right now even after the bonuses it could give for the -1/-1 counters.
Seriously considering adding another Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons just dont know right now what to drop to 3 of.