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As it's adventure world I suspect the "adventure" for our hero's will be to travel to the core of the waste and try to jump start the life on Zendikar. In doing so I would expect to still see some Eldrazi around as they are dying out. I don't think that with the Titans gone that all of there brood just vanish but maybe that they have lost direction and maybe even a sense of cohesion.

March 25, 2020 2:21 p.m.

Said on Rule Zero...

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The scale of 1-10 is still a good thing though I understand that as stated above my 8 might be your 5. Where the scale is at it's best is a starting point for a conversation with a new group or with in an established group to sit down and say "Hey we are playing around 8's this time".

March 25, 2020 10:51 a.m.

29 lands too low. You should up it to about 35 at the low end. Think of other formats like standard where in a 60 card deck they run around 24 (yes a mono colored agro deck get down to 18 but that isn't this). That's around 40% of the deck is lands. You want to hit your land drops each turn even if it means the need to cut some high impact cards. Maybe add a few more mana rocks too.

March 23, 2020 4:55 p.m.

Underworld Breach and Thassa's Oracle are two quite powerful cards that have put up good results of late.

March 20, 2020 1:54 p.m.

Said on Ikoria Teaser...

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I wouldn't be surprised to see for the commander product a new twist on the partner mechanic. Where you take two creatures (one or both legendary) and it partners with the other but they are augmented together adding there mana cost together and abilities to make one giant creature.

As to the asked for cycle the Nephilim does fit the bill as well. As most commander preconstructed decks have 3 potential commanders the partner mechanic also fits perfect with this.

March 20, 2020 10:17 a.m.

The argument for cards maintaining value to me centers around profits and not just for WOTC but also for the LGS. If WOTC were to reprint cards like crazy then the LGS will go away as there is no incentive for them to invest capital into expensive cards that they may sit on for too long and have the value printed out from under them. I understand your argument is that lands cost too much, well back when I started you got a random assortment of basics mixed into your starter decks and if that wasn't enough basics for you then you had to go and buy basic lands to fill out your deck. I'm glad this model has changed but this didn't drive players away that I know of.

Even then you can buy lots of non basic lands that for 2+ colors that are <$1 and many will even give you a benefit like gain 1 life. If you get into the $2-$4 range we get into the range of Scry (once standard rotates TBD out) and some other Duels from past sets. As you go up in price range you do get more options. The point is as has been said before you don't need to spend a lot of money to play or build a mana base. There are budget formats and budget options for cards. As long as there are better versions of cards there will be a range of value.

Could WOTC do better with reprints? I think so. Can they reprint expensive cards into the ground? Yes Should they? No, it would have far too wide an impact if they make it too far flung.

It's a balancing act they have to perform.

March 19, 2020 10:38 a.m.

True, but if you can afford a little spending at your LGS to help keep it afloat (or any other local store for that mater) it would be a good thing.

March 17, 2020 10:41 p.m.

I got the X-Men animated series on DVD. The rest I can only hope for.

March 17, 2020 10:39 p.m.

With COVID-19 panic taking root around the world (I have no desire to talk about that validity of said panic) and as a result nations and cities shutting down events and stores I thought it would be good to toss this out there.

Our LGS's are small business that work to stay open on vary slim margins and as such if you can afford to head into your LGS and spend a little money there to help them keep their doors open after this passes and keep some employees getting paid that would be wonderful.

March 17, 2020 5:50 p.m.

Oh I know the cost even though I have played for years my self off and on again but in addition to this I have three children who all play (or at the least did at one point, it's just not cool any more) and they have friends as well that play. As such I know cost is a limiting factor but the flip side is why we have the reserve list to start in the 1990's with Chronicles and then again (new issue) with Fallen Empires where there was just no value to cards and you could buy a pack of this set for $.75 for 8 cards. The value of this set being non existent made there no profit to be had from the set. It's hard to think of this now as MTG is so large and has been around for so long but during this time MTG almost went the way of the Wyvrn.

The mana base is expensive but this is really only for a vary narrow field of cards that span formats. Even these fetchlands that this whole conversation is about are far from required for nearly any deck. I play EDH, Modern, and Pauper. I own only one copy of one of these Fetchlands myself that I was lucky enough to crack in a pack. My Modern mana base is one that I took years to craft and with little exceptions is nearly ideal for many 2-3 color decks that I use off colored fetchlands and at Modern events I have done well enough to have fun and win prizes. You don't need the best/most expensive cards to have fun and win. Do they help, well yes obviously but not required.

March 17, 2020 3:01 p.m.

Gleeock, MTG is accusable to other players outside of just the rich. I guess we would need to set standards to go with that wording just as we would for luxury... So with that said I would say anything that is outside necessity is a luxury (getting a Netflix subscription, going to the movies, getting a pet, buying a game). So yes MTG is a luxury and it will stay that way.

I know the point your bringing up is affordability and that is the point many people here have. Nothing requires anyone to buy all expensive cards to sit down and play and enjoy the game. You have with in MTG so many formats at all kinds of price points for people to get into and even in many formats that are more expensive you can get into and play on the cheap (relatively speaking). Pauper you can build a vary good deck with sideboard for like $50 USD, PEDH your at about $50 as well. You can build a EDH deck that is probably around a 5-6 for $100 if you do some research and have a collection that just happens to fill some gaps (I'm not even talking expensive cards, just your random cards you have). Not every deck you build has to Tier 1 and by current standards $1,000+. If you want it build to it, prioritize it, make smart trades and sell other cards you don't need/want. The game has to maintain $ value. No one is going to spend $4 on 15 cards when the most expensive card they can get from the pack is $.50. That spells the end of cracking packs so stores have less product on the shelf and that would by it's nature raise prices of cards due to supply and demand but we would still see WOTC sell what 25%-50% less packs? Limited would then be the only way new cards would be opened.

I'm not saying no reprints I want to be clear on that and I do want reprints of value. What I am saying is we should not tank the prices as there is a lot more here then just our wants now that must be considered. Peoples jobs and this game depend on that.

March 17, 2020 10:29 a.m.

We should also remember that before Khans the allied fetches were all between $50 and $100 USD and now 6 years after there reprinting and being introduced into Modern are still post standard rotation holding between $15-$25 USD. WOTC printed them into a standard set and there price tanked and has not recovered even with More formats opened to them, More players, and More demand. WOTC said they won't print fetches into a standard set again but that I'm sure will change as more big events move to Arena (shuffling no longer an issue) but they will do better not to over support mana bases to repeat Khans standard of 4-5 color decks being all of standard. WOTC can't officially talk about the secondary market and we know that (agree or not this isn't the topic at hand). But they are obviously aware of it and make decisions based on it... that is the topic at hand. The secondary market is a real thing like it or not. Your LGS has to turn a profit and where they turn there profits are on re selling singles. Not from selling packs, why because as long as Target and Walmart can sell packs the LGS has to under cut there prices otherwise the majority of us would go to Target to get our packs and yes as much as Limited Resources tells us to not just crack packs we all do it from time to time (okay you who is about to comment an that point doesn't and your in the minority and you know it). The LGS if they were to sell packs only they would have less staff because less work for employees but also not enough money because the profit margins on packs is not much. If I remember right the LGS makes about $20 per box, so each box sold keeps one person employed for an hour (after overhead)… if that. Short of a sets release you don't see boxes flying off the shelfs. Events don't turn much profit as most the entry fee rolls right back into prize support so how does an LGS keep it's doors open and a good sized staff? Singles and in order for singles to be that to the LGS they must have a mark up and not be high rarity $2 USD cards that they paid $1.50. How many of those do they need to sell to just keep one person working at the store? And that doesn't take into account the time they were buying the cards for the store, sorting the cards, and the cards and employee just sitting there not making money.

In short a lot of people are mad that cards have a lot of value... well not value they cost a lot for them to get but money has to be made by people in order for this game to stay around and not just money for WOTC. Could WOTC do better. I'm sure they could but they have a lot to consider beyond just make the cards cheaper.

One last thing, in this same announcement that seems to be overlooked, the WOTC representative also did state fetchlands will be reprinted in a non standard set again this year. Based on that it will ether be Commander Legends or in commander decks. Both cases will be vary good and makes this reprint here a luxury item with in a luxury game much like the other secret lairs or the expeditions of previous sets.

March 16, 2020 10:53 a.m.

$200 USD feels steep but if we do the math for the MM3 we have: Scalding Tarn = $73, Misty Rainforest = $70, Verdant Catacombs = $66, Marsh Flats = $37, Arid Mesa = $34.

If at $200 each set that makes each card is $40. That makes really only one fetchland that is over priced but saves you $80 per box (if you were wanting all of them).

Now it is expensive but it still is a good deal per the value.

Do I wish the cards didn't have this high value? Yes because I would like to own them but the flip side is with out them having value there is less desire to own some cards. We all have the desire and excitement when we get an expensive card and it is a natural feeling. It's the exact reason many players crack packs. With out this value you don't sell as many packs and it also harms the LGS in singles where they make a majority of there money.

March 14, 2020 1:24 a.m.

With 3 cards using original art I suspect those 3 spells will be the only ones that already had Chandra's art in them and the others will be Chandra flavor spells with new flavor so no Lightning Bolt but maybe Pyrohemia.

March 13, 2020 4:36 p.m.

Samurott in Pauper EDH the commander restriction is changed removing the need for it to be legendary to reflect the rarity restrictions of the format.

March 13, 2020 4:33 p.m.

Said on Why is the ......

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I think it's due to the stories were not as well crafted and that the majority of players when asked if they like a plane the old ones are just unknown to the majority of players. It also doesn't help that many of the older sets like Fallen Empires and Homelands were just bad sets regardless of how good (or not good) the story was. Think if Ravnica had been designed poorly from a gameplay stand point, it would be much lower on the Rabiah scale.

March 12, 2020 10:34 a.m.

Giving white some form of card advantage that fits it's color identity won't break the color pie or unbalance White. Look at Red for example, it has just in the last 4ish years started to get card advantage and it has helped Red a lot and non of it has felt outside Red's color identity.

The question is how to give White card advantage and not break the color pie or over due it.

To not over due it that is easy, you start slow and add a card here and there (one per set/every other set) and make them not make them strong effects that risk breaking. I think as of now WOTC has been doing this with cards like Dawn of Hope in the last few years. They have also missed with Happily Ever After.

Now how to make the card advantage feel White? Well look at what White does already and lean into it more. Taxes are unpopular but cards like Smothering Tithe is a tax card that doesn't get hated on so this I think is one way to lean into it and give card advantage via taxes. You could like stated above even make it reward the rest of the table as White also plays on the fair play angle.

I do feel that Green gets way too much love for creatures; what I mean is Green gets cards like Beast Whisperer that rewards you for all your creature draw. I think this should have been a Green/White card and divide this ability into two separate abilities for Green and White where Green gets big creatures (Power/Toughness/CMC 4+) and White gets small creatures (Power/Toughness/CMC 2-) and both get limited at 3. This I do think still fits White as we have seen before with Mentor of the Meek and Bygone Bishop and doesn't make Green just better at creature draw. And yes make the player pay to get the card draw in White at least early on in design to make sure it's not just broken.

March 10, 2020 10:39 a.m.

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