Creature — Human Rogue
Whenever Glint-Sleeve Siphoner enters the battlefield or attacks, you get (an energy counter).
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may pay . If you do, you draw a card and you lose 1 life.
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Glint-Sleeve Siphoner Discussion
1 week ago
Fiery Temper and other madness effects don't work with Shadow of the Grave. If you read the reminder text, it says to "discard this card into exile" and then put it in your graveyard. Therefore it will not be returned by Shadow. Samut, Voice of Dissent also isn't very good in a deck like this, and removing it allows you to cut around 3 lands. That opens up 9 slots, meaning you can make this into a more refined aggro deck with cards like Pia Nalaar, Fatal Push, Heart of Kiran, Shock, Walking Ballista, Unlicensed Disintegration, Glint-Sleeve Siphoner and/or Harnessed Lightning. Other weaker, non-repeatable discard outlets like Heir of Falkenrath Flip can be good too if you want to increase the Honored Hydra count.
Sorry if it looks like I just listed a bunch of stuff, but I really like this deck idea, and I feel like it might be able to go somewhere if you reduce the Shadow of the Grave count and add better aggro cards, and rely on just the occasional t3 kill.
1 week ago
Personally I love the deck man great job thumbs up it seems consistent and actually has a good balance of spells to creature to enable dynavolt. I do however find that 4 Longtusk Cub seems like an unnecessary redundancy. doesn't having 4 end up with later cubs drawn into essentially 2 mana 2/2's more often then not? Wouldn't it be better to run 3 instead so you have good chance of getting one while not getting unnecessary extra copies late game? I think running an extra of another spell like Glint-Sleeve Siphoner would be a better trade considering it gets value later game just with it's etb and on attack as well rather then having to connect. plus if you are seeing wheenie decks Glint-Sleeve Siphoner will also get you a 2 for 1 if they don't want you to have it. Also I soticed half you're creatures are high investment like Glint-sleeve with card draw, longtusk cub and bristeling hydra with energy and counter's, have you thought of Blossoming Defense in the main deck or side board? I think it would be a good triple wammy as a dynavolt trigger, buff, as well as a protection for an easily 8/8 Longtusk Cub or a Glint-Sleeve Siphoner you might really need a draw from. Sorry for the long commit but I love the deck and it is actually something I am going to put together now. Great deck and I wish you many 4-0's in your future
2 weeks ago
Your list is cool and I can see has already made many improvements since the last time I saw it, here is some constructive feedback you may want to consider. For the most part I avoided recommending creatures because it appears you are going for a very limited creatures sub theme.
Planeswalkers you should consider cutting:
Ajani Unyielding (minus ability seems good, but it's really win more because you have very few creatures. This means it's only good if you already have a lot of planeswalkers on the battlefield. Plus ability isn't good because you have very few creatures and Atraxa already has lifelink and vigillance. I also don't like that it's a 4 drop because it shares the same CMC as Atraxa and you are more likely to want to play them on the same turn.)
Jace Beleren (Decent, but there are better card advantage engines. Double blue is also strict for a budget mana base, but this card is very good if you only minus and Atraxa is out).
Tamiyo, Field Researcher (plus ability is decent at discouraging attackers, but it is difficult to guarntee card advantage because you have so few creatures. I also don't like that it's a 4 drop because it shares the same CMC as Atraxa and you are more likely to want to play them on the same turn.)
Sorin, Solemn Visitor (plus ability hardly does anything because you have so few creatures and Atraxa already has lifelink. Minus ability isn't really worth the mana. I also don't like that it's a 4 drop because it shares the same CMC as Atraxa and you are more likely to want to play them on the same turn.)
Planeswalkers you are not running currently but should consider including:
Kiora, Master of the Depths (plus ability is ramp/mana fixing and has good synergy with mana dorks, minus ability is card advantage).
Tamiyo, the Moon Sage (very powerful plus ability, and with proliferation, she can ultimate quickly which is very powerful. Her minus ability can also generate a lot of cards against some match ups).
Karn Liberated (unconditional removal that you can repeat is a no brainer).
Your removal suite is good but the spells have too high of a converted mana cost on average. Higher converted mana cost is ok for spot removal, but if this is the case, the cards should be very verstaile (i.e. Sultai Charm)
Nonbudget Options:Abrupt Decay
Budget Options:Painful Truths
Glint-Sleeve Siphoner (I know you aren't trying to run a lot of creatures, but it's a solid option)
Non budget options:Phyrexian Arena
I recommend you review my list to get an idea of what a 4 color optimized mana base can look like, but there will be some slight differences because you are running superfriends. From your list recommend you consider to cut Gavony Township because it doesn't produced color mana and you don't run a ton of cretaures anyway (although you have some tokens from your planeswalkers).
Temple of the False God also doesn't make colored mana, and doesn't do anything early game. Ancient Tomb is much better, but I'm not even running that one. If you were to run a colorless land, I would recommend Ghost Quarter or Wasteland.
I understand that you can proliferate Dreadship Reef but I don't think it's good because you have to pay mana to add counters to it, this makes it slow. Mirrodin's Core seems much better. Gemstone Mine you should be running for sure.
Feel free to check out my Atraxa list. It's different than your list because it is control and isn't superfriends, but I would imagine we both can learn from each other's lists and I'd love to hear any feedback you have.
2 weeks ago
Possibly a combination of Lands and/or Glint-Sleeve Siphoners I'd say.
I'm a fan of Glint-Sleeve Siphoner myself, but it has been performing underwhelmingly everytime I've put it in a deck, because my opponents always are scared to let me draw cards, and it dies to everything.
Also with 22 lands and 4 Attune with Aether, you probably have a lot of land drops in a deck that's so 2-drop heavy. Attune does a lot for the deck in providing fixing and energy, so I wouldn't take out those, but you could consider lowering the land count a slight bit.
3 weeks ago
Hi vaperowned thanks for the upvote and for the tips :)
I do like Servant of the Conduits acceleration (i've used them in the previous versions of this deck) but in this version i wanted to have all quite small mana creatures (2-3 is the average casting cost..) except for gearhulks.. i don't know if i can continue to use them and accelerate gideons & gearhulks, but if i draw them only in late game... they will be dead cards. Anyway i know they are useful in the first turns, this week i can try use them (as 3 of maybe) in replace of something...
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet is a side card i've always wanted but never find for trades.. and highly priced.. i agree with you that if not answered can win on its own..
I agree with you also for the question between Nissa, Voice of Zendikar and Liliana, the Last Hope.. lily is there only because i own 2 copies and she has won some matches for me on its own... :D Never tried that Nissa, but i think she is strong only if you have at least constrictor and another creature and my meta is removal heavy... constrictor has no long life..! ..also she will be out with next standard rotation thats why i don't want to invest in her.. :)
I'm too a huge fan of Glint-Sleeve Siphoner and i always search to build decks that can fit him as a "standard confidant"!
...my sideboard change every time, i'm trying to adapt to my local meta, so i put in 1-2 copies of different cards to have always answers for the decks i see.. i know its not perfect.. in past i tried Distended Mindbender thanks to remember me.. maybe i can put in 2 copies in replace of Transgress the Minds (used only for shaeeli combo decks..)
3 weeks ago
I run a similar build to yours but more energy based.
I run Bristling Hydra and Longtusk Cub instead of Thalia and have more creatures (23).Since winding constrictor adds additional energy counters as well and if cub hits a player in 3rd turn with a Winding Constrictor up its nearly impossible to kill it afterwards or uses a hard removal for a 2cmc creature.
I personally believe Servant of the Conduit is an allstar in the deck especially with Walking Ballista's and Verdurous Gearhulk's, I run 4 of. With Servant it can come out on turn 4 as an 8/8 or 9/9 creature on it's own or distributes counters all around.
About Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet I run them in the sideboard and whenever I switch it in it gets removed.Kalitas is usually a threat that can win games on its own if it doesn't get removed the next turn and is always a priority target. I also run 3 Nissa, Voice of Zendikar which is a way better option than Liliana, the Last Hope in this case, if you want to stack counters. I know how strong Lily is, I run her in my Delirium deck but it seems out of place here.
Transgress the Mind or Harsh Scrutiny isn't good in my opinion since your deck has to be fast + you run a ton of removals.They can always top deck something better than what you discarded and for that it's better to have a removal.
My favourite card in these decks are Glint-Sleeve Siphoner's. Maybe try to run a Lifecrafter's Bestiary (instead of considering Live Fast or Painful Truths. Works wonders for me and it's harder to remove.
I like the mention of [c]Distended Mindbender[/c] though. I ran it in Delirium some time ago, not quite sure why I got rid of it.
+1 on the deck, with a little tweeking it can become quite a powerhouse for sure.
Sideboard needs a little work, I might get to that in the next comment.
3 weeks ago
Glint-Sleeve Siphoner states that whenever it enters play or attacks it gains an energy counter. If there are 2 or more of them however, do the gains counters independently of each other, or do they gain a counter for each Glint-Sleeve Siphoner in play at that time?
3 weeks ago
I appreciate the honest feedback! You're right in that this needs some sort of energy boost to make the "Dankest of Memes" useful.
And you're also right that Flaying Tendrils isn't useful enough by the time I would be playing it to be worth it.
Do you have suggestions for what to put in? There aren't too many good energy creating cards that are colorless or black that would work in this build. A couple I can think of are Live Fast and Glint-Sleeve Siphoner.
I'll make some edits and test it out a bit. Thanks again!