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Perilous Vault
Artifact
, , Exile Perilous Vault: Exile all nonland permanents.
GrimlockVIII on Simic Primal Surge Eldrazi. Help, please!
3 months ago
I can list some good pieces of removal in the form of permanents if you wish.
Amphin Mutineer straight-up exiles a creature on etb, and you can do it again through his encore effect once he hits the yard.
Kitesail Larcenist turns 3 artifacts/creatures into useless treasures (one for each opponent), and he can technically hit something of yours like a Fierce Empath or a Reclamation Sage after you're done with their etb effects but need a little extra mana to cast something big.
Amphibian Downpour is basically an instant speed Imprisoned in the Moon that can copy itself depending on how much you or an opponent storms off.
Sapphire Dragon's adventure half is a neat counterspell option in the early game, and you can cast him later as a seven mana dragon to still trigger Imoti later on. Same principle applies to Emerald Dragon, Stormkeld Vanguard, Sword Coast Serpent, and Horned Loch-Whale. Galvanic Giant is also kind of nuts since you're effectively locking down something your opponent controls every time you cast a big spell while also having the option to have a massive draw spell on the side should you need it.
The Phasing of Zhalfir is such a good blue "boardwipe", especially since you can choose to protect one or two of your creatures before the third chapter goes off, or you can immediately skip to the third chapter if you really need the boardwipe to happen the turn you cast it.
Bane of Progress is a good boardwipe against artifact/enchantment-centric decks.
Kenrith's Transformation is a lignify/imprisoned in the moon that replaces itself on etb.
There's of course removal in the form of colorless artifacts. You got Meteor Golem, Cityscape Leveler, Portal to Phyrexia (which also acts as reanimation), and boardwipes like Nevinyrral's Disk and Perilous Vault. If you can wait till your stuff is untapped then False Floor has the potential to be a one-sided wipe that also slows down opponents with hastier decks.
Otawara, Soaring City and Boseiju, Who Endures are interaction in the form of lands. They're also generally harder to counter given that you're activating them as abilities rather than casting their channel effects as spells.
There's also ways to force your opponents to block one of your big guys with all of their creatures so you can let through all of your other big guys through and also kill off some chump fodder in the process. Something like Taunting Arbormage or Shinen of Life's Roar come to mind.
That's all I got for now, but good luck upgrading your deck!
capwner on Your Sass Is Grass! (Sasaya Combo) *Primer*
11 months ago
Profet93 thanks for the comment and the +!! Yes I had seen Rude Awakening, it definitely does the stuff the deck is trying to do. However I think we only need one untapper 'spell' and I think Early Harvest is a little bit better. Definitely think the card could have a place in a more creature oriented build with Overwhelming Stampede type effects. I agree a little more redundancy on wincons could be good, my first choice would probably be Hurricane.
Beast Within is one of my all time favorite cards, love this freaking card. I also like Song of the Dryads for spot removal. These are in some of my other green decks for sure. This list is so tight that again I think we need to run the absolute best removal cards possible in the available slots, which IMO is Oblivion Stone, Perilous Vault, and Bane of Progress. And maaaaaaaybe World Breaker because the cast trigger gets around some stuff like Humility, but our artifact wipe kills that too. I also had Reclamation Sage for a while. I think removal on a creature is always better here because then we can toolbox for it.
Castle Garenbrig is an interesting one I hadn't really thought of. Kind of a backup plan if we're not able to get Sasaya online? I had Nyxbloom Ancient in the deck to serve a similar purpose but ended up cutting it because it died so easily and we were usually just dead anyways. Garenbrig is more resilient but less powerful. My initial thought is that it wouldn't be useful outside of some really niche situations so maybe would not be worth cutting another basic.
Thanks for checking out the deck and for the suggestions!! Definitely hit me with more if you think of any, or if you have any specific decks you think I should check out. I'm just getting back on tappedout after a pretty long hiatus so the amount of cool decks is kind of overwhelming. I always like seeing underrepresented commanders that can do something unique / have unique building criteria, especially mono colored, so please feel free to send me any lists like this or post them here :)
amarthaler on EDH Karn, Silver Golem
1 year ago
Update!
Out: Perilous Vault... Vanquisher's Banner
In: Moonsilver Key... Mystic Forge...
Profet93 on Altered Landscape (most fun EDH deck.. ever)
2 years ago
Perilous Vault - Oblivion stone redundancy. Could take up a fight card slot
Tarnoduds on AD&D - Artifacts, Dwarves and Dragons
3 years ago
KevinB Hey man! Thanks for coming and giving some insights! So, first of all, I must say I have thought about almost every card you've recommended (althought I didn't consider Conqueror's Galleon Flip and Trading Post ).
Here comes the long post:
For the dwarves, I have all those "useless" 1 CMC dudes just to make sure I can start generating treasures as fast as possible (Still hoping the D&D set will bring a few more red dwarves for that) and right now, I dont think I can take away any of those for the 2 CMC you've mentioned. On other hand, the flex spot I have available would be the 7x spots for the Seven Dwarves , and I cant take out just 1 or 2... Either I play with 7 of'em or with none, right? So basically these dudes dont make the cut simply because they have the wrong CMC or a worst abillity from what I have right now, but if we get 4-5 decent dwarves on 1 and 2 CMC on the near future, I can see myself switching the seven dwarves for those guys.
As for Brass Herald , I think Obelisk of Urd does a better job being a possible combat trick (if I pull it with Magda's abillity after attacking the +2/+2 could make a difference), as well as being a little harder to remove, not being a creature. Considering all the other anthem effects I have available, they all seem to give me a better deal than a 6 mana 2/2 that maybe draws cards. But who knows, there're a few golems in this deck, and Coat of Arms could make it interesting should I start using more golems in the future.
The thing with Nevinyrral's Disk and Perilous Vault is that both of'em ALSO removes my own artifacts with the removal. Normally, what I'm sensing is that if I have my board cleared or even if I find myself needing to clear the board, if I still have my artifacts on board (things like The Immortal Sun or Caged Sun ), there's still a chance to come back to the game. But sure, a board wipe that can be instantly tutored could prove to be useful. Maybe I'll test switching a disk for Star of Extinction , although maybe the vault could be better.
Lastly, Conqueror's Galleon Flip and Trading Post are quite interesting suggestions. I can see myself switching the galleon for Solemn Simulacrum (not exactly good news for Brass Herald 's case, lol) since it also ramps and draws, as well as being a tap-enabler for my dwarves (the high crew cost sucks a little bit, though). But I'm Not sure what to take away for the post... It's value, for sure, but I'm not sure if it's more eficient than what I have right now in this deck (mana cost and resource-wise). What do you think on this matter?
MrKillStar on Angels Brought The Apocalypse
4 years ago
I really like Angel themed decks, but the only problem is, most angels are just super expensive and looking at your deck list, there is just no ramp, except very few cards... Im just gonna type some cards, maybe you'll like some, most likely not all of them, just so you have some larger pool of cards to choose from. :)
Myriad Landscape/Burnished Hart is alright; Land Tax is just auto-include in most decks; Caged Sun is also good, but you need to ramp into it somehow; Sword of the Animist is ok, but you need to swing with a creature and there are no Haste enablers (not even Lightning Greaves.
First of all, I would cut exile board wipes, since it just hurts mono-white without ramp the most (Play of the Game and Perilous Vault). You could hold priority and cast Teferi's Protection, but.. dont really know about that... :D
Sunscour should have really good place in mono-white deck.
Endless Horizons - is something like budget of Land Tax, but can also help to thin your deck after you get enough mana on board.
Planar Bridge,Planar Portal,Thran Temporal Gateway,Belbe's Portal,Cryptic Gateway - to either search for anything or put big stuff directly on board. Urza's Incubator should be there to reduce mana cost of your big angels.
worldslayer -> protect your creatures and artifacts: Show
Card draw in white isnt the best, so using artifacts is really helpful, both for ramp and card draw: Show
Some mana rocks for sure: Show
Some ramp with white creatures and spells: Show
RNR_Gaming on "Bring Me The Door To Nothingness" -Ramos
4 years ago
To indicate what your commander is put CMDR in "*"s on each side - it'll better enable the community give you suggestions and help you out. With this type of strategy you're going to want some recursion. Academy Ruins and Buried Ruin both offer this. Whir of Invention would fit really well in this deck; maybe also consider Oblivion Stone and Perilous Vault as outs to hyper aggressive decks. some more additional tutors like Demonic Tutor, Imperial Seal, and Vampiric Tutor will bolster your consistency but sort of break the bank too. Lastly, Smothering Tithe can help you out with that huge color requirement.
i0nix1 on Nekusar
4 years ago
- Gem of Becoming >> Geth's Grimoire
- Launch Party >> Molten Psyche
- Perilous Vault >> Sol Ring
- Nivix, Aerie of the Firemind >> Command Tower
- Iron Myr >> Damnable Pact
- Lightning Bolt? >> Dragon Mage
- Concentrate? >> Magus of the Wheel
- Sign in Blood? >> Perplex
- Seizan, Perverter of Truth, Jace Beleren, The Locust God
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