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Legendary Creature — Elder Dragon
This has hexproof as long as this is untapped.
Whenever this deals combat damage to a player, look at the top three cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
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5 months ago
Absolutely LOVE it... I have a Jeskai variant and some tools I use that I really like are Mission Briefing to be used as as a Snapcaster Mage value effect and Consider along side it... because im in I use Dragonlord Ojutai for my finisher but I think Iymrith, Desert Doom could be really good to maybe split with your Dragonlord Silumgar.
Overall i really love the bones of this build... i wish you success and happy brewing!
7 months ago
@GofyTomcat1 yup it's a personal piece of tech in using for its versatility. The 4 damage can just be used to close out a game or hit a planswalker... im really leaning hard on burn spells to function as either removal or to be a clock to win....the double strike is meant to synergize with Dragonlord Ojutai or Snapcaster Mage... indestructible applies to permanents so it might help stave off certain removal the opponent is using.
All and all with the decklist I'm running I think I like it... but admittedly this build is a little but janky due to my budget and lack of big/little teferi or JTMS and modern horizons 1-2 support but I'm doing my best to make it work.
1 year ago
Buckle up, this will be lengthy....Some important things I always consider when choosing a voltron commander:
1) Does my commander have built in evasion or protection. These are crucial because they require less investment into auras/equipment that protect/grant evasion to your commander, freeing up slots for other cards
2) How hard is it for my commander to reach the holy "power of 7". Ideally you want your commander to reach 7 or more power so you need fewer hits to kill an opponent. Why 7 you ask? Because there is a near step-function difference in success between 4 attacks to kill someone and 3 attacks to kill someone (in my experience).
3) Equipment/aura synergies. Some commanders have built in synergies that make them more ideal for either equipment or aura strategies.
4) Casting cost. If your commander dies, and it will, likely multiple times, can you recast them easily?
4.5) Haste. I put this one as part of #4 because if I am playing a high cmc voltron commander, they better have haste so I can immediately try to kill someone.
With those ideas in mind, here are some voltron options that I like:
Dragonlord Ojutai, my personal commander. Has built in evasion, protection, and card advantage. Moderate CMC and hits like a truck (5 starting power)
Bruna, Light of Alabaster, one of the top aura commanders out there. Has built in evasion, but her high cmc and no native protection makes her a lighting rod for removal. If you can have her survive until she attacks, it's basically game over.
Aurelia, the Warleader, arguably one of the strongest voltron commanders out there. Has built in haste and evasion. Her extra combat ability makes here very deadly and can kill someone out of nowhere. Her high cmc makes her a little more of a challenge to pilot though. Goes infinite with Helm of the Host.
Akiri, Fearless Voyager, another top voltron commander. She has built in protection and card advantage in Boros which is a major plus. She has low cmc, but is pretty small and has no evasion meaning she needs extra help to kill someone.
Akiri, Line-Slinger + anyone (blue is nice for protection): Hands down the strongest "fair" voltron commander out there. Costs a low, low 2 mana, has first strike making her a headache to block, and her passive pump ability makes her able to kill at least one person before they are even set up.
Bruenor Battlehammer: Kind of an overlooked one from AFR, but this guy slaps. He has moderate cmc, can freely equip one equipment per turn, and has the Akiri pump ability. No evasion though.
Kediss, Emberclaw Familiar + Sengir, the Dark Baron: I don't actually think this one is very good. I just think the chance to oneshot the entire table with these two is hilarious (something I was able to do in the Commander Legends draft format).
Zurgo Helmsmasher: Has haste, built in protection, and already starts at 7 power. No built in evasion, but he can grow in size all on his own. His color wedge is also great for tutoring, removal, and protection.
Galea, Kindler of Hope: Haven't had much experience with this new one, but her free aura attach ability, moderate cmc, and card advantage by playing auras off the top of your library seems pretty strong.
Ardenn, Intrepid Archeologist + anyone (I like Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh or Akiri, Line-Slinger): This guy isn't really going to be killing anyone himself, but his ability will save you a ton of mana on equip costs which allows you to keep up mana for interaction or protection.
Thrun, the Last Troll: Mono green isn't as strong as white for equipment, but it can do aura's surprisingly well. Being uncounterable, having OG hexproof, and being able to regenerate himself makes Thrun very tough to kill.
Godo, Bandit Warlord: I have to mention this one since he is the only true cEDH voltron commander.
1 year ago
Hey, nice version, solid deck building on a budget. Looks like you got the Draconic Rage Commander precon and upgraded it to Tiamat?
Some budget Dragon upgrades to consider:
- Hellkite Charger --> Hoard-Smelter Dragon or Embercleave which is closer price.
- Silumgar, the Drifting Death --> Demanding Dragon
- Teneb, the Harvester --> Velomachus Lorehold
- Bladewing the Risen --> Dragon Turtle
- Dragonlord Ojutai --> Skyship Stalker or Galazeth Prismari which is closer price.
Savage Ventmaw + Hellkite Charger is a budget way with Dragons to have many extra attacks. When each of these Dragons attacks both trigger at the same time and you can choose the order these triggers resolve. First resolve Ventmaw to make six mana then resolve Charger and use the six mana + one other mana to pay for an extra attack and repeat. These two let you have a number of extra attacks equal to the amount of mana you have which can be a lot of attacks. Add Dragonborn Champion to draw a lot of cards.
Some budget other spell upgrades to consider:
- Crux of Fate --> Shatterskull Smashing
- Temur Ascendancy --> Colossal Majesty
- Patriarch's Bidding --> Bag of Tricks
- Court of Bounty --> Fires of Invention
- Seasons Past --> Turntimber Symbiosis
- Faeburrow Elder --> Tempting Contract
Crux of Fate is a very powerful for Dragons in multiplayer Commander since it can wreck all your opponents creatures leaving you unscathed to attack. Temur Ascendancy has two repeatable effects that are great with Dragons: a haste enabler and repeatable draw whenever a Dragon ETB. Patriarch's Bidding is a powerful budget tribal card since it reanimates all Dragons in your graveyard for five mana. Seasons Past is any card recursion which you don't have any. Use Seasons Past with Klauth, Unrivaled Ancient to potentially cast all the cards you got back.
Some other upgrades to consider:
- Tyrite Sanctum --> Temple of the False God
Tyrite Sanctum can be a repeatable way to put a +1/+1 counter on a legendary creature you control. Use Tyrite with Vrondiss, Rage of Ancients to first make him a God and then make him indestructible for unlimited enrage.
Good luck with your deck.
1 year ago
Hey, nice version of Ur-Dragon, but this is not aggro, it's midrange. That's fine because you don't really want aggro in multiplayer Commander since it doesn't do enough when you have three or more opponents who each start with 40 life.
Four mana even with Ur-Dragon cost reduction for Dragons is the average amount of mana you'll spend to cast your first spell which is high. You also really want a ramp mana source in your opening hand and 10 ramp sources is not enough to consistently have one. You have lots of powerful tutors here as well as Tiamat which means you could reduce the Dragons to the best ones and cut the subpar ones which will speed up gameplay. Old Gnawbone + Hellkite Charger is a Dragon win condition combo for infinite attacks.
The better Dragons:
- Old Gnawbone
- Hellkite Charger
- Hellkite Tyrant
- Hellkite Courser
- Utvara Hellkite
- Terror of the Peaks
- Klauth, Unrivaled Ancient
- Dragonlord Ojutai
- Iymrith, Desert Doom
- Goldspan Dragon
- Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
- Morophon, the Boundless
- Scalelord Reckoner
In the place of other Dragons because of the high budget consider adding more lower CMC support cards?
- Esper Sentinel
- Selvala, Heart of the Wilds
- Birds of Paradise
- Mystic Remora
- Rhystic Study
- Ignoble Hierarch
- Faeburrow Elder
- Dryad of the Ilysian Grove
- Defense of the Heart
- Fellwar Stone
Good luck with your deck.
1 year ago
Maybe Tiamat isn't a good choice to include if have more dragons to switch, but still a good dragon with such a nice pressure. Surely, Old Gnawbone and Inferno of the Star Mounts will be a mandatory choice to deck. Maybe Ebondeath, Dracolich will be include by it's recursivity. Iymrith, Desert Doom is a Dragonlord Ojutai less powerfull, and I don't believe that Icingdeath, Frost Tyrant will be played at all. Oh, I've forgoten Klauth, Unrivaled Ancient . This dragon will bring a lot of value when played with The Ur-Dragon deck. The lesser dragons will excluded for sure. That's was my thoughts about the new dragons, but certanly we will have more creatures or spells to consider.
1 year ago
Danwinzz2 a difficult question but one I should answer before actually buying the card. Rationally speaking there are several candidates. I feel like the prime candidates would be Dragonlord Ojutai , Dragonlord Kolaghan and Dromoka, the Eternal . However, for my personal deck, I'm committed to playing all 10 dragon legends of Tarkir, so my choice would be very different. First one to go is definitely Golos, Tireless Pilgrim . I hear it, it's a great card, mana sink and ramp. But considering the commander, turn 5 is precisely the turn when you should be playing a dragon (6 drop thanks to Eminence, more thanks to ramp). The ramp is nice and we're always looking for more in this deck but the reason you should play Golos, Tireless Pilgrim is for the ability. But the very few times it managed to stay on the battlefield, I just found myself not using it because I'd rather cast something from my hand. Overall, I'm just not a fan of Golos, Tireless Pilgrim in my particular version of the deck. There goes the spot for Scion of Draco . For Tiamat , I'm thinking Gadrak, the Crown-Scourge or Hellkite Tyrant . I played Gadrak, the Crown-Scourge for the sole reason that it offers a turn 2 dragon defender (still playtesting it). Honestly, I just like the design, I think it's a fun little card, but of course the ceiling is quite low. Hellkite Tyrant on the other hand offers quite a higher ceiling. However, on all the games I've played, I never took more than 2 artifacts, mana rock at that, which this late in the game made no difference. I'm sure it must feel incredible to play it against an artifact deck but I don't have one in my meta and having one card being a silver bullet to a specific strategy in commander isn't how I want to play it. The more I think about it the more cutting Eladamri's Call for Tiamat makes some sense. I keep instants low because I don't want to leave a mana source untapped with this deck. It made for a good tutor but the only non-dragon creatures I'd ever want to tutor would be Xenagos, God of Revels and Sylvia Brightspear . Tiamat wouldn't be able to fetch Xenagos, God of Revels but it would serve the tutoring purpose better.
1 year ago
Hi, cool deck :) I would be interested in your experience with Dream Trawler and Dragonlord Ojutai . Are they worth their high mana cost? I'd also be interested in how Jubilant Skybonder performs for you.