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If you go that route I would cut 3 lands total and add 3 rocks to replace them. Fellwar stone is a lock. I would also play chrome mox and possibly mox diamond or grim monolith. Mox opal is solid but you need alot of cheap artifacts to get the most out of it. You have tons of artifacts but not as many cheap ones as I prefer
March 21, 2017 3:19 p.m.
Lilbrudder: I can't afford Grim Monolith or Mox Diamond I'm afraid - this Mox Opal is a very specific and advantageous trade. I probably should put in Fellwar Stone, but I'm worried that too few of my opponents will be playing W and/or R. I'm also not very willing to go below 35 lands in a deck with a 5C commander. So I'm somewhat torn...
March 21, 2017 3:47 p.m.
Honestly it wouldn't hurt to run things like Chromatic Lantern despite only being two-colour. Outside of that, Opal can be online a reasonable amount of time if you focused on other mana rocks or any other artifact you'd have on board.
Lilbrudder's definitely right though, the consistency factor will drastically improve should you choose to run the 0-drops as well because boom! T1 you've a land, diamond/opal and crypt where someone else plays that aggressive T1 BOP.
March 21, 2017 3:56 p.m.
n0bunga: Currently I have Mana Crypt in there, so that helps. I don't like Chrome Mox in this deck even though I own one (the card disadvantage hurts too much, and the deck is too colorless), and I can't afford Mox Diamond.
March 21, 2017 3:59 p.m.
Oh you have a budget! How about Mana Crypt (edit nvm you have a foil version) and Imperial Recruiter ermm wait...I'm not very good at this. I am obviously all about going fast and pushing things to the limits but I will never go above 32 lands for any commander ever again except maybe for asusa, angry omnath, or turbofroggy. Rocks will always get you there faster. Unfortunately your colors are horrendous for good rocks I will think on this. Mind Stone? Coldsteel Heart? How about you sell your foil copies for regular versions of the cards then buy grim monolith and mox diamond. Blasphemy?
March 21, 2017 4:04 p.m.
Yeah Chrome Mox does come at a cost, I guess I always look at it from situation to situation. I was also primed to being "okay" with exiling things for FC combos and cards that make you exile three from your library.
I'm fairly certain I've imprinted removal spells that I didn't need at the time just to make use of the colours they're housed in for Chrome Mox.
March 21, 2017 4:07 p.m.
Lilbrudder: I do have a budget, astonishingly: it's why I also don't have a Plateau in the deck. The foiling has occurred very slowly and over time, and some of the most expensive cards have been gifts. In answer, yes, it's a Blasphemous Act to sell my foils XD
I do need to pick up a Plateau and a Mox Diamond for this deck. But given that I don't have them and I DO have a Mox Opal (the masterpiece no less), is it playable with a total of 27 artifacts (my current set, plus 3 artifact lands and the Mox)? Given that most of those artifacts are CMC 2 or less...
March 21, 2017 4:11 p.m.
LOL I was in the foil business with
Commander / EDH
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but I eventually couldn't keep up, and sold em all for non-foil versions, which then gave me access to financing Book Promo mana crypts.
March 21, 2017 4:17 p.m.
I can't wait to see the Legendaries teased so I can think of possible EDH brews!
March 24, 2017 5:30 p.m.
n0bunga: I know, right?? Hopefully, between the people in this group, we'll manage to build all of the commanders in the upcoming set.
March 24, 2017 6:35 p.m.
Yeah without all the expensive mana positive rocks its like that. Its definitely worth a spot either way. Im curious why no Masterwork of Ingenuity. Double Skullclamp, Sword of Fire and Ice, or Batterskull is flat out ridiculous.
March 24, 2017 8:20 p.m.
Hell yes. If they bring back the god mechanic again like in theros, I'll probably build one of each here on T/O. I'll probably only build one in paper though.
March 24, 2017 10:19 p.m.
Lilbrudder: I had it in there originally, but I eventually got sick of having it in hand with no good targets. It's amazing to copy a Sword, but less so to copy a Basilisk Collar, et cetera. I find that double strike often has the same effect with less variability.
March 24, 2017 11:21 p.m.
I'm having to fight the urge to make a new commander deck, since the new set will give me new awesome commanders... #FirstWorldProblems
So shall we commit that between us, in this group, we'll build all the legendaries in this set? :)
March 25, 2017 7:11 p.m.
I already committed to building Sobek no matter who it is cause the crocodile-headed god is my favorite in mythology.
March 25, 2017 8:23 p.m.
What's this? What's this?
There's colors everywhere
There's deck lists in the air
I can't believe my eyes
I must be dreaming
Wake up, me, this isn't fair
Apologies if I'm crashing the party but this is one of the coolest ideas I've seen. And after inspecting the description and archive, I'm led to believe that I may not be as skilled a deck creator as I hyped myself to be, or perhaps portrayed an undesirable personality to be included. Either way, found this little gem, here's a for the coolness that this is and I'll be on my way. Happy building.
March 25, 2017 9:14 p.m.
Eiti3: I definitely wouldn't be opposed if you wanted to join! I was the one who compiled the initial list of members, and we haven't worked very much together so I was unaware of your content on this site, sorry.
Still, though, we'd always welcome more people!
Anyone else opposed, or should I add him? :)
March 25, 2017 10:13 p.m.
omg this guy built the Samurai Jack deck! One of my favorites on TO My vote is add him!
March 25, 2017 10:38 p.m.
Eiti3: The vote is in - welcome to the Deckwatch! :) I look forward to collaborating with you (and you're just in time for spoiler season)!
When you have a few moments, write up a quick bio and choose a creature card that represents you like an avatar. No rush ;)
March 26, 2017 12:21 p.m.
I finally got around to updating the "Decks we've worked on together" tab - did I miss anything? :)
March 26, 2017 12:49 p.m.
Well that was a disappointing first day of official spoilers. We didn't even get to see any legendary creatures :(
March 27, 2017 11:23 a.m.
I'm gonna post a Riku list on here soon. I'll be asking for help cutting like 100 cards, if anyone wants to assist me.
March 27, 2017 11:41 a.m.
Go ahead and look at it already if you want. I still need to get more cards in here(as my list is at home), so it's not the final card pool, but I guess you can tell me what is terribad? (Looking to do a token/value deck here, with some fun)
Commander / EDH*
March 27, 2017 1:54 p.m.
Also, y u no Palinchron? You get lots of palinchron tokens with Riku.
March 27, 2017 4:57 p.m.
1: Battle of Wits doesn't work, i'm trying to cut down to 100. if this was a joke, i'm not in the mood for that atm.
2: Palinchron is a good suggestion, but can you put anything else about this deck on the actual deck page please?
Thanks for giving feedback! enpc
March 27, 2017 5 p.m.
Yeah, that was a joke. Sorry if it went down the wrong way.
While I can leave some comments on the deck page specifically, I would also make the observation that with that many cards, you're probably better off just purging the list and then starting from scratch. I think on the whole its going to be a much less painful process and you'll get the list down to ~120ish cards a,lot more quickly. At that point making cuts will be much easier.
March 27, 2017 5:06 p.m.
Yeah 256 cards is a bit ridiculous tbh as a starting point. There is no possible way we can help you cut 156 cards. Maybe try the 88 deckbuilding method. Pick 8 effects you want and 8 cards for each effect. Then refine from there.
March 27, 2017 6:05 p.m.
March 27, 2017 6:11 p.m.
Alright, I'l try that approach, if not that exact method. Thanks Lilbrudder
March 27, 2017 6:12 p.m.
Your welcome :-) I've always found it easier to start from a shell of cards I really like then fill the rest in with cards that support the general strategy than to do the opposite
March 27, 2017 6:14 p.m.
AwezomePozzum: I listed all of the creatures, instants, and sorceries I'd cut. (Ow, my fingers really hurt now.)
And Eiti3, I agree. Oracle's Vault is bonkers...but I don't find it to be a particularly elegant card design. I wish it used the brick counters for something other than a "gatekeeping" method...
March 27, 2017 6:34 p.m.
Sixth sense is a neat effect. I think it has potential in some edh decks. The fact that you can enchant opponents creatures makes it much stronger
March 27, 2017 6:37 p.m.
I'm going to post this here see what you guys think/want to do. Tribal is classic but I'm looking for ways to play these bloodsuckers with some resiliency.
March 27, 2017 7:18 p.m.
March 27, 2017 7:29 p.m.
Also just noticed Jackal is a new creature type. Is it weird that I'm hoping for some sort of tribal?
Tattered Mummy Show
And I personally think Sixth Sense should've been triggered when attacking, rather than damage. That sort of spidey sense to give insight to what is about to come instead of realization after the fact. Feels weird to me.
March 27, 2017 7:35 p.m.
March 27, 2017 7:40 p.m.
Eiti3: I'm so happy that Jackal is finally a creature type. My inner furry is pleased. There better be a legendary jackal in this set...
Casey4321: Is it too much to ask for flavor AND function? :(
March 27, 2017 7:51 p.m.
Friends! Romans! Deckwatchers! I need some help.
I want to rebuild Rashmi, Eternities Crafter, but although my previous build was strong it was never fun. Can any of you think of an unusual and fun way to build her, while still being able to keep up as the control deck at a competitive table?
I'm shying away from combos with her (though of course I know that's the strongest way to build her). Maybe some kind of tempo/resource deck that steals opponents' win-cons to claim victory?
March 27, 2017 8:26 p.m.
Daedalus19876 - Crazy idea, but that's just me, but why not a control Rashmi, Eternities Crafter with Timesifter and a Ugin's Nexus, bouncing the nexus with spells like Karn, Silver Golem + Vanish into Memory for when you want to take extra turns? I would build the deck about stacking the top of your deck while controlling others. I honestly don't know how reliable that is, but it is definitely a new take on her control theme. I would find it hilarious pulling those combos off - hell, even watching them get pulled off.
March 27, 2017 8:35 p.m.
Eiti3: That could be interesting! I'll look into it, and tag you when I have a preliminary decklist!
March 27, 2017 8:37 p.m.
Daedalus19876! YOU WAIT UNTIL SOME LEGENDARIES ARE SPOILED. BAD! (Swats you on the nose with a rolled up newspaper).%
March 27, 2017 8:54 p.m.
Lilbrudder: You're completely right, of course, and I am a lowly worm cowers
But I have such a shiny foil copy of Rashmi, Eternities Crafter :(
March 27, 2017 9:20 p.m.
Lol you could probably sell it for a nice profit ;-)
March 27, 2017 9:26 p.m.
Commander / EDH
Trying to put back together a Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer deck!
March 28, 2017 3:45 a.m.
Lilbrudder noticed your leovold isn't showing up on the Tier list anymore..you workin on it?
March 28, 2017 9:50 a.m.
n0bunga: Ah thats wierd. No I have not touched the list in a while. I am at the point where getting my decks featured on that list is not really a priority anymore. I got a T/O ranking of 10 overall at one point and to get any higher would likely require a ridiculous amount of devotion to that cause. I am actually in the process of giving my slots to more deserving deckbuilders who are keeping an active list. I should pass on my Leo list but the issue is that the ideal build for Leo doesn't exist given his versatility or has not been found yet. As of late I have been doing nothing but Thrasios.
March 28, 2017 11:47 a.m.
Love-in-Theory: Ooh, now that looks right up my alley! I'll take a look when I have a chance.
March 28, 2017 12:06 p.m.
Commander / EDH*
I cut 2/3 of the cards, this should be easier to work with. Anyone still interested?
So what gods are open for building for amonkhet? someone's already building the Sobek clone to my knowledge, and I want to know what everyone else seems interested in.
I'm probably going to do the Thoth, Anubis, and/or Bast decks. All on T/O though, all my expendable income is going toward my Riku deck.
March 28, 2017 1:32 p.m.
AwezomePozzum: Obviously it depends heavily on the abilities, but I hope to build the Anubis and/or Thoth gods. Anubis because I'm a furry and it pleases me, and the Thoth one because the art is gorgeous. We'll have to see how it turns out.
But honestly I just. want. to. see. legendary. cards. spoiled.
March 28, 2017 1:35 p.m.
Same. My favorite part of a mtg spoiler season is seeing all my friends hype about a new legendary creature(or in the case of Ulrich of the Krallenhorde Flip, cringe). It makes me so energized to have the opportunity to build with an entirely new focus.
I wholeheartedly agree with the furry comment, but I also want to build anubis because I've been wanting a graveyard deck for quite a while.
In all candor, I want to build all the gods, but it's just most likely that I'd build one of the three I already listed.
March 28, 2017 1:39 p.m.
I'm hyped for crocodile headed goodness lol I'm hoping he's a war god. I like smash strategies.
March 28, 2017 2:08 p.m.
Update: Amonkhet "Masterpieces" (called "Invocations") will begin to be spoiled in 3.5 hours from the time of this post! The hype is real...
March 28, 2017 2:28 p.m.
I don't know whether to hate them for how "eh" they look, or love them for their creativity. I mean, even the Masterpieces kept a bit of the black border at the bottom.
But all the Invocations really reminded me of was Show
March 28, 2017 7:17 p.m.
I guess I get it but like...Eh? I means I kinda like the style but like at the same time I'm with Eiti3 on this one lol
March 28, 2017 7:36 p.m.
AwezomePozzum: The deck wont run smooth with clunky curve. Cut from the top of the cc tree. Trim all but the most essential bombs and build around those bombs. No more than 5 would be ideal for a fun casual deck.
5 bombs rest pure Riku valuetown
March 28, 2017 11:08 p.m.
Lilbrudder Ahhhh gotcha! I'm in the midst of making one myself while I wait for any new legendaries.
And yeah, regarding the Invocations:- Sweet name for them- Great flavour- Just not digging the designs
Maybe they'll unban gold-bordered cards from tournaments now though? :P
March 28, 2017 11:30 p.m.
They totally should make gold bordered legal. I want this for purely selfish reasons
March 28, 2017 11:45 p.m.
Economics would probably get in the way. It would make a handful of people super rich
March 28, 2017 11:46 p.m.
I ask first and usually no one has a problem. I have gold border survival of the fittest and Patriarch's bidding.
March 28, 2017 11:47 p.m.
March 28, 2017 11:56 p.m.
I feel much the same about the Invocations. Cool cards. Good art overall. Awful, horrible frames.
There are still one or two I might try and pick up if they're relatively cheap.
March 29, 2017 12:05 a.m.
The invocations are hideous. Highly disappointed, WoTC
March 29, 2017 12:54 a.m.
I have to say I actually kind of like them. I think that bar was set really high with the Kaladesh Inventions, but I'm actually happy to see WotC trying something a bit more bold and different. While I think there's something left to be desired on some of the elements, overall I'd say good on them. you don't gain anything unless your risk something. And even if the resik doesn't pan out, you learn.
March 29, 2017 2:06 a.m.
Commander / EDH
Just whipped this up.
March 29, 2017 7 a.m.
And on the subject of the Invocations, I think I've identified what annoys me about them: the title font, and those damn little black squares on either side of the main text. I might pick up Mind Twist, Entomb, Diabolic Intent, and Vindicate, though.
How do you think the pricing for the Invocations will compare to that of the Masterpieces and the Expeditions?
March 29, 2017 2:01 p.m.
I feel like they may be all over the place. Ones with constant reprints will probably get that "low" tier pricing like the 20-40 range (Canadian, sorry folks).
Force of Will is something I wonder about. I haven't seen too many people prefer the Invocation over Alliances or Eternal Masters; I wonder how much more the Invocation will be. We know how insane a foil EMA Force is.
March 29, 2017 2:43 p.m.
If we don't get any interesting commanders in this set, I may build Alesha, Who Smiles at Death in the near future. If I do, I'll be putting at least 4 of the Invocations in the list.
(I'll also build it based on n0bunga's list - it seems really cool.)
March 29, 2017 2:59 p.m.
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