Lilbrudder Deckling

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IronBlackZepp says... #1

Come to think of it faithless looting might be better then deep analysis in some situations.

April 28, 2017 5:07 p.m.

IronBlackZepp says... #2

Hey I wanted to run this combo by you that I think might be the equivalent of the Angel of glories rise combo for sans red hermit druid decks. Not sure if anyone is doing it or not but I wanted to see if you think it is viable.

Activate hermit druid. Flashback Necrotic ooze with dread return, use moarselhoarder and devoted druid for Infinite mana. Flashback memories journey to put two creatures on top of library. Lab man and another creature like eternal witness. Flashback deep analysis drawing the cards. Play lab man for free. Play eternal witness to get a card like ponder. Win.

April 28, 2017 4:52 p.m.

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Said on Hulk Hulk Baby...

#1

What is the Body Double line? Also aside from Tazri, which has the whole food chain thing, Alara is the second strongest (in terms of raw power) commander and strongest for this deck by a fair margin. Its ability to planar cleansing once every 10 games can be quite strong in a meta where almost everyone goes light on lands and relies upon nonland permanents to seal the deal. This deck can win for 2 mana so it can GG in some truly horrid board states. It can fight through pretty much anything As such, Alara baby is the preferred general for this deck.

April 28, 2017 11:37 p.m.

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#2

Remind me the of the deck you tagged me in. I have been a bit preoccupied with life and Hulk.

April 28, 2017 10:32 p.m.

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#3

I agree. There is a HD into nooze finisher that uses labman. It is a bit involved but goes well with the nooze+Hermit Druid merger.

Once you dread return, you blighted bat to give baby jace haste, tap to draw a card then untap with devoted druid and then sac nooze with apprentice necromancer to put labman in play and then when labman enters play baby jace's ability will resolve and you win. It uses many great creatures for the strategy and just costs you one combo only card in BB.

April 28, 2017 10:31 p.m.

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#4

Deep anal is terrible though and memory's journey is best as a backup card. I would cut the BS labman jank and just use walking ballista, which will win with nooze the second you go infinite.

April 28, 2017 8:16 p.m.

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#5

That should work just fine :-) what is cool is that your finisher forms a perfect buried alive+reanimate pile.

April 28, 2017 8:11 p.m.

Seriously though look at that color wheel! Colors in perfect harmony

April 28, 2017 7:45 p.m.


Baby Hulk

Commander / EDH* Lilbrudder

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Let the ass pounding begin!

April 28, 2017 7:38 p.m.

I dont think Edric is close to tier 1 and I have my doubts about Azami being tier 1.5. There have been a large number of decks that passed them with recent printings and hulk being unbanned. The mimeoplasm and Sidisi Brood Tyrant got MUCH better. Anafesa the foremost is now viable with the graveyard being abused, and child of Alara finally has a deck that the baby is best suited for (among the pile of trash that is 5 color generals). Speaking of the angry baby here is working model of the deck. It should replace my horrible alara baby brew with the broken link.

April 28, 2017 7:08 p.m.

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JaysonSunshine: Hey man! Yeah its still a work in progress, but this will definitely be one of my strongest decks once I refine it. It has so many lines to victory and it can make so many other decks miserable without shutting down my gameplan. Any thoughts on improvements?

April 27, 2017 5:39 p.m.

So the kiki jiki pile is Karmic Guide+Viscera Seer reanimate and sac hulk grab kiki, copy guide, sac hulk, get village bell ringer gg. It only works in 4 or 5 color lists, but it is probably the best overall hulk pile since that same exact pile forms a perfect buried alive+reanimate pile and also does kiki combo and splinter twin combo easily. It even does easy revillark loops. That will be the combo deck I am building next. I will make alara baby tier 1

April 26, 2017 7:35 p.m.

Deadeye navigator is not even good tho. I get that hes hard to remove and it can go infinite but hes is a 6 drop creature that does nothing on his own. I know people hate him, so by all means ban him but hes not even playable competitively. I think sylvan is far more oppressive tbh.

April 26, 2017 8:33 a.m.

enpc: Thanks bud! I totally agree. They banned something that is roughly half as powerful as the thing they unbanned. I guess the whole table losing on turn 1-3 to a 2 mana instant speed combo is a more ideal game state than losing your hand. On turn 3-4 at sorcery speed after a combo piece has sat in play exposed for a full turn cycle...This feels like wishful thinking. Do they honestly believe noone is going to put a flash hulk package in their "casual" deck? Because you know noone paired Leo with a puzzle box or wheel...I mean people never play cards in the most obviously powerful and brain dead easy way ever...It is the funniest thing I have seen in a while and has given me plenty of things to brew in my antideckwatch...ahem I mean deckwatch lair.

April 26, 2017 7:09 a.m.

That is fair. We shall see

April 25, 2017 11:37 p.m.

If you play voidias list, then you should be able to appreciate that a combo that does what his best combo does (nooze) with twice the mana efficiency and no drawback is kind of hard to stop. Basically if an opponent cant drop early gravehate or counter the spell they lose. Given that the combo is instant speed and requires no setup there are only a handful of cards that will shut it down. SBT actually has a great new flashulk package that works with preexisting cards in the deck.

April 25, 2017 9:40 p.m.

How can you doubt the efficiency? Its a 2 mana combo. Nothing is more efficient. If you have the necessary parts it will always win by turn 3 at the latest. Ive said it before this combo is your plan a line. If you run other overlapping combos with it you can get turn 3-4 wins elsewhere. I am not saying a devoted hulk deck gets turn 1-3 victories 80% of the time. I am merely saying it can be the best combo in a deck that wins by turn 3 close to 80% of the time.

April 25, 2017 8:53 p.m.

Human_Wizard Obviously there can be no objective data as it has been around for 1 day, but there are some objective facts about the combo. For a basis of comparison let us look at a combo that is generally considered one of (if not the best) combo in cEDH, Food Chain+Eternal Scourge. It costs 6 mana to go off or 3 mana and 2 cc worth of creatures. This is often achieved on turn 3-4 and occassionally on turn 2. Now food chain is an enchantment, which is hard to tutor for. Eternal scourge is obviously easy, but still it takes a lot of FC only enablers to be consistent (i.e Demonic Consultation) or Extract). These cards are either bad outside the combo (extract) or dont play nicely with the rest of the deck (consultation).

Now let us compare that with Flash+Protean Hulk. It costs 2 mana to win the game. That is a lotus petal and a land...Green creatures are incredibly easy to tutor for i.e Summoner's Pact, Worldly Tutor, Natural Order etc and Flash is similarly easy to tutor for (i.e Mystical Tutor, Merchant Scroll). So just tutor both to hand and cast flash. If it resolves gg. The degeneracy does not end there. You can also just Cabal Therapy+Reanimate hulk from hand then sac it for two mana gg. You can also Entomb+Necromancy him at instant speed for 4 mana. gg I honestly could go on, but there is no need. Flash hulk is instantly the best 2 card combo in cEDH and it fits extremely well into many existing archetypes. It requires no board presence at all and can go off with limited resources.

April 25, 2017 7:58 p.m.

I mean you don't just run hulk. He does best in an overlapping combo package. Even if you just run him I am describing tutoring for one or both half of the combos and still easily winning on turn 3. Hulk is the exact opposite of fair, much in the same way sheldon is the opposite of smart/reasonable. If within a day hulk is consistently faster than FCT, then we have a huge problem. I don't ever troll casuals, but I may make an exception and take a fully pimped out hulk list to my old LGS and smash some asses for a night just to get the word out that hulk is not safe. They bitched about Leo and cheered his demise. They have no clue what awaits them...

April 25, 2017 5:52 p.m.

So yeah...Hulk is insane. Its going to warp the hell out of the format. Getting a turn 3 win with hulk is SLOW hand

April 25, 2017 5:26 p.m.

Hulk is pretty good. Hes almost strictly better than boonweaver, but boonweaver is kind of meh these days. As of now noone has thought of anything that will break the meta, but it always takes a while to solve a strategy. He does open up a large number of interesting decks so that is pretty sweet. Some non black combo decks (who don't have tutors in the command zone) may not be completely terrible so yay!

I am mourning losing Leo as part of the 99 far more than as a commander.

April 25, 2017 6:16 a.m.

Oh well lol. I am just pissed they don't have the banned as commander clause anymore, which would allow great cards like Leo to have a place in edh. In retailiation I vow to make the most oppressive flash hulk deck ever...

April 24, 2017 7:19 p.m.

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