Lilbrudder Deckling

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IronBlackZepp says... #1

Come to think of it faithless looting might be better then deep analysis in some situations.

April 28, 2017 5:07 p.m.

IronBlackZepp says... #2

Hey I wanted to run this combo by you that I think might be the equivalent of the Angel of glories rise combo for sans red hermit druid decks. Not sure if anyone is doing it or not but I wanted to see if you think it is viable.

Activate hermit druid. Flashback Necrotic ooze with dread return, use moarselhoarder and devoted druid for Infinite mana. Flashback memories journey to put two creatures on top of library. Lab man and another creature like eternal witness. Flashback deep analysis drawing the cards. Play lab man for free. Play eternal witness to get a card like ponder. Win.

April 28, 2017 4:52 p.m.

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Ravos is tier 3 at worst and probably a lot better imo. He will probably top out in the tier 2 range once someone figures out how to abuse him. The bar for a 5 color general is pretty low tbh. Hes probably better than sliver queen and alara baby and people play them competitively and being colorless means he will hit the table super early and he can one shot people pretty easily.

If you cast life's legacy on him and activate his ability in response does it count the power before or after the counters are removed?

May 26, 2017 1:35 p.m.

Arcum is ok, hes certainly playable, but he is outclassed as a fast combo general by about 10-15 decks, and for anything else by teferi.

Seriously people this tier 0 nonsense needs to stop. The combo mentioned isnt even viable. The only arcum combo worth building around is paradox arcum, but honestly Thrasios is pretty much strictly better and Thrasios isnt tier 0. There are about 10 decks that on a given day can do just as well.

For you people that think that arcum or kaalia or Ghave is overpowered keep in mind that the fastest combo decks easily AVERAGE under a turn 4 victory in a vacuum (the fastest average between 3.1 and 3.3), and many have a solid counterspell package to protect thier combos. For what its worth Circu is probably tier 3 with dramatic scepter being a thing.

May 25, 2017 5:58 p.m.

We have an answer to any hoser general with plenty of ways to tutor for it in Gilded Drake so that would be my first go to answer since it is better than removal in that they lose access to thier commander until they spend mana and a card to kill thier own general.

With that being said, pongify and rapid hybridization are strong options that double as a cheap way to kill hulk. I would slot in either in place of daze. With those two options plus chain of vapor you should have more than enough ways to clear away problematic creatures. Or you could just tainted pact and labman to get around linvala completely

May 25, 2017 3 p.m.

invigorate_berserk10: Thank you for the kind words. Natural state is certainly worse but in some metas having both is key.

May 24, 2017 10:12 p.m.

IronBlackZepp: Thank you for the great questions. So in theory, Fatestitcher is better as a 3rd creature, but in practice it does not matter most of the time since we have a high creature concentration to ensure we get there. I actually just recorded the results from my last 100 goldfishes with the deck and the needed land mattered in 0 games and over 50 of my games were "won" with HD. On the other hand the upside of having a functionally useful creature in that slot you can repestedly recur into play for just a land has mattered in several of the games for both Skullclamp and Diabolic Intent. Havinf the ability flourish in slower games FAR outweighs the downside which has proven to be miniscule for this particular deck

Both beast within and natural state are solid includes, especially natural state, but we aim to be the hammer in most games and make others respond to us as opposed to interacting with others. I could see adding natural state in the right meta, but beast within is a bit too expensive for the types of decks this deck is designed to play against.

May 24, 2017 8:37 p.m.

I would cut some lands for mana rocks. Coldsteel Heart Mind Stone Gilded Lotus etc would help them deck considerably. Also I would add another wheel like Memory Jar

May 23, 2017 4:39 p.m.


All Nightmare Long (SBT Primer)

Commander / EDH* Lilbrudder

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May 23, 2017 4:35 p.m.

Pheardemons: Carpet of flowers is one of the most broken cards in cEDH. It is an auto-include if you play green in cEDH pods due to the high concentration of blue decks. With that being said, it is a situational card at most commander nights given that people are more focused on fun decks and there are far fewer decks that consistently follow up a turn 1 Tropical Island with a turn 2 Underground Sea.

costrander3689: Thanks Brother!

Grantley91: No Original duals (can get by with other dual lands); No grim tutor (Its the worst tutor in the deck); imperial seal would hurt ALOT more to lose but not many people can afford it. You could replace these with a high number of iffy tutors that would imbalance the deck some and make one of the combos a focal point. Eldritch Evolution, Summoner's Pact, Merchant Scroll, Shred Memory; Muddle the Mixture Drift of Phantasms, Fauna Shaman could all be justified but aren't ideal. You could also just add more interaction. Beyond that cutting Force of Will or a Mox Diamond could make sense.

enpc: Extract is a solid tutor. If I was making food chain the primary combo I would definitely include it, but it is my backup atm. If I focus more on it its definitely a solid include and a great focused hate piece to decks with a single point of failure.

May 22, 2017 11:30 p.m.

BaronBS: The cEDH community just had a multiplayer tournament and people play in cEDH pods both on cockatrice and Play EDH nightly, which plays with paper cards via webcam. We have more results to base our decisions on than ever before. The issue is no longer data but that the vast majority of people who post on this decklist are ignorant of just how powerful tier 1-2 decks are as TheDevicer pointed out. For instance the fastest combo decks in existence can win on turn 3 or earlier over 50% of the time and on turn 2 a little under 20% of the time. A general like Ghave is just ok. Hes barely competitively viable anymore with 4 color lists, simply because he is mana hungry, commander centric, and lacks blue to protect his combos. Just because a general dominates in your competi-casual meta does not mean he can beat Zur or Thrasios, or Teferi. I have little hope this situation becomes remedied any time soon

May 22, 2017 5:30 p.m.

Sorry guys and gals (do we have any gals?),

I have been consumed in SBT. Just dropped my primer. Give it a looksie and appreciate perfection (not very humble brag lol). I promise now that my replacement for Leo (RIP; So sorry Megalomania for your loss, but hey brother BUG or BUGx is always viable, your investment is safe :-) is live I will be more of a team player and pay attention to tappedout. Mea Culpa!

May 21, 2017 9:26 p.m.

I figured lol. That was just my favorite board wipe back in the day.

May 19, 2017 12:31 p.m.

Ixidron Birthing Pod into Massacre Wurm is pretty great

May 18, 2017 10:01 p.m.

No reason tbh. I am sometimes lazy with land bases and I must have forgotten to add it

May 18, 2017 1:25 p.m.

Yeah pretty much tier 1-2 combo deck can fairly consistently win before Omnath hits the table and red green lacks appropriate answers to those decks especially since omrath doesn't want to go the ruric thar route and fill the deck with hate pieces. If omnath was a 5 drop then perhaps tier 2 would be a possibility but yeah omnath is nowhere near competitive in any measurable dimension. I would imagine omnath can probably win at turn 4-5 at the same rate SBT or Thrasios can win on turn 2-3.

May 17, 2017 7:53 p.m.

I can't take credit for the hasted pile. Its the work of monkeryz, but yeah its pretty great. I dont use fatestitcher myself. I use Bloodghast, which forms a great draw engine with Skullclamp and is a great Entomb target. You can also Survival of the Fittest bloodghast into Trinket Mage for 2-4 nearly free cards a turn. Since you are doing hulk you may want to consider Necromancy over animate dead for the free sac and instant speed cast.

May 15, 2017 5:14 p.m.

Any time brother. So in case you were wondering the free hasted HD pile is Mogis's Marauder, Deathrite Shaman, and Hermit Druid.

The graveyard free pile you use on your opponents endstep is Laboratory Maniac, Hapless Researcher, and Hermit Druid

There is also a bomberman pile of Karmic Guide and Viscera Seer into Auriok Salvagers and Phantasmal Image into Trinket Mage and Grand Abolisher

May 15, 2017 4:39 p.m.

If you are not using it to win with HD you are better off not having it. Its not worth it for a summoning sickness win condition.

May 15, 2017 3:03 p.m.

How are you using nooze?

May 15, 2017 6:33 a.m.

Needs more Ad Nauseam. You could also maybe replace Angel of Glory's Rise with Flash+ Protean Hulk. There is a bomberman hulk pile and a hasted hermit druid pile. There is also a no graveyard HD pile. Aside from these possible changes that arent really necessary the list looks very good

May 15, 2017 5:46 a.m.

Most of the proposed categories are simply essential to any good deck. As long as this theme does not force you to play cards that do not fit with the rest of the deck I say flavor the hell out of the deck :-)

May 15, 2017 5:37 a.m.

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