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A Ghave, Guru of Spores Primer

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"I gave that bitch an infinite combo. Bitches love infinite combos.”

This deck was one of the first ideas I had for commander when I was first getting into the format. While tying to decide who would be a fun commander to play, I thought about the kinds of things I already liked to play in my kitchen table decks. One of my favorites was a fungus deck that I had started building from the structure deck in Time Spiral.

I really liked fungus as a tribe, and when I discovered Ghave, Guru of Spores , I knew I found my commander. Originally he was the helm of a fungus tribal deck that abused spore counters, saprolings, and +1/+1 counters. Over time I discovered the crazy things you can do with Ghave, and so I gradually started adding combos. At first I started with an infinite mana combo using Doubling Season and Earthcraft because I didn’t like running out of mana before I got to do the things I wanted to do. Eventually it developed into the crazy combo machine it is now. I may one day go back and rebuild Ghave Fungus Tribal, but for now this is where he stays.

The goal of this deck is to get an infinite combo be it mana, tokens, death triggers, or what have you. From there we can control the board state or go into one of our win cons. Some of the combos are a win con by themselves. Various combo pieces play the same role as several other cards and can therefore be substituted in various combinations of which there are a LOT. Keep in mind the ones that are interchangeable. I'll go into detail with them later in this guide.

Ghave, Guru of Spores is my favorite card in all of Magic. As a player I have found that Abzan fits me perfectly as a color combination. Counters, tokens, mana ramp, and sacrificing creatures are just my style, and all of them can be found in these colors. Abzan represents life, death, and growth in a continuous balanced cycle. And that’s what this deck is all about: continuous cycles. Because I don’t like limitations.

Ghave is the combo king because so many cards fit his engine. Within this deck are a few combos that are independent of the commander, and one could argue that they would be a better fit in a reanimator deck. While this is true, they make great backup combos here if we don’t have access to Ghave, and Ghave is necessary for the many other combos we hope to achieve. His ability is cheap and fluid, turning counters into creatures and vice-versa. He has just the tools we need for an effective combo deck. If we lose a combo piece to removal, we have another that can take its place beside our combo king.

Combo vs Synergy

In my experience, there is not only a misconception about the difference between combo and synergy but also some dissent in the magic community about what makes card interactions a combo and then even further discourse over whether a combo is infinite. One problem at a time. Let’s first look at the difference between combo and synergy. I’ll be operating with the following definitions:

Combo - “A combo refers to cards that interact with each other in a way that’s significantly stronger than the sum of its parts.”

Synergy - “Synergy refers to cards that work well together and enhance the value of each other.”

Both of these definitions were taken from Philosophy of Combo, and there is a distinct difference between the two.

The article uses Pestermite and Splinter Twin for an example of a combo. Each by itself does not impact the board very much, but together they create infinite creatures. The interaction between the two cards is much more significant than either of them could be alone.

Synergy on the other hand does not have the same explosive power as a combo. Tribal decks will have a lot of synergy because many tribal cards increase the value of the other cards in the deck, but the effect is usually incremental.

Infinite Mandatory vs Infinite Non-Mandatory

This leaves us with the ambiguity of what makes a combo infinite. Some would argue that a combo is not infinite unless it continues indefinitely unless interrupted by another action that changes the board state. Otherwise it is just a recurring action that the player can repeat an arbitrary number of times. Others think that because an action is repeatable, it can be repeated to infinity and thus makes it an infinite combo. The distinction between the two actually lies in the Comprehensive Rules.

421. Handling “Infinite” Loops

421.1. Occasionally the game can get into a state in which a set of actions could be repeated forever. The “infinity rule” governs how to break such loops.

421.2. If the loop contains one or more optional actions and one player controls them all, that player chooses a number. The loop is treated as repeating that many times or until the other player intervenes, whichever comes first.

421.3. If the loop contains at least one optional action controlled by each player and actions by both players are required to continue the loop, the active player chooses a number. The nonactive player then has two choices. He or she can choose a lower number, in which case the loop continues that number of times plus whatever fraction is necessary for the active player to “have the last word.” Or he or she can agree to the number the active player chose, in which case the loop continues that number of times plus whatever fraction is necessary for the nonactive player to “have the last word.” (Note that either fraction may be zero.)

Example: One player controls a creature with the ability “: [This creature] gains flying.” Another player controls a permanent with the ability “: Target creature loses flying.” The “infinity rule” ensures that regardless of which player initiated the gain/lose flying ability, the nonactive player will always have the final choice and therefore be able to determine whether the creature has flying. (Note that this assumes that the first player attempted to give the creature flying at least once.)

421.4. If the loop contains only mandatory actions, the game ends in a draw. (See rule 102.6.)

421.5. If the loop contains at least one optional action controlled by each player and these actions don’t depend on one another, the active player chooses a number. The nonactive player can either agree to that number or choose a higher number. Note that this rule applies even if the actions could exist in separate loops rather than in a single loop.

Those who argue that an infinite combo is only infinite if the combo continues on its own because of mandatory actions are technically correct. Mandatory actions will continue regardless of any players unless acted upon by a player changing the game state.

Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond is an example of an infinite combo as stated in rule 421.4. Upon gaining life each card will trigger off the other one until each opponent's life is reduced to 0 which ends the game and therefore the combo. This particular combo normally ends in a win for the person playing it because all their opponents' life reduces to 0. A situation in which this would result in a draw is if someone had a Platinum Angel on the field. Because that player cannot lose the game, the combo continues to trigger indefinitely. Unless interrupted the game is a draw.

An example of a loop indicated in rule 421.2 would be Devoted Druid + Vizier of Remedies . While technically not infinite, it allows the player to repeat the actions Ad Nauseam . These types of combos are generally referred to as "infinite combos" because they can basically be chosen to continue to infinity. However based on the rules what actually happens is the player chooses a number. The combo performs the actions that number of times or until it is interrupted by another player.

Conclusion

So technically...no, most of the combos in this deck aren't "infinite." They employ loops like the Devoted Druid + Vizier of Remedies combo. But the deck wouldn't sound nearly as cool if it was named "Ghave That Bitch a Repeatable Action an Arbitrarily Large Number of Times."

Step 1: Play a combo

Step 2: Do something with the combo

Step 3: ???

Step 4: Profit

How to play the combos and what to do with them are explained in detail below.

Ghave functions with two other combo pieces in mind. In order to create an endless chain of resources to abuse his ability, he needs a mana source and a source of counters. As long as we have these two functional pieces we have a self-sustaining combo.

Our mana sources are:

Our sources of counters are:

Below I'll explain how each of these interact with other cards in the deck to go infinite. It is worth noting that there are many substitute possibilities to achieve our combos, so I'll only be explaining how some of them work. When we substitute a card in, the combo works pretty much the same way.

Earthcraft

While our Altars give us mana directly when we sacrifice a creature, Earthcraft is dependent on having basic lands in play which is why it important to fetch a basic if you plan on using it. The infinite mana we receive is color dependent on what we have in play. If we only have a Forest to work with, then we only get unlimited mana. We get the most value out of an infinite mana combo when we have all our basic colors out, so keep that in mind. However if all you need the mana for is to make tokens, then it doesn't matter what color you have available.

Doubling Season + Earthcraft + Ghave, Guru of Spores

Let's assume we have these three cards out plus a Forest . If we played Ghave after Doubling Season then he would have 10 +1/+1 counters on him, but it really doesn't matter. We'll assume he has 5. Here's how to play this combo:

  1. Tap for . Remove a +1/+1 counter from Ghave leaving him with 4. Doubling Season puts two saproling tokens into play.
  2. Use Earthcraft to tap a saproling to untap the forest. Tap the forest again and remove another +1/+1 counter from Ghave, leaving him with 3. We get another two saprolings for a total of 3 untapped saps and 1 tapped sap.
  3. Tap another sap (2 untapped, 2 tapped) and then sacrifice one of the tapped saprolings (2 untapped, 1 tapped) to put two +1/+1 counters on Ghave thanks to Doubling Season . We're now back to the number of counters we started with but have gained some saprolings we can tap for mana.
  4. Repeat steps 1-3 and we'll gain more saprolings each time so we can then say we have as many saprolings as we could ever want and therefore have enough to tap for as much mana as we want. Then we can start sacrificing our many tokens to increase Ghave's +1/+1 counters making him infinite/infinite. Since we have infinite tapped and untapped saprolings and infinity +1/+1 counters on Ghave, we can start putting +1/+1 counters on our tokens and any other creatures we might have and make our whole board infinitely strong.

Cathars' Crusade + Earthcraft + Ghave, Guru of Spores

This combo works with any card that adds +1/+1 counters when a creature enters play and will give us infinite creatures, but all but the last one will be tapped when we first make them. Do something with them if you don't want to be the target of everything in the next round before you can untap them all and use them.

We'll assume we have the combo pieces plus a basic land in play:

  1. Tap the land and remove a +1/+1 counter from Ghave to create a saproling. When the token comes into play, Ghave and the saproling each get a +1/+1 counter thanks to Cathars' Crusade . This replaces the one we removed to make the token.
  2. Use Earthcraft to tap the token to untap the land so we can activate Ghave again. Remove a +1/+1 counter from our new saproling and make a token.
  3. Rinse and repeat for as many tokens as you desire. If we continue to remove a counter from the newest saproling, Ghave and his fungal army will become infinite/infinite.

Ashnod's Altar

Ashnod's Altar combos more than any other card in this list, and for good reason. It acts as a sac outlet that also fuels our Ghave engine. Be aware that any infinite mana combo involving Ashnod's Altar will be colorless mana, and while good for keeping our loop going, it doesn't help us play anything from our hand.

Ashnod's Altar + Doubling Season + Ghave, Guru of Spores

  1. Tap a land for mana and use that mana to remove a counter from Ghave, making two tokens thanks to Doubling Season .
  2. Sacrifice a token to Ashnod's Altar , floating .
  3. Use to remove another counter from Ghave, making two more tokens for a total of three.
  4. Use our last floating to sacrifice a token and give Ghave two +1/+1 counters.
  5. Every time we remove a counter, we get two tokens, and every time we sacrifice a saproling to Ghave, we get two counters. Ashnod's Altar provides the mana needed to keep this engine going, netting us infinite tokens, counters, and colorless mana.

Ashnod's Altar + Champion of Lambholt + Ghave, Guru of Spores

  1. Tap a land for mana and remove a +1/+1 counter from Ghave to make a token which puts a +1/+1 counter on Champion of Lambholt .
  2. Sacrifice the token to Ashnod's Altar to float .
  3. Use to remove the +1/+1 counter from Champion of Lambholt and create another token which puts a counter back on our champion.
  4. Each time we do this, we are left with floating. Repeat this as many times as we want for as much colorless mana as we desire.

Phyrexian Altar

Phyrexian Altar works in almost any of the same combos as Ashnod's Altar , the difference being that we get one mana of any color rather than . This can be an advantage or disadvantage to our combos depending on which one we are playing. Sometimes we want the extra mana from Ashnod to produce tokens, and sometimes we will actually net mana without pouring it into Ghave. In this case Phyrexian Altar is actually more useful because we get all the colors we'd ever need.

Undying creatures are conditional sources of counters for Ghave, the condition being having an available sacrifice outlet. We have three Undying creatures in the deck outside of Mikaeus, the Unhallowed paired with non-human creatures. These are:

The Undying ability has excellent synergy with Ghave since we can remove the +1/+1 counter from our undying creature and sacrifice it all over again. We can abuse in different ways depending on our sac outlet. For instance here is what would happen if we used Phyrexian Altar .

Ghave, Guru of Spores + Phyrexian Altar + Young Wolf

  1. Sacrifice Young Wolf to Phyrexian Altar to produce one mana of the color of your choice. Young Wolf returns with a +1/+1 counter.
  2. Use our floating mana to remove the +1/+1 counter from Young Wolf and make a token.
  3. Repeat steps 1 and 2. Because Young Wolf no longer has a counter on him when he's sacrificed, his undying ability triggers. We can do this over and over again so that we have infinite tokens. Now that we have infinite tokens, we can sacrifice them to the altar for infinite colored mana as well.
Persist is another ability that allows us to consistently return our sac fodder from the grave. As long as we have an active ability that puts +1/+1 counters on them, our persist creatures will no longer have their -1/-1 counters and will continue to come back. With this in mind not all of our counter sources work with persist creatures. Here are the ones that do: In addition to a counter source, we also need a free sac outlet: And finally these are the persist creatures we have to work with: It is worth noting that Ghave is not required to pull off these combos. This means we have 5 x 5 x 3 = 75 different paths we can take to go infinite without the commander from the persist strategy alone.
Ashnod's Altar + Cathars' Crusade + Kitchen Finks This combo works with any persist creature and will activate the persist creatures's ability infinite times.
  1. Sacrifice Kitchen Finks to Ashnod's Altar .
  2. Kitchen Finks comes back to the field with a -1/-1 counter on it.
  3. When Kitchen Finks enters the battlefield, Cathars' Crusade puts a +1/+1 counter on it which negates the -1/-1 counter and removes them both.
  4. We can now sacrifice our persist creature continuously, netting us infinite mana.
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed has amazing synergy in Ghave Combo. Not only does he give non-humans undying so we can bring them back when we normally couldn't, but he right out combos with persist creatures because he gives them undying in addition to persist. We get to pick which order undying and persist triggers, so once the first one resolves the other ability fizzles. Here’s how it goes infinite:
  1. Creature dies and persist triggers. It enters the battlefield with a -1/-1 counter.
  2. Creature dies again. This time undying triggers since it has no +1/+1 counter on it. It enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter.
  3. Creature dies again and persist triggers since it had no -1/-1 counters.
The abilities take turns triggering to continuously bring back our creature.
One of the most resilient combos in the deck is our infinite recursion combo. Karmic Guide + Reveillark + a sac outlet. Saffi Eriksdotter can replace either Karmic Guide or Reveillark and achieve the same result.
  1. Sacrifice Karmic Guide first. This is important.
  2. Sacrifice Reveillark . When it leaves the battlefield, it will return Karmic Guide plus any other creature power 2 or less.
  3. When Karmic Guide returns to the battlefield, it brings back Reveillark .
This combo allows us to have access to almost anything in our graveyard and reap the benefit of our sac outlet infinite times. If we utilize all three pieces, Saffi Eriksdotter will bring back Reveillark who brings back Saffi Eriksdotter and Karmic Guide who brings back anyone we want from the graveyard regardless of power. It also allows for infinite ETB and death triggers.
The following combos net us infinite mana Replace Champion of Lambholt with The following combos utilize persist creatures Replace Cathars' Crusade with In any of these combos Ashnod's Altar can be replaced with Any of these combos will net us infinite colorless mana with Ashnod's Altar and infinite colored mana with Phyrexian Altar . With the latter we can cast Ghave, Guru of Spores immediately and start making tokens. If we use the former, we will need to have handy to cast him. The following combos utilize our infinite recursion combo using an Altar as a sac outlet Replace Reveillark with Replace Karmic Guide with Replace Ashnod's Altar with
The following combos net us infinite tokens Replace Cathars' Crusade with The following combo nets us infinite tokens OR infinite colorless mana The following combos are unique in that they produce untapped tokens Replace Cathars' Crusade with
Exchange Phyrexian Altar for any infinite mana Ghave combos containing Ashnod's Altar for infinite death triggers. These combos don't net us mana or tokens but allow us to abuse "whenever a creature dies" cards. The exceptions are combos that include persist creatures because they don't require us to use the mana floated with Phyrexian Altar to keep the combo going. These combos would then look like this: Replace Cathars' Crusade with The following combos involve any persist creature with any sac outlet Replace Cathars' Crusade with The following combo will trigger a non-human creature's ability infinite times Replace Ashnod's Altar with Our infinite recursion combo will also give us infinite death triggers
  • Karmic Guide + Reveillark + sac outlet
  • Replace Reveillark with Replace Karmic Guide with We can take advantage of the above combos depending on which persist creature and which sac outlet we choose to use as well as which "whenever dies" card we may have active. I'll go into detail with these in "Combo Abusers"
    The following combos will result in infinite damage, winning the game on the spot.
    Ghave's Messenger Replace Ashnod's Altar with Unhallowed Ballista Replace Ashnod's Altar with Add Blasting Station to any infinite tokens combo or use it as the sac outlet in any infinite death triggers combo.
    Add Walking Ballista to any infinite mana combo.
    Included in this list are cards that take advantage of our many combos. We reap different benefits depending on which combo we have going.

    Infinite Mana Combo

    Dump all our mana into Walking Ballista for infinite damage.

    Infinite Tokens Combo

    The following cards can take advantage of having infinite tokens available

    Infinite Death Triggers Combo

    We can do different things depending on what persist creature and which sacrifice outlet we choose to use Persist: Sac Outlet:

    Passive Effects

    We can also utilize our passive effects no matter which persist creature and sac outlet we choose.

    ETB Effects

    Using our infinite recursion combo, we can abuse any enter the battlefield (or leave the battlefield) effects. With this we can use: You can also get creative with this one and use other ETB effects you have at your disposal.
    Making all these combos is fun, and we can certainly change the boardstate to our advantage, but the eventual goal is to win. Here are the win cons available to us. These are the most common ways we'll win a game. A few cards in the deck can be considered win cons because they net one of the above results. For instance Pattern of Rebirth can be a win con because it cheats out Protean Hulk who can fetch us a game winning combo if we sacrifice him. Here's how this one works:
    1. Sacrifice Protean Hulk . Grab Karmic Guide and Viscera Seer . Karmic Guide brings back Protean Hulk .
    2. Sac Hulk to Seer and grab Saffi Eriksdotter , Blood Artist / Zulaport Cutthroat , and a one or two drop of your choice.
    3. Sac Hulk again and grab Reveillark who is needed to keep a recursion combo going to bring back Protean Hulk continuously. With an infinite recursion combo on the field ( Karmic Guide + Saffi Eriksdotter + Reveillark + Viscera Seer ) along with Blood Artist / Zulaport Cutthroat , we win on the spot. However if you don't feel like going straight for the win, you can use this combo to tutor any creatures you want from the deck thanks to Hulk.
    1. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Earthcraft + Doubling Season
    2. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Earthcraft + Illusionist's Bracers
    3. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Ashnod's Altar + Cathars' Crusade
    4. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Ashnod's Altar + Juniper Order Ranger
    5. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Ashnod's Altar + Doubling Season
    6. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Ashnod's Altar + Illusionist's Bracers
    7. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Ashnod's Altar + Young Wolf
    8. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Ashnod's Altar + Strangleroot Geist
    9. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Phyrexian Altar + Young Wolf
    10. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Phyrexian Altar + Strangleroot Geist
    11. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Ashnod's Altar + Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter
    12. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Ashnod's Altar + Champion of Lambholt
    13. Karmic Guide + Reveillark + Ashnod's Altar
    14. Karmic Guide + Saffi Eriksdotter + Ashnod's Altar
    15. Saffi Eriksdotter + Reveillark + Ashnod's Altar
    16. Karmic Guide + Reveillark + Phyrexian Altar
    17. Karmic Guide + Saffi Eriksdotter + Phyrexian Altar
    18. Saffi Eriksdotter + Reveillark + Phyrexian Altar
    19. Karmic Guide + Reveillark + Viscera Seer
    20. Karmic Guide + Saffi Eriksdotter + Viscera Seer
    21. Saffi Eriksdotter + Reveillark + Viscera Seer
    22. Karmic Guide + Reveillark + Carrion Feeder
    23. Karmic Guide + Saffi Eriksdotter + Carrion Feeder
    24. Saffi Eriksdotter + Reveillark + Carrion Feeder
    25. Karmic Guide + Reveillark + Blasting Station
    26. Karmic Guide + Saffi Eriksdotter + Blasting Station
    27. Saffi Eriksdotter + Reveillark + Blasting Station
    28. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Earthcraft + Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter
    29. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Earthcraft + Cathars' Crusade
    30. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Earthcraft + Champion of Lambholt
    31. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Earthcraft + Ivy Lane Denizen
    32. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Earthcraft + Juniper Order Ranger
    33. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Earthcraft + Young Wolf
    34. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Earthcraft + Strangleroot Geist
    35. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Ashnod's Altar + Ivy Lane Denizen
    36. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Cryptolith Rite + Strangleroot Geist + Ashnod's Altar
    37. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Cryptolith Rite + Strangleroot Geist + Phyrexian Altar
    38. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Cryptolith Rite + Strangleroot Geist + Blasting Station
    39. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Cryptolith Rite + Strangleroot Geist + Carrion Feeder
    40. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Cryptolith Rite + Strangleroot Geist + Viscera Seer
    41. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Devoted Druid + Cathars' Crusade
    42. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Devoted Druid + Ivy Lane Denizen
    43. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Phyrexian Altar + Cathars' Crusade
    44. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Phyrexian Altar + Juniper Order Ranger
    45. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Phyrexian Altar + Doubling Season
    46. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Phyrexian Altar + Illusionist's Bracers
    47. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Phyrexian Altar + Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter
    48. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Phyrexian Altar + Champion of Lambholt
    49. Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter + Kitchen Finks + Ashnod's Altar
    50. Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter + Kitchen Finks + Phyrexian Altar
    51. Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter + Kitchen Finks + Blasting Station
    52. Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter + Kitchen Finks + Carrion Feeder
    53. Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter + Kitchen Finks + Viscera Seer
    54. Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter + Puppeteer Clique + Ashnod's Altar
    55. Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter + Puppeteer Clique + Phyrexian Altar
    56. Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter + Puppeteer Clique + Blasting Station
    57. Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter + Puppeteer Clique + Carrion Feeder
    58. Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter + Puppeteer Clique + Viscera Seer
    59. Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter + Woodfall Primus + Ashnod's Altar
    60. Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter + Woodfall Primus + Phyrexian Altar
    61. Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter + Woodfall Primus + Blasting Station
    62. Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter + Woodfall Primus + Carrion Feeder
    63. Bloodspore Thrinax with at least one +1/+1 counter + Woodfall Primus + Viscera Seer
    64. Cathars' Crusade + Kitchen Finks + Ashnod's Altar
    65. Cathars' Crusade + Kitchen Finks + Phyrexian Altar
    66. Cathars' Crusade + Kitchen Finks + Blasting Station
    67. Cathars' Crusade + Kitchen Finks + Carrion Feeder
    68. Cathars' Crusade + Kitchen Finks + Viscera Seer
    69. Cathars' Crusade + Puppeteer Clique + Ashnod's Altar
    70. Cathars' Crusade + Puppeteer Clique + Phyrexian Altar
    71. Cathars' Crusade + Puppeteer Clique + Blasting Station
    72. Cathars' Crusade + Puppeteer Clique + Carrion Feeder
    73. Cathars' Crusade + Puppeteer Clique + Viscera Seer
    74. Cathars' Crusade + Woodfall Primus + Ashnod's Altar
    75. Cathars' Crusade + Woodfall Primus + Phyrexian Altar
    76. Cathars' Crusade + Woodfall Primus + Blasting Station
    77. Cathars' Crusade + Woodfall Primus + Carrion Feeder
    78. Cathars' Crusade + Woodfall Primus + Viscera Seer
    79. Juniper Order Ranger + Kitchen Finks + Ashnod's Altar
    80. Juniper Order Ranger + Kitchen Finks + Phyrexian Altar
    81. Juniper Order Ranger + Kitchen Finks + Blasting Station
    82. Juniper Order Ranger + Kitchen Finks + Carrion Feeder
    83. Juniper Order Ranger + Kitchen Finks + Viscera Seer
    84. Juniper Order Ranger + Puppeteer Clique + Ashnod's Altar
    85. Juniper Order Ranger + Puppeteer Clique + Phyrexian Altar
    86. Juniper Order Ranger + Puppeteer Clique + Blasting Station
    87. Juniper Order Ranger + Puppeteer Clique + Carrion Feeder
    88. Juniper Order Ranger + Puppeteer Clique + Viscera Seer
    89. Juniper Order Ranger + Woodfall Primus + Ashnod's Altar
    90. Juniper Order Ranger + Woodfall Primus + Phyrexian Altar
    91. Juniper Order Ranger + Woodfall Primus + Blasting Station
    92. Juniper Order Ranger + Woodfall Primus + Carrion Feeder
    93. Juniper Order Ranger + Woodfall Primus + Viscera Seer
    94. Ivy Lane Denizen + Kitchen Finks + Ashnod's Altar
    95. Ivy Lane Denizen + Kitchen Finks + Phyrexian Altar
    96. Ivy Lane Denizen + Kitchen Finks + Blasting Station
    97. Ivy Lane Denizen + Kitchen Finks + Carrion Feeder
    98. Ivy Lane Denizen + Kitchen Finks + Viscera Seer
    99. Ivy Lane Denizen + Puppeteer Clique + Ashnod's Altar
    100. Ivy Lane Denizen + Puppeteer Clique + Phyrexian Altar
    101. Ivy Lane Denizen + Puppeteer Clique + Blasting Station
    102. Ivy Lane Denizen + Puppeteer Clique + Carrion Feeder
    103. Ivy Lane Denizen + Puppeteer Clique + Viscera Seer
    104. Ivy Lane Denizen + Woodfall Primus + Ashnod's Altar
    105. Ivy Lane Denizen + Woodfall Primus + Phyrexian Altar
    106. Ivy Lane Denizen + Woodfall Primus + Blasting Station
    107. Ivy Lane Denizen + Woodfall Primus + Carrion Feeder
    108. Ivy Lane Denizen + Woodfall Primus + Viscera Seer
    109. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Kitchen Finks + Ashnod's Altar
    110. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Kitchen Finks + Phyrexian Altar
    111. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Kitchen Finks + Blasting Station
    112. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Kitchen Finks + Carrion Feeder
    113. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Kitchen Finks + Viscera Seer
    114. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Puppeteer Clique + Ashnod's Altar
    115. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Puppeteer Clique + Phyrexian Altar
    116. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Puppeteer Clique + Blasting Station
    117. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Puppeteer Clique + Carrion Feeder
    118. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Puppeteer Clique + Viscera Seer
    119. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Woodfall Primus + Ashnod's Altar
    120. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Woodfall Primus + Phyrexian Altar
    121. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Woodfall Primus + Blasting Station
    122. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Woodfall Primus + Carrion Feeder
    123. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Woodfall Primus + Viscera Seer
    124. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Ashnod's Altar + non human creature
    125. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Phyrexian Altar + non human creature
    126. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Ashnod's Altar + Geralf's Messenger
    127. Ghave, Guru of Spores + Phyrexian Altar + Geralf's Messenger
    128. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Walking Ballista + Ashnod's Altar
    129. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Walking Ballista + Phyrexian Altar
    130. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Walking Ballista + Blasting Station
    131. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Walking Ballista + Carrion Feeder
    132. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Walking Ballista + Viscera Seer
    133. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Walking Ballista + Blood Artist
    134. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Walking Ballista + Zulaport Cutthroat
    135. Karmic Guide + Reveillark + Saffi Eriksdotter + Protean Hulk + sac outlet
    Bloodspore Thrinax Stats:
    • Role: Counter Source
    • Number of Combos: 18
    • Combo Functions:
      1. Infinite Mana
      2. Infinite Tokens
      3. Infinite Death Triggers
    Cathars' Crusade Stats:
    • Role: Counter Source
    • Number of Combos: 19
    • Combo Functions:
      1. Infinite Mana and Infinite Tokens
      2. Infinite Mana
      3. Infinite Tokens
      4. Infinite Death Triggers
    Champion of Lambholt Stats:
    • Role: Counter Source
    • Number of Combos: 3
    • Combo Functions:
      1. Infinite Mana
      2. Infinite Tokens
      3. Infinite Death Triggers
    Devoted Druid Stats:
    • Role: Mana Source
    • Number of Combos: 2
    • Combo Functions:
      1. Infinite Tokens
    Doubling Season Stats:
    • Role: Counter Source (Token Source?)
    • Number of Combos: 3
    • Combo Functions:
      1. Infinite Mana and Infinite Tokens
      2. Infinite Death Triggers
    Earthcraft Stats:
    • Role: Mana Source
    • Number of Combos: 9
    • Combo Functions:
      1. Infinite Mana and Infinite Tokens
      2. Infinite Tokens
    Geralf's Messenger Stats:
    • Role: Undying
    • Number of Combos: 2
    • Combo Functions:
      1. Infinite Damage
    Illusionist's Bracers Stats:
    • Role: Counter Source (Token Source?)
    • Number of Combos: 3
    • Combo Functions:
      1. Infinite Mana and Tokens
      2. Infinite Death Triggers
    Ivy Lane Denizen Stats:
    • Role: Counter Source
    • Number of Combos: 18
    • Combo Functions:
      1. Infinite Mana
      2. Infinite Tokens
      3. Infinite Death Triggers
    Juniper Order Ranger Stats:
    • Role: Counter Source
    • Number of Combos: 18
    • Combo Functions:
      1. Infinite Mana
      2. Infinite Tokens
      3. Infinite Death Triggers
    Karmic Guide Stats:
    • Role: Recursion
    • Number of Combos: 11
    • Combo Functions:
      1. Infinite Recursion
    Kitchen Finks Mikaeus, the Unhallowed Protean Hulk Puppeteer Clique Reveillark Saffi Eriksdotter Strangleroot Geist Woodfall Primus Young Wolf
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    I've crafted a prototype budget list here:

    Ghave That Bitch a Budget

    Commander / EDH* Abzkaban

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    Hopefully this gives you an idea of where you can start to build combo Ghave without breaking the bank. Most of the combos are still present in the budget list, and even more can be there if you want to extend to getting a Phyrexian Altar whose price has dropped thanks to Ultimate Masters or even Earthcraft , though this one might be a little more out of reach. These would be the two I'd splurge on for the deck, however, as their presence makes the deck that much more combo efficient. You can easily build the rest on a budget land base and with fewer tutors, though, with alternate options for combo benefits and pieces. Feel free to stick more undying and persist creatures in there than the ones in this list. In order to keep the core of the deck intact, I've opted to not cut cards that are $5, but you can get by without some of the $20+ bombs.
    Many thanks to PookandPie for his contributions to the deck back when it was in its early stage of transitioning from fungus tribal to combo.
    This deck has been super fun to make, and I hope you enjoy it too. If you do, give it a +1! If you spotted a combo that I forgot to list (it's very possible since there are so many) then let me know so I can add it in. Also if you have any suggestions or ideas that might work better, feel free to suggest them! However if you do make a suggestion, please also consider possible cuts. I hope this deck has helped out anyone interested in playing Ghave. He's certainly my favorite.

    All Beware He Who Giveth Bitches Combos

    Updates Add

    Made a few replacements to up the combo synergy of the deck:

    Walking Ballista adds far more value to the deck than Triskelion . First off its cmc is effectively , a good deal cheaper than Trike's . It also interacts with more cards than Trike who only combos with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and the recursion combo. Ballista not only combos with Mikaeus (with the addition of a sac outlet or Blood Artist effect) but also acts as an outlet for infinite mana. It plays the role of combo piece and combo abuser.

    Tooth and Nail 's primary function was to cheat out Mike and Trike , and this is at 9 mana. In faster metas, we will want to have won by then. Its replacement, Natural Order is a far more efficient tutor that brings a creature straight to the battlefield at a lower cmc and the measly price of sacrificing a creature.

    I had been considering adding in Reclamation Sage for some time now. Knight of Autumn is strictly better. At best it clears the board of all hostile artifacts and enchantments or gives us infinite life when used with our recursion combo, and at worst it acts as single target removal. I cut Evolutionary Leap for it since the myriad of other tutors allow me to choose a specific card I want. Leap was rather lackluster in that department, and I needed to pay to sacrifice a creature. Selesnya's new knight will serve the deck better.

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