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Norin the Wary
Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
When a player plays a spell or a creature attacks, remove Norin the Wary from the game. Return it to play under its owner's control at end of turn.
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Norin the Wary Discussion
4 days ago
If you're going to use only one copy spell I'd suggest using Fork over Reverberate. While they're very similar and neither is strictly better or worse than the other one common scenario Fork has over Reverberate is when copying counter spells and turning them red. This can be significant, because in past times when copying counterspells I've had cards like Red Elemental Blast, Pyroblast, and Guttural Response used to counteract my Reverberate when copying a blue counter spell or draw spell. Most non-blue decks that can run those cards will likely run them more-so than not and Fork bypasses that issue easily when needed.
It seems your meta is thoroughly diverse. Hand and deck disruption can be a strong asset for taking down a combo deck, but I wouldn't consider Praetor's Grasp or Wheel of Fortune strong enough effects since combo decks can always run back-up combos to rely on. What really hits combo is repeatable effects and some of the strongest you could probably run would be Mind Slash and Bottomless Pit which a lot of combo players would find nasty. (Painful Quandary is a close third place and can stop storm decks pretty effectively as well.) Also if you're going up against non-graveyard strategies Mesmeric Orb is a ballistic nightmare in any singleton format it's put in which would be the only effective mill card I'd ever recommend when hurting combo.
Do note graveyard-based combos are a little more resilient to the card suggestions I've given above, but so long as you have something like Rest in Peace and/or Planar Void you can easily avoid this issue without giving them any fuel to burn.
Given your meta I would imagine Torpor Orb would lift a lot of weight for you especially against Purphoros, God of the Forge, Palinchron/Deadeye Navigator, and whatever ETB effects the Muldrotha, the Gravetide deck is probably abusing.
One aspect about blue I've never liked was it's use of counter spells. If you find Reverberate helpful I'd recommend also using cards like Seal of Cleansing, Sinister Concoction, Gate to Phyrexia, Aura Fracture, Aura of Silence, and Umezawa's Jitte. Not only do they serve as good rattlesnake cards that deter your opponents from just putting their bombs on the field, but I've noticed blue decks only hold up counter spell mana on turns they might need it on. If you drop one of these early when they're not ready their counter spells won't be able to stop the card effects, and I can verify from past experiences that the blue players I go up against when using the cards I just mentioned hate them fondly because they know I save them for their combos which makes their job of combo-ing out much more complicated. In fact one card I've found more success with than I'd ever give credit to is Molten Vortex, because the number of utility creatures and win-cons it hits without needing to use prime removal spells is pretty big and as I said before it's another one of those spells that if resolved the blue decks are going to have troubles playing around with. The Vortex can remove Mizzix of the Izmagnus, Laboratory Maniac, Norin the Wary, Hermit Druid, Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, etc. and even when I don't have a land to pitch to it I've found it's presence alone is enough to deter plays entirely. Shattering Spree also plays well against blue, because not only can it hit multiple targets, but you can hit the same target twice or three times which would require more than one counter spell to stop a key combo piece being removed if needed.
As for multiple combat steps or a super massive army being swung your way you already can use Ghostly Prison, but if you need more options Norn's Annex can also work as well as Orim's Chant which not only stops combat but can also be used but can also stop storm or certain combos if you cast it at the right moment. It should also be noted that Rule of Law as well as the aforementioned Damping Sphere also does a marvelous job of stopping storm as well. Lastly if your opponents gaining life is an issue I think Rampaging Ferocidon makes a good option, because it can also punish your opponents if they try to build an army, so it fits two functions rather well, and I find the menace handy if you ever need to punch into a super-friends deck.
1 week ago
Hope your deck isn't retired! I like it a lot. Throwing some card ideas at you. I would like to pick your brain on why you wouldn't include these... mana cost, theme?
ETB bounce Norin the Wary
Enchantment Warstorm Surge
1 week ago
Oh good suggestions. I'm definitely taking the advice on the lands. As for the Norin the Wary and Genesis Chamber I think I will keep them just because they are themed with the deck and it isn't meant to be a great deck just a silly one.
1 month ago
I should point out that I agree with MagicalHacker here, I generally don't go out of my way to set up draw engines, rather, they usually pop up within the synergies of what the deck wants to do.
1 month ago
A draw engine is a two card synergy that results in repeatable card draw. I run a Mardu deck so most of the cards will be in colors. I've numbered each engine so you just need to post the engine number followed by your personal score for each. (Feel free to skip any since the list is lengthy. No card is mentioned more than once however.)
A score means the draw engine is janky, unreliable, clunky, inefficient, etc. Basically an engine you'd never consider running under any circumstance. A score means the draw engine is consistent, reliable, fast, and effecient at drawing cards. This score signifies a considerable auto-include for any EDH deck.
Not all draw engines need to be rated. Rating the ones that are the most interesting will do. This feedback will be crucial for other people when considering what draw engine to use for their decks.
1 month ago
I think red is what keeps this deck competitive. It gives me Blood Moon in the sideboard as well as a way to close out the game. Purphoros, God of the Forge does some serious work with all the tokens that will be entering, not to mention Norin the Wary gaining life and pumping our Champion of the Parish and Thalia's Lieutenant.
Thanks for the thoughts!
1 month ago
you may want to consider token creators such as Genesis Chamber which could combo decently with Norin the Wary, a little meme-y but it's worth considering. Also Krenko, Mob Boss can do pretty well alone if you can protect him.
1 month ago
As the title suggests I'm looking for a goblin commander for an EDH deck of mine. Some information: I mainly play 1v1 Commander with my fiance, so the deck needs to be semi-competitive, but overall fun is the key here. Also, since this is for a 1v1 deck the lower the overall CMC of the deck the better. The deck that I currently have is a Krenko, Mob Boss deck, but the main problem is that the deck just stomps anything you put up against it and that's no fun. So, I'm looking for a new commander that can fit a goblin shell. The deck does not have to be mono-red, nor does the commander need to be a goblin, but the commander does need to be capable of commanding a goblin army.
Some commanders that might make the cut:
I'm not sure that Norin the Wary or Squee, the Immortal are really all that strong, but they could be fun. (Edit: I've looked a number of Squee decks and they actually look like a lot of fun.) Wort, the Raidmother seems really interesting, but a 6-drop commander in 1v1 is not really ideal. Daretti, Scrap Savant has some clear interactions with artifacts, but I think he may already be a very common commander. Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician seems to require too many expensive cards (e.g. Crucible of Worlds) for my current budget. So, if anyone can think of any fun, relatively cheap, and useful commanders to fit a goblin tribal shell please let me know!