Celestial Convergence enters the battlefield with seven omen counters on it.
At the beginning of your upkeep, remove an omen counter from Celestial Convergence. If there are no omen counters on Celestial Convergence, the player with the highest life total wins the game. If two or more players are tied for highest life total, the game is a draw.
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Celestial Convergence Discussion
1 week ago
okay. I also run a Kenrith Win con deck with a caveat of no interaction with other players making the deck a true solitaire deck . Here are some notable cards I recommend and also strategies.
The rule of thumb while tinkering with my Kenrith deck is 1:1 ratio (2:1 for some strats). For example, 3 cards are responsible for winning the game using life gain. Celestial Convergence Felidar Sovereign and Test of Endurance . This means that your deck should consist of 3 ways (not including kenrith) to assist with the life gain strategy. There are gem cards that assist with two different type of alternative wins that are honestly life saving cards. BY this rule, it can help you limit to what is needed. Having 3 supportive cards central to 1 wincon card is a waste of space and those supportive cards become dead in your hands without a tutor or that actual win con card.
Here are some recommended cards to help with alternative wins
Wall of Blood - Now this card is real awesome. It assists with Near-Death Experience . Drop this card and near death experience together. In response to the upkeep trigger, use wall of blood to get your life total to 1 while having Angel's Grace as a response to pingers or burn. Wall of blood also assist in Mayael's Aria if you have the life count for it. 2 birds with 1 stone.
Hermit Druid - Just don't run basics and you get a cheaper, consistent Morality Shift without a need of an empty graveyard. 2 birds with 1 stone if you have 20 creatures and Mortal Combat . Get him back with kenrith if he get's shot down, give him haste... you already know
some of these cards are way out of your budget if you have one. But honestly, this is more a joke thematic deck so why not proxy if your group allows. I always proxy my lands..
4 months ago
Hey, this looks like an awesome deck with a fun combo :) You will definitly get an upvote, great job! I'm building a 8.5 tails deck for my own and I was thinking about a pillow fort/life gain strategy with Aetherflux Reservoir , Felidar Sovereign , Evra, Halcyon Witness , and Celestial Convergence as win condition but I realy like the idea of a mono W control deck. What is your general game plan and how do you try to win the game?
7 months ago
The Hatchling cycle from Eventide
Anything with Persist or Undying
10 months ago
Hey Ripwater! Thanks for the kind words. I've been playing Karlov since he was released back in Commander 2015. I've spend the last four years tweaking this deck and editing it, and as you can see from my edit history I still make edits when need be. Let me kind of explain my thought process behind why this deck is the way it is. I've been meaning to put this in yhe description of the deck but I just haven't yet. Then let me give you my thoughts on the cards you suggested to me. Here it goes:
Ever since I got big into magic back in RTR I've loved Orzhov and Life Gain strategies. Up until 2015 I spent a majority of my time playing MTG and hearing about how life gain is a bad strategy. Then Karlov was spoiled and my Obzedat, Ghost Council deck was forever changed! I of course looked at Karlov and thought Voltron. Honestly, who doesn't? Here's one of my problems though, I hate Voltron. I just do. My other problem was that V oltron ISN'T life gain. Yes you're adding life gain to the deck to make Karlov beefy, but you aren't gaining life for the purpose of winning. Celestial Convergence , Felidar Sovereign , and Test of Endurance are all ways I win with life gain. Yes this deck runs Aetherflux Reservoir , and I'd be lying if I said I didn't win with Karlov. Plus I'd be stupid not to try and win with him. That's why I run Rogue's Passage , and Elspeth, Knight-Errant . One makes him unblockable and the other makes him a huge flying boy. I'd also be lying if I said that the orginal version of this deck was good. I first made this deck when I fourteen years old. I didn't know much about previous magic cards. I didn't research cards all that much. The first draft of this deck was AWFUL. It wasn't until about a year after I built the first draft and play tested it and made a ton of changes that this deck kicked ass. I started sitting down at tables in gamestores and have people laugh or scoff of me when I told them it was a life gain deck. Then I'd leave them stunned after I won. In conclusion, Voltron isn't my style and wasn't what I wanted to create when I started building this deck. I wanted to make a Business Casual life gain deck what could win consistently and effectively, and I think that's what I've done. Even if Karlov isn't on the field. I can win. If he is on the field and I can't attack with him I can exile creatures. Karlov is only a resource in this deck. Not the centerpiece.
As for Your suggestions. These cards aren't bad suggestions and may find a way into the deck: Contemplation , Tablet of the Guilds , Archangel of Thune , and Ajani, Caller of the Pride . My only problem is that I have a hard time cutting things from this deck haha. It took me three days to finally decide my last batch of cuts! Let me explain why I dislike the other suggestions.
Let me start with Elspeth, Sun's Champion . Elspeth is my favorite planeswalker, and this card specifically is my favorite planeswalker card ever printed. The original version of this deck actually ran Sun's Champion; however, I found that Elspeth, Knight-Errant 's two plus ones were so much more useful. Making one dude isn't nearly as good as making three, but it can still trigger Soul Warden , Soul's Attendant , Suture Priest , and Auriok Champion . Her other plus one works amazing with Karlov, but also works well with creatures like Serra Ascendant and Divinity of Pride . Nine times out of ten you won't get a Planeswalker's ultimate off, so honestly all the ultimate abilites of the planeswalkers I use are irrelavent. Another thing is that Sun's Champion minus ability had the potential to kill large bombs like Karlov and Serra Ascendant .
I feel like Sunscorch Regent costs to much for an ability that doesn't do much for the deck. There are better turn five plays. This card just isn't that good. I probably would've played this when I was on a budget four years ago.
The fact that Flickering Ward flickers back to your hand is cool, but mono colored EDH decks aren't the most common thing and the fact that this can't be casted at instant speed makes it not worth my time. Yes multicolored cards still cant target whatever creature has this enchantment attached to it, but there are plently of ways to get around this card. There are also other, better one drops I'd rather play in this deck
Lastly we have Whispersilk Cloak this card is decent, but as I said, Karlov isn't the main focus of this deck. I ran this card for a brief period about two years ago, but ultimately cut it for Mana Vault . Whispersilk just wasn't doing what I needed it to do, and the only creature I found it useful on was Karlov.
Once again I thank you for your suggestions, and if I do end up adding the cards I liked from your suggestions making cuts will be very hard! Also thank you for the engaging comment, and for the upvote. My opinion on your deck is this: I personally think it could use more tuning, but it's a grrat start. Here's the other thing I have to say, it's not my deck. It's yours. You built it. If you like it then good. What I think is irrelevant. There's no right or wrong way to build your deck. Voltorn is your deck's main style, and mine is using Life Gain to win. We all have our own ways to play, so as long as you enjoy your deck that's what matters!
11 months ago
Nice deck! I always love lifegain strategies!
Aetherflux Reservoir is a good wincon for lifegain strats, and I think it'd work pretty well considering you've got a lot of low CMC spells. You might also look into Felidar Sovereign and Celestial Convergence as wincons. And Exquisite Blood is an infinite combo with both your Defiant Bloodlord and Sanguine Bond .
11 months ago
Thanks for the help Weiss!
11 months ago
I'm back! I'll let you know the results of the tournament on the deckwatch page.
As for the cuts here is the 10 cards I would consider.
- Celestial Convergence - Yes it's an alternative wincon, but its the slowest one you have
- Felidar Sovereign - That's not a Rebel! Shame on you! :P (On the serious note, not tutorable, better slot elsewhere)
- Crovax, Ascendant Hero - Symmetrical effects can be bad
- Condemn - Cute, but meh
- Heroes Remembered - Cool card, like really cool but cute category
- Plea for Guidance - I really don't like expensive tutors
- Academy Rector - No consistent sac outlet, a great card in general but needs a bit moving pieces to be efficient
- Whipcorder - Underwhelming effect
- Tithe Taker - It's meh, a baby abolisher but it has it's uses but more of a meta play
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope - I love her, no joke I can see why you would run her, but doesn't really benefit your gameplan.
Those would be the cards I would recommend cutting. I would however also consider adding in cards like Faith's Reward as anti removal tech as well as Smothering Tithe cuz that cards is just good. The ones I am iffy about removing is the rector as well as Avacyn cuz she bae. But those are my thoughts!
1 year ago
Solemnity is just a really good hate card that shuts off a lot of other decks, like A LOT. It can enable Celestial Convergence immediately but bricks Divine Intervention and Gemstone Mine , but only hitting 2 cards out of your entire deck is still extremely reasonable to just entirely hose some decks.