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Thwart the Grave
Sorcery
This spell costs less to cast for each creature in your party. (Your party consists of up to four creatures, one Cleric, Rogue, Warrior and Wizard.)
Return target creature card and up to one target Cleric, Rogue, Warrior or Wizard creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
king-saproling on We Like To Party
3 years ago
Ah I see.
You are correct that if the commander's color identity is pure white, then you could only include colorless and white cards. However, Tazri, Beacon of Unity 's color identity is thanks to the appearance of those symbols in her text box.
If you go with Tazri, you might consider picking these up: Coveted Prize , Nimble Trapfinder , Thwart the Grave , Crib Swap (this card has all creature types, so it can be picked up via Tazri's ability!), Nameless Inversion , Linvala, Shield of Sea Gate , Zagras, Thief of Heartbeats , Squad Commander , Oakhame Adversary , Malakir Blood-Priest , Veteran Adventurer , Sygg, River Cutthroat , Nullpriest of Oblivion , Moritte of the Frost , Nin, the Pain Artist
zamiero on Vial and Ghost!
3 years ago
3> Ahhh I've been wanting to play with Obosh, the Preypiercer and Angrath's Marauders - glad you found a spot for them. While you're at it, you could also consider other "damage doublers" such as Wound Reflection and Fiendish Duo. I've thought about a Vial-Smasher deck with a White partner just to add Gisela, Blade of Goldnight.
3> I see you enjoy big monsters and X-spells here. Oh to be young again... but seriously, this seems like a good deck to play them in as you would be rewarded. Instants are your friend, as you can Smash Vials on everyone's turn! No Comet Storm?
3> I would be worried about Vial-Smasher getting nuked from orbit as soon as your turn passes and it's no longer indestructible. You'll find Heroic Intervention and Slippery Bogbonder will help with targeted Exile removal. You already have Destroy and Sacrifice covered I see.
3> I see some cost-reduced and commander-free spells in there, but you have a limited suite. While doing research for my thoughts on Vial-Smasher, I found the following might be helpful - list is just copy/paste, so it will include some White and/or Blue cards:
- 3- Offalsnout (evoke B)
- 3- Rushwood Legate (opponent control island)
- 4- Skyshroud Cutter (control forest, opponents gain life)
- 4- Frogmite (artifacts battlefield)
- 4- Bone Picker (creature dies)
- 4- Briarhorn (evoke 1G)
- 4- Deepwood Legate (opponent control forest)
- 5- Stormwing Entity (cast instant/sorcery)
- 5- Ingot Chewer (evoke R)
- 5- Shriekmaw (evoke 1B)
- 5- Glarewielder (evoke 1R)
- 5- Mulldrifter (evoke 2U)
- 6- Igneous Elemental (land graveyard)
- 6- Nemesis of Mortals (greatures graveyard)
- 6- AEthersnipe (evoke 1UU)
- 6- Spitebellows (evoke 1RR)
- 6- Cloudthresher (evoke 2GG)
- 6- Hooting Mandrills (cards graveyard)
- 6- Ethereal Forager (cards graveyard)
- 6- Soulflayer (cards graveyard)
- 6- Sultai Scavenger (cards graveyard)
- 6- Tasigur, the Golden Fang (cards graveyard)
- 6- Salvage Titan (sacrifice three artifacts)
- 6- Sawtusk Demolisher (creature battlefield)
- 6- Shatterskull Minotaur (party)
- 6- Somber Hoverguard (artifacts battlefield)
- 6- Veteran Adventurer (party)
- 7- Gurmag Angler (cards graveyard)
- 7- Ore-Scale Guardian (lands graveyard)
- 7- Myr Enforcer (artifacts battlefield)
- 7- Cryptic Serpent (instant/sorcery graveyard)
- 7- Gearseeker Serpent (artifacts battlefield)
- 7- Quicksilver Behemoth (artifacts battlefield)
- 7- Dargo, the Shipwrecker (sacrifice artifacts/creatures)
- 7- Mournwhelk (evoke 3B)
- 7- Faultgrinder (evoke 4R)
- 8- Ghoultree (creatures graveyard)
- 8- Avatar of Woe (creatures graveyard)
- 8- Walker of the Grove (evoke 4G)
- 8- Shambling Attendants (cards graveyard)
- 8- Bedlam Reveler (instant/sorcery graveyard)
- 8- Qumulox (artifacts battlefield)
- 9- Molderhulk (creature graveyard)
- 9- Sibsig Muckdraggers (cards graveyard)
- 9- Necropolis Fiend (cards graveyard)
- 10+ Stratadon (basic land types)
- 10+ Primeval Protector (creatures battlefield)
- 10+ Ghalta, Primal Hunger (power of creatures battlefield)
- 10+ Draco (basic land types)
- 10+ The Great Henge (power of creatures battlefield)
- 10+ The Cauldron of Eternity (creatures graveyard)
3> I see some cost-reduced and commander-free spells in there, but you have a limited suite. While doing research for my thoughts on Vial-Smasher, I found the following might be helpful - list is just copy/paste, so it will include some White and/or Blue cards:
- 3- Light Up the Stage (opponent damage)
- 4- Reverent Silence (control forest, opponents gain life)
- 4- Snuff Out (control swamp, pay life)
- 4- Ensnare (return two islands)
- 4- Flameshot (discard mountain)
- 4- Outbreak (discard swamp)
- 4- Snag (discard forest)
- 4- Unmask (black card hand)
- 4- Ravenous Trap (opponent 3 cards enter graveyard)
- 4- Lethargy Trap (three creatures attacking)
- 4- Bolt Bend (4-power creature battlefield)
- 4- Massacre (opponent control plains)
- 4- Refreshing Rain (opponent control swamp)
- 4- Ricochet Trap (opponent cast blue)
- 4- Tentative Connection (menace creature battlefield)
- 4- Drag to the Underworld (devotion to black)
- 4- Snag (discard forest)
- 4- Hagra Mauling  Flip (opponent has no basic lands)
- 4- Price of Fame (targets legend)
- 5- Bounty of the Hunt (green card hand)
- 5- Contagion (black card hand)
- 5- Force of Will (blue card hand)
- 5- Cave-In (red card hand)
- 5- Submerge (opponent control forest)
- 5- Gush (return two islands)
- 5- Misdirection (blue card hand)
- 5- Dark Triumph (sacrifice creature)
- 5- Thoughtcast (artifacts battlefield)
- 5- Murderous Cut (cards graveyard)
- 5- Rite of Undoing (cards graveyard)
- 5- Coveted Prize (party)
- 5- Deadly Alliance (party)
- 5- Baral's Expertise (cast CMC 4 or less)
- 6- Pyrokinesis (red card hand)
- 6- Fireblast (sacrifice two mountains)
- 6- Pulverize (sacrifice two mountains)
- 6- Into Thin Air (artifacts battlefield)
- 6- Tasigur's Cruelty (cards graveyard)
- 6- Spinning Darkness (black cards graveyard)
- 6- Become Immense (cards graveyard)
- 6- Set Adrift (cards graveyard)
- 6- Will of the Naga (cards graveyard)
- 6- Runeflare Trap (opponent drew 3 cards)
- 6- Zahid, Djinn of the Lamp (artifact battlefield)
- 6- Magmatic Sinkhole (cards graveyard)
- 6- Thwart the Grave (party)
- 6- Curtains' Call (per opponent)
- 6- Cobra Trap (noncreature destroyed by opponent)
- 6- Rishkar's Expertise (cast CMC 5 or less)
- 7- Divergent Transformations (per opponent)
- 7- Into the Story (opponent 7+ cards graveyard)
- 7- Assert Authority (artifacts battlefield)
- 7- Seeds of Renewal (per opponent)
- 7- Needlebite Trap (opponent gain life)
- 8- Treasure Cruise (cards graveyard)
- 9- Blasphemous Act (creatures battlefield)
- 10+ Dead Drop (cards graveyard)
- 10+ Volcanic Salvo (power of creatures battlefield) X
- 3- Chord of Calling (untapped creatures battlefield)
Moose-Storm on Party Hearty
3 years ago
KittyFaye I would absolutely love to run that card, unfortunately it violates the conditions needed for Jegantha, the Wellspring. But if you (or anyone else) is looking to build Tazri without Jegantha, Thwart the Grave is a great slot in the 99.
KittyFaye on Party Hearty
3 years ago
Also I just found the card Thwart the Grave. This card seems very good especially like further on into the game.
mobizque on Favorite Mtg Art?
3 years ago
Thwart the Grave has gorgeous coloring, and the art absolutely matches the mechanics of the card. It paints an emotional picture of the party pulling together to save one of its own from the brink.
Epicurus on Party Allegiance
3 years ago
Massacar I added custom categories to the decklist to help with responding to your comment.
First off, Thran Turbine and Training Grounds are excellent suggestions, and I'm going to syft through the list to find room for those two, for sure, when I have time.
As for the other specific suggestions, my creature types are somewhat too varied, so Coat of Arms runs the risk of being more beneficial to my opponents than to me, even with as many allies as are there. And Biomancer's Familiar and Heartstone don't really help the commander all that much (though I will consider them because of their potential to help other creatures).
As for the number of creatures, I'm on the fence. Yes, 46 is a shytload. However, look at the distribution of them in my categories. I only have 9 Warriors, which is less than 10% of the deck, and that's the Party type I have the most of. Having a full party is incredibly helpful for casting the commander, and is furthermore vital for cards like Zagras, Thief of Heartbeats, Thwart the Grave, Spoils of Adventure, Nimble Trapfinder, Ardent Electromancer and Linvala, Shield of Sea Gate, without mentioning the other few party related cards. And while I could make cuts from the list of nonparty allies, doing so detracts from the effectiveness of many of the abilities of the allies, which are dependent on having others around to care about. And the changelings alleviate a lot of what I'm saying here, but I only have 4 of them, and they're the only ones I care to have.
So, in short, I get it. But nearly 50% creature just seems to me to be the way to build around the party mechanic effectively.
ZendikariWol on Did you like zendikar?
3 years ago
I'm actually just excited that Wylie Beckert is getting some work. He's new to the game but I love his art.
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