Mournwhelk

Creature — Elemental

When Mournwhelk enters the battlefield, target player discards two cards.

Evoke (3)(Black) (You may play this spell for its evoke cost. If you do, it's sacrificed when it enters the battlefield.)

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (10)

zamiero on Vial and Ghost!

3 years ago

3> Ahhh I've been wanting to play with Obosh, the Preypiercer and Angrath's Marauders - glad you found a spot for them. While you're at it, you could also consider other "damage doublers" such as Wound Reflection and Fiendish Duo. I've thought about a Vial-Smasher deck with a White partner just to add Gisela, Blade of Goldnight.

3> I see you enjoy big monsters and X-spells here. Oh to be young again... but seriously, this seems like a good deck to play them in as you would be rewarded. Instants are your friend, as you can Smash Vials on everyone's turn! No Comet Storm?

3> I would be worried about Vial-Smasher getting nuked from orbit as soon as your turn passes and it's no longer indestructible. You'll find Heroic Intervention and Slippery Bogbonder will help with targeted Exile removal. You already have Destroy and Sacrifice covered I see.

3> I see some cost-reduced and commander-free spells in there, but you have a limited suite. While doing research for my thoughts on Vial-Smasher, I found the following might be helpful - list is just copy/paste, so it will include some White and/or Blue cards:

• 3- Offalsnout (evoke B)
• 3- Rushwood Legate (opponent control island)
• 4- Skyshroud Cutter (control forest, opponents gain life)
• 4- Frogmite (artifacts battlefield)
• 4- Bone Picker (creature dies)
• 4- Briarhorn (evoke 1G)
• 4- Deepwood Legate (opponent control forest)
• 5- Stormwing Entity (cast instant/sorcery)
• 5- Ingot Chewer (evoke R)
• 5- Shriekmaw (evoke 1B)
• 5- Glarewielder (evoke 1R)
• 5- Mulldrifter (evoke 2U)
• 6- Igneous Elemental (land graveyard)
• 6- Nemesis of Mortals (greatures graveyard)
• 6- AEthersnipe (evoke 1UU)
• 6- Spitebellows (evoke 1RR)
• 6- Cloudthresher (evoke 2GG)
• 6- Hooting Mandrills (cards graveyard)
• 6- Ethereal Forager (cards graveyard)
• 6- Soulflayer (cards graveyard)
• 6- Sultai Scavenger (cards graveyard)
• 6- Tasigur, the Golden Fang (cards graveyard)
• 6- Salvage Titan (sacrifice three artifacts)
• 6- Sawtusk Demolisher (creature battlefield)
• 6- Shatterskull Minotaur (party)
• 6- Somber Hoverguard (artifacts battlefield)
• 6- Veteran Adventurer (party)
• 7- Gurmag Angler (cards graveyard)
• 7- Ore-Scale Guardian (lands graveyard)
• 7- Myr Enforcer (artifacts battlefield)
• 7- Cryptic Serpent (instant/sorcery graveyard)
• 7- Gearseeker Serpent (artifacts battlefield)
• 7- Quicksilver Behemoth (artifacts battlefield)
• 7- Dargo, the Shipwrecker (sacrifice artifacts/creatures)
• 7- Mournwhelk (evoke 3B)
• 7- Faultgrinder (evoke 4R)
• 8- Ghoultree (creatures graveyard)
• 8- Avatar of Woe (creatures graveyard)
• 8- Walker of the Grove (evoke 4G)
• 8- Shambling Attendants (cards graveyard)
• 8- Bedlam Reveler (instant/sorcery graveyard)
• 8- Qumulox (artifacts battlefield)
• 9- Molderhulk (creature graveyard)
• 9- Sibsig Muckdraggers (cards graveyard)
• 9- Necropolis Fiend (cards graveyard)
• 10+ Stratadon (basic land types)
• 10+ Primeval Protector (creatures battlefield)
• 10+ Ghalta, Primal Hunger (power of creatures battlefield)
• 10+ Draco (basic land types)
• 10+ The Great Henge (power of creatures battlefield)
• 10+ The Cauldron of Eternity (creatures graveyard)

3> I see some cost-reduced and commander-free spells in there, but you have a limited suite. While doing research for my thoughts on Vial-Smasher, I found the following might be helpful - list is just copy/paste, so it will include some White and/or Blue cards:

• 3- Light Up the Stage (opponent damage)
• 4- Reverent Silence (control forest, opponents gain life)
• 4- Snuff Out (control swamp, pay life)
• 4- Ensnare (return two islands)
• 4- Flameshot (discard mountain)
• 4- Outbreak (discard swamp)
• 4- Snag (discard forest)
• 4- Unmask (black card hand)
• 4- Ravenous Trap (opponent 3 cards enter graveyard)
• 4- Lethargy Trap (three creatures attacking)
• 4- Bolt Bend (4-power creature battlefield)
• 4- Massacre (opponent control plains)
• 4- Refreshing Rain (opponent control swamp)
• 4- Ricochet Trap (opponent cast blue)
• 4- Tentative Connection (menace creature battlefield)
• 4- Drag to the Underworld (devotion to black)
• 4- Snag (discard forest)
• 4- Hagra Mauling  ^Flip (opponent has no basic lands)
• 4- Price of Fame (targets legend)
• 5- Bounty of the Hunt (green card hand)
• 5- Contagion (black card hand)
• 5- Force of Will (blue card hand)
• 5- Cave-In (red card hand)
• 5- Submerge (opponent control forest)
• 5- Gush (return two islands)
• 5- Misdirection (blue card hand)
• 5- Dark Triumph (sacrifice creature)
• 5- Thoughtcast (artifacts battlefield)
• 5- Murderous Cut (cards graveyard)
• 5- Rite of Undoing (cards graveyard)
• 5- Coveted Prize (party)
• 5- Deadly Alliance (party)
• 5- Baral's Expertise (cast CMC 4 or less)
• 6- Pyrokinesis (red card hand)
• 6- Fireblast (sacrifice two mountains)
• 6- Pulverize (sacrifice two mountains)
• 6- Into Thin Air (artifacts battlefield)
• 6- Tasigur's Cruelty (cards graveyard)
• 6- Spinning Darkness (black cards graveyard)
• 6- Become Immense (cards graveyard)
• 6- Set Adrift (cards graveyard)
• 6- Will of the Naga (cards graveyard)
• 6- Runeflare Trap (opponent drew 3 cards)
• 6- Zahid, Djinn of the Lamp (artifact battlefield)
• 6- Magmatic Sinkhole (cards graveyard)
• 6- Thwart the Grave (party)
• 6- Curtains' Call (per opponent)
• 6- Cobra Trap (noncreature destroyed by opponent)
• 6- Rishkar's Expertise (cast CMC 5 or less)
• 7- Divergent Transformations (per opponent)
• 7- Into the Story (opponent 7+ cards graveyard)
• 7- Assert Authority (artifacts battlefield)
• 7- Seeds of Renewal (per opponent)
• 7- Needlebite Trap (opponent gain life)
• 8- Treasure Cruise (cards graveyard)
• 9- Blasphemous Act (creatures battlefield)
• 10+ Dead Drop (cards graveyard)
• 10+ Volcanic Salvo (power of creatures battlefield)
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• 3- Chord of Calling (untapped creatures battlefield)

DaitokujiAmnael on Death is For Other Colors

4 years ago

Also if you want some removal and disruption, Evoke cards like Shriekmaw and Mournwhelk will give you twice the etb triggers.

VietMoneys on

5 years ago

You won't feel so sexy when I use it and Heartstone to cheat out Herald of Leshrac and Mournwhelk for no mana, KittenPetter!

Firebones675 on Liliana's Sadistic Desires

7 years ago

I've found Magus of the Abyss to be decent for crowd control and to flip lili. Also a lot cheaper than The Abyss, the card it was based on. Also an evoked Shriekmaw can flip lili. So can the pother black evoke creatures ( Offalsnout/Mournwhelk)

ironmindraph on Freedom By Death (Mikaeus RIX updated)

7 years ago

GolgariGravePact Thank for the Mournwhelk suggestion.After some tries I just officially added it to the deck and he's here to stay.

DaftVader on Build Your Own Dragon (Pauper Exhume)

7 years ago

What about Mournwhelk? If you evoke it before reanimating it, that means that they have to deal with it with four less cards, and with the evoke cost it's easy to get into the graveyard.

singood on Esper Evoke

7 years ago

Hey Cony, thanks for the suggestions.

Augur of Skullsis a definitely a better card than Mournwhelk in a vacuum, but is capable of bigger plays by forcing a discard-4 while sticking around as a reasonable 3/3. On the other hand, Augur is much better when cast by itself, so some combination of the two is probably what I'll go with.

I have no argument for your other card suggestions. Barrens is a strict upgrade and Angler is powerful enough it can be fit in without much synergy needed.

As for the change in shell, you might be on to something but that might be a challenge for another deck. This is really a mid-rangey Orzhov deck splashing blue just because Mulldrifter is an insane card. Something like Condescend could potentially work with the mana but doesn't seem all that great even coming from the sideboard.

triproberts12 on

8 years ago

Yep. Grinning Ignus is a great combo engine, but it needs a supportive shell. I can see the deck going a very different direction with a black control shell using Mournwhelk and some janky Grinning Ignus combo (Although the deck already feels pretty janky, especially when you're playing against something OP like Delver).