Command the Dreadhorde
Choose any number of target creature and/or planeswalker cards in graveyards. Command the Dreadhorde deals damage to you equal to the total converted mana cost of those cards. Put them onto the battlefield under your control.
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Command the Dreadhorde Discussion
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3 weeks ago
Last couple topics,
I made an assumption and grouped Draw above Damage, and Deathtouch above Token.
Deathtouch 16%, Control 16%, Damage/Life 15%, Recursion 8%, Token 6%, Draw 6%, Discard 2%, Ramp 2%, Land 29%
Further on Card Advantage (which includes draw):
I know why your doing it and the thought process behind it, but here's an alternative perspective.
Your cards like Blood Divination , Costly Plunder , Pitiless Pontiff , Bone Splinters , Final Payment , Severed Strands , Spark Harvest are usually paired with LTB effect (like your damage/life and afterlife abilities), more along lines of Grave Pact (Also Dictate of Erebos , Butcher of Malakir , Dark Prophecy , Nightmare Shepherd , Etc.) or Reveillark / Academy Rector types.
The issue is Blood Divination why not Necropotence ( Greed ) for CMC1 less, and no sacrifice, let's you refill your hand anytime, Grim Haruspex /Etc. Why Spark Harvest / Bone Splinters over Swords to Plowshares or Path to Exile or Mortify or even Bloodchief's Thirst / Generous Gift if your after planeswalkers.
So how are creatures getting into the graveyard, if your not sacrificing them along with other effects, a value engine!! Skullclamp is a necessity, Viscera Seer is strong, Phyrexian Altar (this card is cEDH level though), more things like Priest of Forgotten Gods & Ayara, First of Locthwain . Why sacrifice a deathtouch creature to LTB damage/life when you can Corpse Knight instead and get the value up front? Yahenni, Undying Partisan , Village Rites is ok because its CMC1 and Instant, you don't need tutor in battlecruiser/low (up to power 5), but cards like Diabolic Intent which also feed into things like Mausoleum Secrets are value. Ashnod's Altar , Doom Foretold , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , etc.
Key is value in / value out. Don't waste the value out just to enable your recursion. Value-in, Value-out, then recur. More Immortal Servitude (battlefield), less Soul Salvage (hand). Reanimate / Animate Dead (anyone's graveyards), Unburial Rites , Victimize , Agadeem's Awakening Flip, Revival / Revenge , Command the Dreadhorde , Blood for Bones .
Kinda touched on it, in previous. Control 16% is quite a bit, inline with power level. If you replace Ashen Rider , Bone Splinters , Final Payment , Severed Strands , Spark Harvest . Some should become the "sac outlets", like Skullclamp / Viscera Seer and some just better interactions (Instant speed whenever possible). Anguished Unmaking , Utter End , Swords to Plowshares , Merciless Eviction , Plaguecrafter / Demon's Disciple (Better Fleshbag Marauder unless your utilizing the Zombie part), Shriekmaw , Path to Exile , Generous Gift , Deadly Rollick , Dire Tactics , Hagra Mauling Flip, Unmake there's lots.
If you want to jump on a teams chat or anything when you have some time happy to help, just discord chat me, hopefully something that helps you focus this deck to a 4-5
3 weeks ago
Here is an interesting article on lands (CMC0 Artifacts are lands) https://edhrec.com/articles/superior-numbers-land-counts/
Topic: Card Advantage! (There's lots of discussion on this if you search it, it can be a bit complicated, but ultimately, it means playing more cards than your opponent, in this deck, bringing multiple creatures back again and again is a way, draw is key, you don't ever want an empty hand)
Staying on theme with draw:
Skullclamp is going to be a necessity with your afterlife mechanic and hopefully a Teysa Karlov . Turn creature advantage into card advantage (yes Teysa Karlov make 2x spirits for afterlife 1, and then draws 4! cards when it dies).
Grim Haruspex is a common way to get some draw in and very well suited.
Viscera Seer is another way to get advantage, protect creatures from being exiled or stolen, as well as turn creature advantage into scry and hopefully draw with another ability on-board. This also means if you have recursion in hand but nothing to target, you can make a target.
Village Rites can be ok, if you're holding recursion to, or in response to someone unfavorably blocking your creature or if you just need to dig for an answer. It's not my favorite because its one-shot though.
Midnight Reaper is another way to utilize your deathtouch to remove opponents creatures and refill your hand.
There are some other guys, maybe not within your deathtouch theme, so maybe not right for you Reassembling Skeleton , Bloodghast (kind of like a Soul Stair Expedition effect but on a creature. Check out this deck for more guys like this, Yawgmoth Thran Physician EDH, if interested.
There's also some ways to utilize your life total to draw, Bolas's Citadel is amazing (can win games or get you back in them), Necropotence (it's really good if you've never used it, Greed or Arguel's Blood Fast Flip (crappy greed). You have some draw, Eg. Priest of Forgotten Gods , but I would get at minimum 8 draw mechanics into the deck, staying on theme, up to 12 is even good.
Liliana, Dreadhorde General does this pretty good too, and has a nice ultimate but is pricey ($20?), Phyrexian Arena is a classic ($12), Avoid anything with an activation costs on a triggered ability like Mentor of the Meek (static like Greed is ok).
Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord really fits your recursion theme, think he like $2 now, he doesn't draw cards, but gives all your guys lifelink and allows you to recur multiple creatures, and has lifelink himself for the +2 pinging ability.
This sort of led into another Topic: Winning
The most common way for to win is Gray Merchant of Asphodel and recurring him, multiple times. Torment of Hailfire is nice, but you need much more land/ramp. Command the Dreadhorde is really strong too, if you can get a little bit extra life and have protected your life with your deathtouch, can get a bunch of strong/deathtouch back for relatively low life, even hits opponents graveyard.
Not sure i like the payoff for God-Pharaoh's Statue by the time you get there, your opponents will have ramped ( especially) enough mana to pay it.
Archetype of Finality is also not a great payoff for the mana cost, I would rather Command the Dreadhorde or Bolas's Citadel anytime. Plus many of your creatures have or can get deathtouch by themselves.
Just replace some key payoffs and you'll find your high CMC spell require a response from other players. Lots of ways to get there, whatever you like based on the theme.
I'll do one more post tomorrow with some other specific card evals, but quite a bit there. Trying to recommend some cuts as well as I go, I know it can be just as difficult deciding what to cut as it is for what to play.
Staying Low-Mid (battlecruiser/low) means you probably dont need a tutor package, but I'll give some ideas on the interaction package which you'll still need to answer some things your opponents are doing. Check back later. Happy reading :)
2 months ago
CyanideSuicide017 I don't play Karmic Guide + Reveillark for the same reason I don't play Sanguine Bond + Exquisite Blood , Revel in Riches + Smothering Tithe , or anything with Nim Deathmantle . These cards cost a lot of mana and aren't great without the other combo piece(s). Karmic guide can only reanimate one creature with an ETB, and Reveillark only targets creatures with power 2 or less. I have much more efficient reanimation like Victimize , Living Death , and Command the Dreadhorde . Since they're individually underwhelming, their real draw is the combo you mentioned. For the combo itself, it it's not very efficient since it costs a total of 10 mana for both cards plus additional mana for a sac outlet and a card that wins the game off of looping. The infinite combos I have in the deck all function off of cards that are already efficient on their own. These are the reasons I don't play either, but if you think they'd be interesting, you could give it a shot. It seems like a fun combo, and who knows, it could be better than I'm giving it credit for.
For cheap black card draw, I probably should play Sign in Blood , and Night's Whisper . I haven't put them in thus far because they're boring. I like the potential of being able to draw a million cards off of Dark Prophecy and how it becomes a part of an engine rather than going for the more consistent approach. The deck is also pretty slow combo-wise as most combos require 3+ cards. In slower metas, we get more out of Dark Prophecy like effects. If you're up against decks that win a lot faster than Teysa, Sign in Blood and Night's Whisper get better. I might end up replacing Dark Prophecy and something like Liliana, Dreadhorde General or Solemn Simulacrum with those two somewhere down the line. It depends on if my meta shifts or if I want to change the direction of the deck a bit.
2 months ago
On my quest to also build a tinybones deck, I found some of the cards below that have really been an asset to me. Maybe they could help you out too.
Instant Speed Discard Cards: _(Allows you to force them to discard on their turn, so you can get a draw trigger then too.)
- Necrogen Spellbomb , Funeral Charm , Black Cat / Mindslicer / Elvish Doomsayer like cards, that discourage people from attacking you while also possibly making them discard on their turn, Nezumi Shortfang Flip (also has a special second flipside ability), Torment of Scarabs (they have to really screw themselves over every turn unless they discard), Cry of Contrition (can be sort of like a bounty, taxing someone when the creature dies which can be on someone else's turn), Unmask , Greel, Mind Raker , Gibbering Descent
multimedia on Varina
2 months ago
Hey, have more confidence in your deck building because this is a fine start on a low budget if it's your second deck.
You already have Wonder which is good since it's the card I suggest the most that players add with Varina. My advice is focus more on Zombies and cards that can support Zombie tribal. More Zombies, less nonZombie creatures.
Budget cards all less than $1 each to consider adding:
- Lord of the Accursed
- Wayward Servant
- Etchings of the Chosen
- Midnight Reaper
- Carrion Feeder
- Silversmote Ghoul
- Changeling Outcast: Changelings are Zombies.
- Nevinyrral, Urborg Tyrant
- Tormod, the Desecrator
- Eternal Taskmaster
- Tomebound Lich
- Binding Mummy
- Corpse Knight
Amass is an effect that creates a Zombie token.
Consider more cards that require you use life because Varina is a life gaining engine with Zombies.
- Caves of Koilos
- Talisman of Hierarchy
- Command the Dreadhorde
- Feed the Swarm
- Malakir Rebirth Flip
- Read the Bones
- Dire Tactics
Next step is to add 35 more lands to have a manabase to playtest. Get a temporary manabase in place with basic lands to see how many spots you have left to fill with nonland cards or how many nonland cards to cut. Make sure that basic Swamps are the most lands because you need black mana the most with Zombies.
Some budget lands $1-$2 or less each to consider adding:
- Command Tower
- Unclaimed Territory
- Path of Ancestry
- Exotic Orchard
- Arcane Sanctum
- Caves of Koilos
- Sunken Hollow: Island for Wonder.
- Prairie Stream: Island for Wonder.
- Ice Tunnel: Island for Wonder.
- Irrigated Farmland: Island for Wonder.
- Tainted Field
- Esper Panorama
- Ash Barrens
- Evolving Wilds
- Witch's Cottage
Good luck with your deck.
3 months ago
I have a Malfegor deck!
He's better off as a utility piece in your command zone rather than trying to build the deck around him. I play it as a synergy through discard deck. Pretty much all the Megrim effects, wheels in Rackdos colors, and a reanimator package (Reanimate, Animate Dead, Necromancy, Dance of the Dead, and Command the Dreadhorde). The World gorger Dragon combo makes a decent win condition. My favorite synergy in the deck is between Avaricious Dragon and Ghirapur Orrery :D