- 1x Craterhoof Behemoth
- 1x Drove of Elves
- 1x Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen
- 1x Eladamri, Lord of Leaves
- 1x Elvish Archdruid
- 1x Elvish Champion
- 1x Elvish Harbinger
- 1x Elvish Mystic
- 1x Elvish Piper
- 1x Elvish Visionary
- 1x Fauna Shaman
- 1x Fierce Empath
- 1x Fyndhorn Elves
- 1x Gaea's Herald
- 1x Glissa Sunseeker
- 1x Heedless One
- 1x Heritage Druid
- 1x Immaculate Magistrate
- 1x Imperious Perfect
- 1x Jagged-Scar Archers
- 1x Joraga Treespeaker
- 1x Joraga Warcaller
- 1x Llanowar Elves
- 1x Masked Admirers
- 1x Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip
- 1x Oracle of Mul Daya
- 1x Priest of Titania
- 1x Regal Force
- 1x Seedborn Muse
- 1x Seeker of Skybreak
- 1x Skyshroud Poacher
- 1x Talara's Battalion
- 1x Timberwatch Elf
- 1x Vigor
- 1x Wellwisher
- 1x Wirewood Channeler
- 1x Wren's Run Packmaster
- 1x Yeva, Nature's Herald
- 1x Boseiju, Who Shelters All
- 1x Buried Ruin
- 1x Cavern of Souls
- 1x Dryad Arbor
- 21x Forest
- 1x Gaea's Cradle
- 1x Maze of Ith
- 1x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
- 1x Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers
- 1x Pendelhaven
- 1x Reliquary Tower
- 1x Wirewood Lodge
- 1x Yavimaya Hollow
- 1x Collective Unconscious
- 1x Genesis Wave
- 1x Green Sun's Zenith
- 1x Natural Order
- 1x Praetor's Counsel
- 1x Shamanic Revelation
- 1x Sylvan Scrying
- 1x Tooth and Nail
- 1x Aluren
- 1x Asceticism
- 1x Hall of Gemstone
- 1x Mana Reflection
- 1x Mirri's Guile
- 1x Song of the Dryads
- 1x Sylvan Library
- 1x Aetherflux Reservoir
- 1x Bow of Nylea
- 1x Coat of Arms
- 1x Creeping Renaissance
- 1x Defense Grid
- 1x Dryad Arbor
- 1x Helix Pinnacle
- 1x Karametra's Acolyte
- 1x Lurking Predators
- 1x Nissa Revane
- 1x Nullmage Shepherd
- 1x Primal Surge
- 1x Reclamation Sage
- 1x Rishkar, Peema Renegade
- 1x Slate of Ancestry
- 1x Sylvan Messenger
- 1x Taunting Elf
- 1x Umbral Mantle
- 1x Wirewood Symbiote
Check out my Renegade Leader Deck
Hope it gives you some ideas!
April 26, 2017 7:27 a.m.
Hexbringer0 you got a pretty solid deck!! en yes it gave my some good ideas :)Tnx..
April 26, 2017 10:18 a.m.
April 26, 2017 11:27 a.m.
Also Karametra's Acolyte is great for more mana in elf commander
April 26, 2017 11:29 a.m.
This deck needs Copperhorn Scout as it rewards aggressive play and allows you to attack with and tap mana dorks for mana as well as provide a pseudo vigilance for defense. All this for turning it sideways and doing what aggro elves love best.
April 27, 2017 5:21 a.m.
Sword of the Paruns and Umbral Mantle provide infinite mana from any elf that can tap for +. Umbral Mantle is able to make creatures arbitrary huge with its +2/+2 untap effect, although with infinite mana its redundant with Ezuri, Renegade Leader's elvish overrun.
Wirewood Symbiote Should be considered for replaying elves like Reclamation Sage and Elvish Visionary. It main draw in my opinion is the ability to protect key elves from exile spot removal or bounce Ezuri in response to spot removal or board wipes, after regenerating other elves of course.
Another good add would be Yavimaya Hollow as its good protection for your commander.
I would also add Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury over Garruk, Caller of Beasts. She gives you token creatures that synergize with the deck, destroys enchantment and artifacts and can draw a lot of cards in this deck.
Triumph of the Hordes May be worth looking at since, all you need is 10 infect, that is 5 unblocked 1/1 elves to kill someone.
If you are looking for an additional win condition that does not involve combat you may consider Helix Pinnacle.
April 27, 2017 5:54 a.m.
April 27, 2017 3:23 p.m.
@ Gadianten those are all great options you gave me. I'll give it a try, Tnx
April 27, 2017 3:26 p.m.
@zulu2k yeah the Aetherflux Resevoir is more for a little bit of fun since you have so much life gain, and it can be pretty entertaining in a long Commander game
April 27, 2017 4:47 p.m.
Karametra's Acolyte should be in here, since you are so permanent-heavy in this deck. It'd give you another practical copy of Priest of Titania/Elvish Archdruid/Wirewood Channeler.
In similar vein, Regal Force is a Collective Unconscious you can tutor in green, so I'd highly recommend it. My wife absolutely adores Vigor in her Elf Commander deck, as it basically allows her to rule combat as well as protects against Blasphemous Act and other damage-based sweeps.
No Green Sun's Zenith seems like a bad call. You can add Dryad Arbor so you have t1 ramp without a Llanowar Elves, but it also grabs literally any other creature in the deck for their mana cost + 1, which is superb. Fierce Empath should be in here as well, as it'd let you grab Regal Force or Craterhoof for turns you need gas or want to swing for the win.
Also, is there a reason you're running Collective Unconscious over a repeatable draw engine like Slate of Ancestry?
Also, since you're using Ezuri as your Commander and (hopefully will) have Karametra's Acolyte join your force of multi-mana producers, you need to run Umbral Mantle. Generating infinite mana with the Mantle is good for your deck since your Commander is an infinite mana sink- simply untap all of your creatures and swing for 10k/10k on each creature, etc..
Cards I believe you could drop pretty easily:
Glistener Elf. You're not an infect deck, and having 1 creature that deals a completely different type of damage from all of your other creatures is a horrible idea. If he's big enough to kill someone on his own, you most likely landed Craterhoof or Coat of Arms, which means he is dwarfed by the rest of your army anyway (so he's either worthless of win more, is what I'm saying). Triumph of the Hordes is a little different as it turns all of your creatures into an infect-dealing army, but again, no synergy with Glistener Elf. You can do better than this card, really.
Elvish Soultiller is pretty awful. I would just run Eldrazi Monument which, for the same mana cost, prevents your creatures from dying to begin with, rather than shuffling them into your library and hoping for them later since you don't have reliable sac outlets.
Mul Daya Channelers is pretty mediocre. A Fyndhorn Elder that may not even produce mana when you need it (+3/+3 is hardly anything in Commander)- you can do a lot better with Fierce Empath or Green Sun's Zenith in that slot, I believe (Zenith would allow you to go get Priest of Titania for the same cost as Mul Daya Channelers, while you could pay 1 extra mana and get Archdruid to give +1/+1 to four or more creatures, eclipsing Channeler's +3 buff).
I'd pick either one or the other in Aetherflux or Helix Pinnacle. They don't play well with one another (so if you draw the other while playing, one of the two cards is completely dead). This would allow you to run another tutor, Umbral Mantle, Regal Force, etc., in the slot so you could more reliably win via Ezuri or find the combo piece to begin with in the case of Regal Force.
May 9, 2017 11:55 p.m.
i'll take youre tips to heart en put them in the deck and take out the others you named. im verry curious how it wil work out:)
May 10, 2017 9:36 a.m.
May 12, 2017 1:01 a.m.
@tadium54 those are indeed good options and i did play them before but i needed to make some choises end they didn't make it. :)
May 18, 2017 3 p.m.
So how would this deck play out you say? As in is it very combo heavy or can you usually just run out elves, after gauging whether a board wipe is incoming (probably for your stuff), and run over people? Also do you care how you run them over? Such as indirect damage or Overrun with creatures only? Feelings on alternate win cons?
May 23, 2017 11:57 a.m.
@TheRedGoat This deck is all about the creatures with help from the artifacs and enchantments.
The goals is to get as many elves out give them +X+X and trample and attack.This isnt so much a combo deck, but a couple of elves an a Priest of Titania for example + Staff of Domination gives infenite mana.
Genesis Wave is in the most cases also a game winner because every permanent i draw goes onto the battlefield..also Aetherflux Reservoir does the trick with the right card in play such as Nissa Revane and Wellwisher, but thats more of a gimmick
ofcourse bordwipe is a problem but there are multiple ways for me to regenerate and i alway keep some mana untapped so i can regenerate the most important creatures. (exept Wrath of God and such)
The thing is that it always play out, i'm not going to say that this deck is perfect but this deck wins allot. I cant arm myself against everything en there will be decks who will destroy mine.
Becaus 95% of this deck is low cmc it goes realy fast.. I could realy go into details but my english writing isnt that good hahaha
Go play test it.. you will see..
hope i explained it a bit, if not.. just tell me and ill grab a good cup a coffee and do my best
May 23, 2017 4:38 p.m.
Honestly what you describe sounds pretty standard when compared to the Elf deck I've been facing myself. Including the "plays itself" part. I guess I just wondered if you had ways to change how the deck plays, but if you're not interested in doing that then you should check out Throne of the God-Pharaoh. I'm a little clueless where to cut unless you dropped maybe Illusionist's Bracers?
May 23, 2017 5 p.m.
TheRedGoat ofcourse i'm interested in more ways to play and win this deck, but it realy must be a fast and good one.I think this deck does what a mono green elf deck is supposed to do.
If you have any suggestions or see something i dont see feel free to tell me.. Im alway looking for improvement :)
May 24, 2017 1:59 p.m.
I forgot to unsubscribe from the thread so I kept getting notifications, lol, but I did realize something else I can suggest:
Is there a reason you're using Glissa Sunseeker over Reclamation Sage? Sage destroys something ASAP, which is important to not have to wait for summoning sickness if you're against something like, say, Arcum Dagsson, because you will most likely need to blow something up if you hope to get to your fourth turn (my Arcum deck consistently goes off and ends games on my turn 3 or 4, so you should at least be able to pop something before then). The more ways to stop uninteractive combos that can win early, the better, right? I get that Glissa is reusable, but if your deck wins relatively consistently between turns 6-8 (when I goldfished your deck in the playtester, that seemed to be a fair estimate) then I don't see the need for something to be reusable and only hit artifacts, not enchantments (when there are some enchantments that royally screw your strategy that need to be destroyed ASAP, too).
Heck, Nullmage Shepherd is one I consistently like better than Glissa. Capable of destroying artifacts and enchantments, and does so relatively well even through wraths in Commander (as 3 other creatures isn't really a difficult metric to meet).
So I'd suggest one of those above Glissa, for sure. Rec Sage is the fastest option of the bunch, though.
Also, I just thought I'd bring something up real quick: I playtested your deck twice and both times Sylvan Messenger whiffed pretty hard (it bottoming Craterhoof hurts). It can only put some out of 33 cards of your deck into your hand, which means there is a decent chance of only grabbing one card off of it at most. Natural Order is the same cost and just lets you go grab whatever big thing you want (my wife usually gets Regal Force, Vigor, or Craterhoof with it, but there can be times when grabbing another card is the better play).
Actually, Natural Order might be better to replace Nissa Revane, as you're not even running Nissa's Chosen anymore (I swear it was in here when I checked last) and life gain for 5 turns into a sixth turn ultimate (which takes until turn 10(!!) at minimum) is pretty bad. Or, at least Garruk, Caller of Beasts or something that actually helps your board state the turns you cast it, unlike Nissa which has to make it through six turns just to ultimate. Garruk/Natural Order would help you find more easily abused sources of lifegain (like Wellwisher + untaps) if you want to kill via Resevoir, while Nissa just seems overall mediocre right now.
May 24, 2017 4:55 p.m.
Glad you sticked arround:)
Yes i whas having doubts about glissa and recsage, as i encouter allot of artifact decks at the moment glissa lookt a the better option..Natural order is definitely going to be added en i wil also replace nissa.
Im looking for some additional wincons, i tried Helix Pinnacle but it didint work for me.Now in trying aetherflux but still having my doubts about that.
The biggest problem i encouter is (yes offcourse) bord wipe.. I added Hall of Gemstone and i am thinking about adding a Winter Orb to slow down ny opponents.. I also played Defense Grid but that could backfire so i removed it.
Do you have any suggestions to counter or recover fast for bordwipes?
You are als right about Sylvan Messenger she whas already removed but forgot to update the deck list.
May 25, 2017 5:43 p.m.
Against board wipes, I mentioned Eldrazi Monument up above and its in your maybeboard. Monument is a great way around Wrath of God and its ilk, and even if someone activates a Nevinyrral's Disk, Monument will get destroyed but all of your creatures won't be destroyed by the Disk since, at the moment of its activation, they had indestructible.
Back when my wife first started in Commander, we tried everything from Cauldron of Souls to Kamahl, Fist of Krosa (you turn opponent's lands into creatures so the opponent who cast the wipe screws themselves over. They will then think twice about casting a Wrath with him on board for the rest of their time playing Magic haha). We even used Oran-Rief, the Vastwood with Cauldron to make a Wrath-resistant board state. We wound up eventually dropping Cauldron when her deck got built up well enough to t4-t5 tables, but it's an option.
I think Monument is probably the most elegant solution (the +1/+1 and flying bonuses are usually pretty huge too), though I will say I have cast a Chord of Calling into Caller of the Claw far more times than I feel anyone should have done, and it usually winds up allowing me to chunk the life total of the guy who cast the board wipe, if not kill him.
Praetor's Council is one of the cards that my wife's Elf deck dropped early on, because while it was okay when you had Elves, most of the time you needed it, it's because of a board wipe, and it's extremely hard to get 8 mana when your mana Elves are in the graveyard. Creeping Renaissance might be an idea since it is far easier to meet with 33 lands than an 8 mana spell is and, essentially, will do the same job (outside of the Spellbook ability, but you already run Reliquary Tower so you have that effect if you need it).
Those're my suggestions: Eldrazi Monument or Creeping Renaissance. Elves are always going to be a little soft to board wipes, especially those that mass-exile. There isn't really a lot you can do about those in green outside of keeping your opponents from reaching six mana before you can kill them.
May 25, 2017 6:19 p.m.
So Caller of the Claw is by no means wrath protection, but is it noteworthy as a wrath insurance? Like having Evolutionary Leap or Perilous Forays and just sacking your board in response to a board wipe. Even better if you ran Fecundity.
If nothing else Heroic Intervention is a thing now. :P
May 25, 2017 11:17 p.m.
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This deck is Commander / EDH legal.
|Tokens||1/1 Elf Druid, 4/4 Elemental, 1/1 Elf Warrior, 2/2 Wolf, Garruk|
|Folders||EDH, Reference, elf command, Commander Decks, Future Decks|
|Top rank||#25 on 2017-05-16|
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