Elvish Piper

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Masters 25 (A25) None
2010 Core Set (M10) Rare
Tenth Edition (10E) Rare
Ninth Edition (9ED) Rare
Ninth Edition Foreign Black Border (9EDFBB) Rare
Eighth Edition (8ED) Rare
Seventh Edition (7ED) Rare
Urza's Destiny (UDS) Rare

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Elvish Piper

Creature — Elf Shaman

{{G}}, Tap: You may put a creature card from your hand onto the battlefield.

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Elvish Piper Discussion

goldlion on Google Ghave, Search Engine of Doom *Help Wanted*

5 days ago

Good point Abzkaban. I think this might be something we build to it's optimum for Ghave... Then it could be Muldrotha's turn down the road.

Here's what I'm thinking with the "Temptations" - there's two reasons why I included them: 1) flavour 2) the value.

But there's some interesting questions to discuss here.

Tha value lays in the fact that they are, I think, considerably cheap for their effects because they have a downside... the opponent gets to search. For example, Settle the Wreckage is pretty wild as a 4 cost instant board wipe for a single person, but that's cause they get to replace every exiled creature with a land - however, with Ob Nixilis out it's less likely people will want to search their library. Same with Assassin's Trophy. And to tap a forest and X mana to get X land? pretty good, except opponents get to get land as well with New Frontiers, unless they don't want to take that 10 damage. But this is where it gets tricky and makes me wonder if the value might not actually be there.

  • With New Frontiers, how low a land amount would people not pay 10 life for? I think in the first 3/4 of the game, and depending on life total, opponents would probably be willing to pay 10 life for even just 3 land. But I get 3 land as well, so if we get equal land advantage and all my opponents lose 10 life, I guess that's alright.
  • Settle the Wreckage could be too much of a mana advantage in exchange for the loss of 10 life.... It seems best if I use it on my own mass tokens? ohhhhh LANDFALL TRIGGERS!! pretty good in that case (thinking out loud). And I can cast it AFTER they do damage... Or if they are attacking with a couple voltrons... Or exile opponents mass attacking creatures with Aven Mindcensor out. And It's good when it gets to that round where everyone is about to win, soan opponent getting a bunch of tapped land on the battlefield doesn't matter if they are missing out on their big attack and passing the turn.
  • Weird Harvest would be pretty ballzy, but then again so is Maralen of the Mornsong, but that's where Aven Mindcensor comes in.
  • Ghost Quarter is just a good utility land against those power lands.
  • Oath of Lieges didn't even make it into my test-pilot deck
  • Path to Exile is just good
  • Assassin's Trophy is just good

I do agree that they could go to make room in the deck. Which one do you think would be worth removing? I'd say Weird Harvest perhaps, though I could see it turning out well, especially with the cheats like Elvish Piper and Deathrender in play, the flicker type effects, etc... but perhaps too conditional?

ThoAlmighty on Sunbird's Shoal

6 days ago

The reason I'm trying to use Sunbird's Invocation is partly because I've never seen it done before, but slamming a T4 one with the help of Overgrowth, or even T3 with Arbor Elf and Utopia Sprawl, seems absurdly strong. While there are other ways to cheat on CMC, Shoals seem the most consistent, and being able to gain 15 life or redirect up to 15 damage in a pinch isn't bad either. But what makes SI so strong is that you don't need the shoal to resolve, and if I'm hitting eldrazi (I was thinking Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, and Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger) I get immediate cast value, and a Kozilek might just draw me into doing it again. It seems insanely explosive at it's best and merely slow at it's worst. Slow can be a death sentence in modern, but I think it's still feasible. I think Elvish Piper and Through the Breach are too easy to interrupt. Yeah, I get hosed by Grafdigger's Cage but most people are running Relic instead of it. I like the idea of having early control pieces once I've played my elves and birds, Trinisphere seems good there.

I'm putting together a list, that I'll link here soon. Anyway, thank you all for your suggestions, I'll try and get back to all of you when I have time!

RedmundR2 on Sunbird's Shoal

6 days ago

I'm going to echo some of the great points brought up here. The biggest problem with combos in modern that require multiple cards and high cmc is that theyre typically too slow and draw dependent to be viable outside of a very casual decklist playgroup. If you do want to make combos like this work, my recommendation would be to play a very control-heavy list with lots of draw. Usually I'd recommend running blue for counters and draw and white for single removal, but since your combos are requiring green and red from what i gather, it would be tough to include 4 colors but isnt impossible.

I do like the convoke/improvise/mana cheating approach as well. To be honest, if your goal is to cheat big things into play quickly and the method isnt as important, there are faster and less card/mana intensive ways to do it. Personally i'd rather try an Elvish Piper list than use Sunbird's Invocation or something similar, even though Elvish Piper is also pretty bad.

If you want to get big eldrazi and the like out quickly in modern, the most efficient ways to do it are the tried and true methods of either Tron, or just pure mono-g ramp decks IMO. Wall ramp in particular is a pet strategy of mine, one of the win-cons is ramping very quickly into stuff like Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger which you might also enjoy playing. This Sunbird's Invocation card to me seems exceptionally weak for modern, and will be very tough to make work. Like I mentioned earlier if I was trying to make this individual card work, I would make take a strong jeskai control list and change out the wincons for the combo.

Shrazik on Reveling in the Fray

1 week ago

I do happen yo own most of these cards. I very much like the idea of swinging with a 10/8 double striking Putrefax. And Elvish Piper or Quicksilver Amulet could serve as surprise block droppers. Unfortunately I don't own Sneak Attack or Ghalta, Primal Hunger. I definitely want them in here though. Will try to squeeze some of these in here. Thanks for the feedback.

hkhssweiss on Reveling in the Fray

1 week ago

In a deck where might makes right Ruric Thar, the Unbowed should be in here! Also for more shits and giggles, Putrefax is a OHKO! Usually no one sees that coming haha! Ghalta, Primal Hunger also would work great and WILL terrify people! Blood Mist is also a FRIGHTENING card that will make anyone say "oh shit..." Bane of Progress is there for all the heathens who don't like getting one punched!

Also additional utility cards to be considered would be Elvish Piper or Quicksilver Amulet for the surprise drop, or if you want to be even sneakier there are cards like Vedalken Orrery and Sneak Attack for that element of BURST SMACK before you sac them into a Momentous Fall for that card draw doe.

Hope that helps!

hkhssweiss on The Revenge of the Titans

1 week ago

Eldrazi cards that can be considered to be cut or swapped:

Addition:

Cut:

You are pretty much running all the good costed Eldrazi, nothing more to add in as you will clog your deck too much. You rather have a few key Eldrazi and ways to accelerate and cheat them out rather than having your hand full of them. Other ways you can cheat them out are like Quicksilver Amulet or Elvish Piper you do miss the cast trigger for some of them though. Albeit a bit jankier, Sneak Attack and using cards like Endless Sands allows you to have the Eldrazi way ahead of time.

goldlion on Google Ghave, Search Engine of Doom *Help Wanted*

1 week ago

Thanks NeverCloud!

Ohhhh, so close with Yeva, Nature's Herald. I had actually looked at her, but unfortunately her text reads "green creatures". How ever, with that "nasty surprise" strategy in mind, I added Elvish Piper and Deathrender in. Protean Hulk, Eldritch Evolution, Pattern of Rebirth and, Birthing Pod (recommended by hkhssweiss) could all be great parts of the "Surprise Package" :). I like looking at it like that!

The flicker strategy would be great to bring more focus to, such a good point. I have an Eerie Interlude. With the amount of board wipes in my metta I was thinking Faith's Reward and Second Sunrise would double as responses and flickers (in a way) for my board-state. I could also use them after sacking Avatar of Growth through Ghave or another trigger. Flickerwisp, Conjurer's Closet and Restoration Angel will definitely get some serious consideration as I work with the final deck list!

Painful Quandary could be such a perfect include and really brings a paint theme to completion, especially if I go the "lands matter's" route with Ob Nixilis, the Fallen as an include. And with that direct pain strategy in mind, Exquisite Bond becomes a huge include. I appreciate the combo potential with Sanguine Bond as well, however at this point it seems like its only reason for being in there would be Exquisite Bond due to the lack of other life gain in here. Huge thanks for the Exquisite Bond idea though - that could be an easy 30 life in a turn, while swinging my opponents down! Awesome.

I think I'll end up working with two different builds of this deck because of different metta's I might play in. One group has less of an enjoyable view for control, so for them I think I'll go "land's matter". However, I really want to work on the control version as well to make a version that is more of a fast, interesting combo deck. I think Bitterblossom could work in the either one, especially with the fuel it gives Ghave and a few other sac engines in here.

Awesome, NeverCloud - your comment definitely helped it evolve a good step! Thanks again.

multimedia on Mayael the Anima

1 week ago

Hey, looks good, looks fun.

Consider adding these cards:

Cards to consider cutting:

  • Colossus of Akros
  • Emrakul, the Promised End
  • Nylea, God of the Hunt
  • Primordial Hydra
  • Ulvenwald Hydra
  • Brutalizer Exarch
  • Collected Company
  • Eerie Interlude
  • Panharmonicon
  • Boundless Realms
  • Primal Surge
  • Rout
  • Release the Gremlins
  • Boros Garrison

Consider these cards to make the deck more competitive:

Rack is busted with Mayael. You can repeatedly use cards in your hand to set-up the top of your library so when you look at the top five with Mayael you'll always have a creature to cheat into play. Sneak is excellent as an alternative way to cheat big creatures onto the battlefield while giving them haste. The Eldrazi: Kozilek and Ulamog are among the biggest and best creatures to cheat into play. Annihilator is busted with haste and when these Eldrazi/Blightsteel are sac EOT they go back into your library.

Competitive Commander manabases use Fetch lands. They're especially good with three, four and five color decks because they give you so many choices of lands since they can tutor for dual lands. ETB tapped lands are not what you want to play when being competitive. You want all your lands to ETB untapped so you can use the mana they provide the turn you play them otherwise you'll get too far behind, not able to cast spells. Consider these lands for a more competitive manabase: Fetch lands, Shock lands (already have them), Battle lands (already have them), Battlebond lands, Filter lands, Check lands, Rainbow lands?

Fetch lands:

Battlebond Lands:

Filter Lands:

Rainbow Lands:

Other Lands:

Consider this more competitive manabase example:

  • Ancient Tomb
  • Arid Mesa
  • Bloodstained Mire
  • Bountiful Promenade
  • Canopy Vista
  • Cinder Glade
  • Clifftop Retreat
  • Command Tower
  • Fire-Lit Thicket
  • Flooded Strand
  • Homeward Path
  • Mana Confluence
  • Kessig Wolf Run
  • City of Brass
  • Reflecting Pool
  • Rootbound Crag
  • Rugged Prairie
  • Sacred Foundry
  • Spire Garden
  • Stomping Ground
  • Sunpetal Grove
  • Temple Garden
  • Reliquary Tower
  • Windswept Heath
  • Wooded Bastion
  • Wooded Foothills
  • Yavimaya Hollow
  • 5 Forest
  • 2 Plains
  • 1 Mountain

Good luck with your deck.


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