Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers

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Format Legality
Noble Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Casual Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Champions of Kamigawa (CHK) Rare

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Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers

Legendary Land

: Add to your mana pool.

, : Target legendary creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.

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Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers Discussion

Grahamatica on SISAY'S HOMBRES

3 weeks ago

Also... a few more legendary lands to tutor for when you NEED that color to play somehthing. AMAZING lands with upsides

Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers

Flagstones of Trokair

Eiganjo Castle

Pendelhaven

Not tutorable but powerful with Sisay (due to search then shuffle) Mistveil Plains.

Geier Reach Sanitarium is a great land to get value from.

Not a land but powerful with Sisay (and just powerful to start with too) is Sensei's Divining Top. Look at your top three and hate them all? Search with sisay and then you get to shuffle! Same effect with your Sylvan Library and if you add Scroll Rack.

GeminiSpartanX on Thrun, the Last (Vol)Tron

2 months ago

Is this intended to be a budget deck? If not, then cards like Batterskull, Darksteel Plate, and the new Hammer of Nazahn and Bloodforged Battle-Axe would be great additions here. I'm surprised that I'm not seeing Rancor in this list, since it's one of the most efficient green enchantments ever made. Also, 32 lands is not very much. I'd try and add in a few mana rocks like Sol Ring, Emerald Medallion, and Horn of Ramos along with a few more lands or ramp spells like Cultivate, Nature's Lore, Rampant Growth, or Kodama's Reach. Being a mono-colored deck, you can also afford a few more utility lands, like Rogue's Passage, Blighted Woodland, Yavimaya Hollow, Strip Mine, Myriad Landscape, Buried Ruin, Inventors' Fair, and Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers to name a few. Treetop Village can hold some equipment in a pinch if needed as well. A few card-drawing spells would also help like Harmonize or Staff of Nin for longer games.

Feel free to check out my voltron decks for some ideas if you'd like. I have a GW one for equipments I can be your angel, baby!, and a UW one for enchantments Bruna. Win.. Have fun!

Jakobel on BlueGreen evergreen

2 months ago

Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers anstelle eines Waldes da du legendary spielst ...

sylvannos on GW Humans

3 months ago

The first thing that needs to be done is cutting out some of the creatures with high mana costs and still die to Lightning Bolt. A creature has to do something amazing in order to justify costing more than 1 mana and having under 3 toughness. Dark Confidant, Arcbound Ravager, and Vendilion Clique fit these criteria. Odric, Lunarch Marshal, Consul's Lieutenant, and Heron's Grace Champion do not. Getting your creatures to survive to the combat phase when they get hit by Lightning Bolt and Fatal Push is a serious issue.

I'd also move away from anything costing more than 3 mana unless it flat-out ends the game when you play it. Surrak, the Hunt Caller sort of fits this criteria, because he's going to come down and give himself haste right away, allowing you to push in for those last few points of damage. I'm not convinced the same is true for Thalia's Lancers or Sigarda, Heron's Grace (although Sigarda, Heron's Grace is probably a prime candidate for the sideboard).

You're also an aggro deck. You can't afford to lose time because your land on turn 1 came into play tapped. Play basics over Evolving Wilds and Blossoming Sands. Sunpetal Grove and Canopy Vista are other good budget options. Windswept Heath, Temple Garden, Flagstones of Trokair, and Horizon Canopy are powerhouses if you're not on a budget. Lands going into the graveyard also means Knight of the Reliquary is viable.

Gavony Township should be played in your list in multiples. 2 would probably be good. You want to see them each game but you don't have any mana dorks (namely, Noble Hierarch) to allow you to play more than 2.

You should also be playing Honor of the Pure. All of your creatures are white and this puts them over the edge. Combined with Gavony Township, you shouldn't need Collective Effort. These two in combination are cheaper and make your team more consistently large.

That leaves us with the rest of your creatures. Doomed Traveler and Thraben Inspector are kind of "meh" because they don't get damage going fast the way Goblin Guide or Wild Nacatl do.

So what are the replacement options for all of this?

Thalia, Guardian of Thraben is one of the first things you'll want to include. Her taxing effect makes sure your opponents are off tempo in casting their removal or win conditions. Storm basically can't win so long as Thalia, Guardian of Thraben is on the table.

Mirran Crusader is a powerhouse. Immune to Abrupt Decay, Fatal Push, eats Tarmogoyfs, etc. Probably the scariest thing you can do is follow up a turn 2 Honor of the Pure with a Mirran Crusader. If your meta doesn't have a whole lot of green or black, Blade Splicer is another good option for your 3-drop slot.

Hero of Bladehold will quickly end the game and is a a great card to play at the top of your curve. Ranger of Eos is another option. Either card will quickly flood the board and benefit from Honor of the Pure/Gavony Township.

Thalia, Heretic Cathar is absolute hell to try and deal with in Modern. A lot of people are playing fetches and shocks in their mana bases with only enough basics to dodge Ghost Quarter and Blood Moon. Combined with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, your opponents' mana bases will be so strained they may never cast anything after turn 3.

Kytheon, Hero of Akros  Flip, Boros Elite, and Soldier of the Pantheon can fill out your 1-drop slots to speed up your deck.

For some utility, there's Saffi Eriksdotter, Eiganjo Castle, and Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers. These will help keep various elements of your deck alive.

Lastly, there's your maindeck hatecrap that comes from playing G/W Humans. Grand Abolisher, Ethersworn Canonist, True Believer, Imposing Sovereign, and Fiend Hunter will steal games out from under the right opponents.

All of this hinges on you playing Honor of the Pure or sticking with only humans. If you don't run Honor of the Pure, Experiment One, Mayor of Avabruck  Flip, and Noble Hierarch are powerful alternatives (you may want to still include some of these anyway, especially Experiment One).

You can also move away from humans and more into G/W Little Kid. You get more hatecrap (Leonin Arbiter, Qasali Pridemage, Scavenging Ooze, Voice of Resurgence, Aven Mindcensor, Gaddock Teeg), more beatsticks (Loxodon Smiter, Wilt-Leaf Liege, Brimaz, King of Oreskos, Thrun, the Last Troll), and mana dorks.

I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Collected Company. It can be a little underwhelming, however, unless your deck is filled with silver bullets and singletons. You're looking more to go wide and attack as fast as possible. It will completely change the dynamics of your deck and how you play it.

As TMBRLZ, however, you really haven't provided much information. It's hard to tell you specifically what to add or cut from your deck (like is Hero of Bladehold to expensive for your budget? Sword of Fire and Ice?) other than just by glancing over it.

What's your budget? Who will you be playing against? Do you want this deck to remain strictly G/W? Strictly humans? What's the local meta? Is it a bunch of Zooicide players or U/W/x Control players? Or is it 1 guy with a $2,000 Rock deck and a bunch of people with Standard decks? Is this something you want to play for the rest of your Magic career or are you only looking at something to jump into Modern with? Do you plan on playing Legacy or Vintage and this is a deck you'd like to use help ease into older formats?

None of these questions have really been answered and so we're kind of left giving vague card suggestions/descriptions, instead of something like "Cut 3 copies of X and replace them with 2 copies of Y and 1 copy of Z."

theindigoeffect on Uril's Revenge

4 months ago

Thanks, man: people don't tend to think of voltron decks as being competitive, so that's why a labeled it as a casual deck.

The main reason I like Holy Mantle is because it offers evasion, and I feel like that's arguably the most important type of enchantment, but if I replace it with Stranglehold that brings me down to 18 auras, which is a little scary, and if I remove Snake Umbra, that leaves me with just 17 auras, compared to the 19 that you have. You sure that's not too low? Also, by adding Stranglehold, should I just scrap Aven Mindcensor?

At the very least I need Replenish, but I don't mind getting rid of Retether and replacing it with Regrowth. Board wipes aren't so bad during the early goings, but I tend to get focused because of how powerful Uril, The Mistalker gets in such a short period of time.

I don't mind exchanging Grasp of Fate with Cast Out because it does more for less, but I love Cast Out's instant speed.

I don't have copies of Grove of the Burnwillows or Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers, but I have City of Brass, Mana Confluence and Horizon Canopy. The additional fetch lands are cool, but given how few basics I would have and the fact that I'd be limited to fetching only one type of basic is a concern.

I'm completely at ease with most of your suggestions: my only worries are decreasing the total number of auras in my deck and acquiring those off-color fetch lands, but I'm curious to hear your thoughts.

JaceTheSwagSculptor on Uril's Revenge

4 months ago

I'm a big fan of the update, the deck has come a long way. However there still are a few things that I think would make the deck better still:

  • Unravel the Aether -> Qasali Pridemage

  • Rounding out the curve so that it has the look of a descending staircase. To do this we need to replace a 3-drop with either a 1-, 2-, or 4-drop. Snake Umbra is definitely the weakest 3-drop.

  • Holy Mantle could still probably be replaced. I still find this card to be really unimpressive at 4 mana.

  • Lastly, Grasp of Fate is still missing. This card is really hard to pass up.

I don't want this to get lost in translation over multiple posts so I'll try to fix the curve and you can either agree or disagree with my adjustments...

You mentioned getting rid of the color fixing enchants like Abundant Growth and Unbridled Growth, but those are there for multiple reasons. They add to enchantment count (for both Ancestral Mask & Ethereal Armor), can filter and/or draw cards, and provide early game fixing. There is not really a need to remove them as they actually do more than you think.

Do you find yourself getting board wiped that much that you need the second Replenish effect in Retether? If not, I'd just replace it with Regrowth. If so, just leave it.

The lands that I suggested were...Grove of the Burnwillows, Horizon Canopy, City of Brass, Mana Confluence, more fetches, and Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers. They will be better than the speed lands and with the replacement of more basic lands, better than the check lands as well. I definitely would not get rid of all your basics though.

My suggestion for your ideal land base would be...

1x Ancient Tomb

1x Misty Rainforest

1x Cavern of Souls

1x Arid Mesa

1x Command Beacon

1x Command Tower

1x Contested Cliffs

1x City of Brass

1x Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers

3x Forest

1x Verdant Catacombs

1x Horizon Canopy

1x Grove of the Burnwillows

2x Mountain

1x Scalding Tarn

4x Plains

1x Marsh Flats

1x Plateau

1x Mana Confluence

1x Flooded Strand

1x Sacred Foundry

1x Savannah

1x Stomping Ground

1x Bloodstained Mire

1x Taiga

1x Temple Garden

1x Windswept Heath

1x Wooded Foothills

I also love that you have this deck tagged as "casual," this deck is a far cry from casual. Lol

JaceTheSwagSculptor on Uril's Revenge

5 months ago

You could also probably benefit from including these in addition to original duals in your mana base: Grove of the Burnwillows, Horizon Canopy, Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers, Mana Confluence, City of Brass, and more fetches.

A lot of the aforementioned duals are at the very least better options than the speed lands and with the addition of more non-basics probably the check lands too.

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