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Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers
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, : Target legendary creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers Discussion
2 months ago
Realistically speaking, the most efficient method I've found to ramp Sisay's power up as fast as possible is to grab Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers into Blackblade Reforged and equip Sisay. There just isn't a good way to make her tutor chaining efficient enough for cEDH and even the best methods I've found require 4 or 5 WBURG activations plus 3G to get to the point the combo chain wins the game.
I don't think this is a commander that can be effective in competitive play, but if it could be it would likely have to be in some sort of stax based shell that allows the deck to make the activations over multiple turns (ideally in one turn cycle using an effect like Seedborn Muse as already suggested to power it all out on opponents turns), and even this would be on the weaker end of the power spectrum for competitive play.
Under no circumstances try this commander in a "storm" style shell, and especially don't use Aetherflux Reservoir as a win condition if you're looking to be even remotely competitive with the deck. That's already a poor win condition in cEDH and there are decks that make much more effective use of that poor win condition anyways which would defeat the purpose of playing Sisay in the first place.
2 months ago
Journey to Eternity Flip seems like it could put in some work in this deck, especially since it's recurable with Kethis. You could also run some on-color legendary lands: Shizo, Death's Storehouse , Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers , Eiganjo Castle , Flagstones of Trokair , and Urborg (the Legends one) all come to mind.
3 months ago
1x Oran-Rief, the Vastwood 1x Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers 1x Mosswort Bridge 1x Adaptive Automaton 1x Obelisk of Urd 1x Emerald Medallion 1x Forebear's Blade 1x Konda's Banner 1x Guardian Project 1x Shamanic Revelation 1x Overwhelming Stampede 1x Konda's Banner 1x Vanquisher's Banner 1x Vivien Reid 1x Vivien, Champion of the Wilds 1x Selvala, Heart of the Wilds 1x Cultivate 1x Kodama's Reach 1x Zendikar Resurgent 1x Seedborn Muse 1x Chord of Calling 1x Garruk Wildspeaker 1x Thunderfoot Baloth 1x Vizier of the Menagerie 1x Prowling Serpopard 1x Beast Whisperer 1x Shaman of Forgotten Ways 1x Eldritch Evolution
3 months ago
Heroes' Podium is a pretty great card in here. Since you don't really have that many green symbols in this deck, try taking out Gaea's Cradle for Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers . I like how this deck is mostly foiled!!
8 months ago
I'd take Journey to Nowhere over Pacifism , there are a lot of creatures who hurt you just by being on the battlefield without attacking or blocking anyone. Luminarch Ascension seems like a card that's good in multiplayer where you have a lot of opponents' end phases for it to trigger in and a propensity for stale mates, so if you're playing that way a lot it's a good card. In normal matchups, though, I don't see it doing much for you. Instead of Ghostly Prison , I'd bring in Archangel of Tithes , she's a bit more expensive for you and not as expensive for your opponent, but she's more versatile and comes with a 3/5 body which can really do wonders.
Darksteel Citadel doesn't seem to do a whole lot of good for you, and the occasional life-gain from Seraph Sanctuary is really also something you need to have a payoff for for it to be worth it. Maybe just get some extra plains, or you could get Eiganjo Castle or Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers . You also seem to have rather more forests than I'd really recommend, but good dual lands are expensive, so I get you :) If you can afford them, I recommend Temple Garden , Horizon Canopy , Windswept Heath , Razorverge Thicket and Wooded Bastion .
Shaman of Forgotten Ways seems way too expensive, I'd get Birds of Paradise or more Noble Hierarch s if you can afford it, otherwise Avacyn's Pilgrim , Beastcaller Savant or Bloom Tender can do good work too. I'm also not sure what Kytheon's Irregulars ' role in your deck is, again let me recommend Archangel of Tithes , or alternatively Angel of Jubilation , Shalai, Voice of Plenty , or Indomitable Archangel or Gisela, the Broken Blade . Baneslayer Angel is a fine card, but unless you're facing demons and dragons regularly, Lyra Dawnbringer is probably better. Her ability to be a lord for other angels is really nice.
Iona, Shield of Emeria and Avacyn, Angel of Hope are super powerful bombs, but I'm not sure you have enough ramp to play them consistently. Of course, you know your local meta better than I do, so you be the judge of that yourself :) I'd recommend thinking about dropping them, though.
And last, a shameless plug. I've been playing with an angel deck of my own at my local FNM and been doing OK, it's been mono-white, white-green-red and is now just white-green. You can check the latest iteration here if you're looking for a somewhat different take on this whole business: Noble Angels
8 months ago
11 months ago
I like Ash Barrens, if I don't need to mana-fix (for ), I can still play it untapped an utilize that turn. On the other hand, If i have Forest,Forest,Ash Barrens I can fix into a Plains. Also, if the game is going on, I can pay the to filter out another land from my deck. So it never really hurts me (only helps sometimes).
Because I don't have many Equipments/Artifacts, Tree of Tales/Ancient Den are even more valuable to me. I often tutor for equipment (multiple creatures do this, sorcery, etc). I need to attack / connect / infect so often I will need to pull a protection sword, or a Grafted Exoskeleton and have high Equip costs. Because I'm not highly combo, being able to connect faster is critical. PS: I need more combos in this deck, still searching for them if you have any ideas!
Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers never hurts though either, it's a with no penalty so have to work that in as well somewhere.
1 year ago
I've got two more suggestions. Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers and Hashep Oasis. Maybe you could switch them in for Ash Barrens and Tree of Tales/Ancient Den. When I tried Ash Barrens in my budget version of your deck it most of the time just tended to slow me down. Of course it can help getting you the missing landtype but most of the time it didn't do anything. Tree of Tales and Ancient Den just serve for the purpose of acitvating Puresteel Paladins second ability. They are prone to removal and even if they make Metalcraft happen it doesn't seem to matter that much because you only you only got 8 equipments included anyway and are not likely to draw them for time Puresteel Paladin is on the field. Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers on the other hand does have 8 different targets and is harder to remove. Hashep Oasis is just a more consistant version of Centaur Garden that doesn't force you to pay life for mana and doesn't need 7 cards in your graveyard to be sacrificed (even though the activating cost is higher).
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