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Brago's Throne

I decided to create a deck without an infinite combo finish, since those get boring after a while.

Badass Brago

As mentioned before, I've decided to stay away from infinite combos as a main win condition for this deck because they are not fun for me. This deck is a WU blink value deck, getting nice perks when blinking permanents, such as card draw and lifegain. I have considered some other well-known blink commanders, such as Roon of the Hidden Realm and Merieke Ri Berit, but I find that blink decks do just fine in the colors. Merieke could also be considered a copy/steal theme based on her ability, but blinking can a subtheme to permanently take control of permanents or get value out of the creatures' EtBs, such as Rune-Scarred Demon.

This deck's current budget is $95, and will be increasing as time goes on.

I don't normally do this, but as far as suggestions go, any cards that form an infinite combo are excluded because this deck is just about out-valuing opponents via EtB effects, then swinging with my very powerful army of tokens or creatures.

Blegh, Brago

  • Phyrexian Metamorph is a neat card in this deck, you can Flicker it to become Felidar Guardian, or copy opponents' EtB creatures to profit off of those.

  • Blinking cards like Flickerwisp with Brago can allow you to blink a card multiple times a turn.

  • Mastery of the Unseen and the "X"-forms are the reason why I use so many permanents, you flicker the manifest tokens, and get the face-up permanents. So this deck can cheat in Omniscience in theory.

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python2048 says... #1

I play Ephara, God of the Polis as my commander and even though they are kind of different decks, there is a lot of overlap.

A few cards that are under or around $2 that I run and you might get benefit from:

Knight-Captain of Eos

Conjurer's Closet

Wall of Omens

Sunblast Angel

Karmic Guide

Crystal Shard

Trinket Mage (you can add Seat of the Synod, Ancient Den, and maybe even Darksteel Citadel to make it worth more than just getting Sol Ring. I have Everflowing Chalice. In this deck, you may also get use from Pithing Needle. With this package, it's probably just better than Pilgrim's Eye.)

Thalia's Lancers (Important to note, it gets any legendary, not just creatures. I run Inventors' Fair and Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx.)

If you have Archaeomancer, you probably want Mnemonic Wall and Scrivener as well. These cards make Ghostly Flicker much better. So much so that I run also Displace and Illusionist's Stratagem as well in Ephara.

Ixidron could be interesting in this deck, especially if you add more blink effects outside of Brago.

I don't know how much I like creature auras for Brago. He's already a removal magnet (which is one of the reasons I don't play him as my commander) and I feel like you'd end up just getting two for one'd. Whispersilk Cloak might be a good alternative. You could also add stuff like Cloudshift, Momentary Blink, or maybe even Whitemane Lion to help protect Brago from removal or get additional value. Again, I haven't played this deck and don't know your meta, so this may be irrelevant.

You may want to look at making your mana rocks a turn faster so you can curve into Brago on turn three. You could run Talisman of Progress, Fellwar Stone, or Thought Vessel if you're looking to have your rocks all untap with Brago. They aren't as reliable at fixing as say Darksteel Ingot, but the speed could be worth it.

Here's a link to my Ephara deck if you're interested:

Ephara's Blink'n Value

March 21, 2017 11:08 p.m.

Triton says... #2

python2048 thanks for all the great suggestions! I'll add in any of the <$2 cards that you suggested, I was at first hesitant about Karmic Guide since she's quite combo-oriented. However, I believe I do not have any of the other combo pieces that would make her go infinite.

Trinket Mage seems pretty good, I don't know how I would feel about it since Pilgrim's Eye does have more combos. I'll put it into consideration. The main reason I added it in was because I ad a foil one lying around, but it's no problem taking it out haha. Thalia's Lancers would be better if I had more legendaries, as you stated.

I think cutting all the auras would be a good idea, I'll add in Whispersilk Cloak. I completely blanked on that card and was thinking about it today haha.

I agree completely with the mana rocks, I can easily find a place for them in the deck.

As for protection for Brago, I'll consider adding more non-permanent bounce cards, but it does mean that I'll have to readjust some cards, as I enjoy lots of permanents for Mastery of the Unseen and blinking value, but it's no biggie. :)

March 21, 2017 11:23 p.m.

Flagellum says... #3

Reality Acid is funny with Brago and it gets around indestructible.

Rishadan Footpad/Rishadan Cutpurse/Rishadan Brigand are hilarious if dropped within the first few turns.

Fatespinner is a better Stonehorn Dignitary and doesn't need to be blinked.

March 22, 2017 12:37 a.m.

Triton says... #4

Flagellum I have considered Reality Acid, I'll reconsider adding it in. The Rishadan creatures are pretty cool, I do like the repeatable removal.

Fatespinner is hilarious, but it is a tad expensive ($$-wise) for me, and I do like how on-theme Dignitary is in this deck.

Thanks for the suggestions!

March 22, 2017 11:41 a.m.

Flagellum says... #5

Np, if you want to browse my deck for other ideas here it is:


Brago, King Dethroned

Commander / EDH Flagellum

SCORE: 10 | 20 COMMENTS | 1955 VIEWS | IN 5 FOLDERS


It started off very budget but over time it morphed into a heavy stax/competitive deck that stalled everything. That wasn't very fun for anyone so I removed the stax elements and changed it to something that just abuses ETB effects. Stax works great but makes Brago an even bigger threat and when he's removed those elements affected me just as much. The comments section has the more budget friendlier cards I used to run. Happy building!

March 22, 2017 12:57 p.m.

Triton says... #6

I'll check out your deck for ideas, thanks!

March 22, 2017 1:51 p.m.

dlamars says... #7

Hey, I just tuned my first blink deck and I think I have a few solid suggestions keeping budget in mind:

Man-o'-War is great removal, alongside those you already have.

Linvala, the Preserver is an all star in my mardu flicker deck, if you can keep it from being removed it pays off big.

Knight of the White Orchid probably the best ramp option in white, I like Oreskos Explorer too and ultimately replaced Kor Cartographer for it in my deck since coming down on turn 2 it's much more relevant timing wise imo.

Mentor of the Meek is great for card advantage too.

I also like Cataclysmic Gearhulk though he's not always a great play, having the option to Cataclysm every turn can be useful.

Some cuts I'd consider are:Myr Battlesphere - bit too spendy.

Deadeye Navigator - feel like you're better off running something like Fiend Hunter since it pairs so well with brago, is on curve and adds a temporary removal option.

Kor Cartographer - just too much mana imo for a 2/2, ramping from 4 to 6 the next turn doesn't seem super relevant here.

Mistmeadow Witch - like the navigator I think another Glimmerpoint Stag like creature works better with brago.

Call for Unity - seems really slow to me, would be better off just going with Cathars' Crusade or even Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit I think.

Hopefully some of that is useful to you, I like the deck a lot. Good luck!

April 10, 2017 3:08 a.m.

Triton says... #8

@dlamars

I had Man-o'-War in the deck originally, but replaced it with Rishadan Brigand, do you think I should redo the change?

Linvala, the Preserver Is amazing value! I'll find a spot for her.

I completely agree with Knight of the White Orchid for Kor Cartographer, I kinda forgot about that card back when I played Standard.

I haven't paid too much attention to the amount of creatures that could trigger Mentor of the Meek, but I'll consider him since I do feel as though this deck could use a bit more card draw.

Cataclysmic Gearhulk is really cool! I like the EtB, since I feel as though this deck could use a bit more boardwipes, will consider him in the 99.

I like Myr Battlesphere since while I agree it is quite spendy, as you mentioned, it does serve as a win condition by attacking with a bunch of Myr and burning your opponent for a ton of damage. Deadeye Navigator is a very powerful blink card, and I am quite hesitant to take him out. I do think Mistmeadow Witch is a tad too slow for this deck, I'll take her out for Glimmerpoint Stag. I think Call for Unity is good because when you blink creatures with counters on them, the counters disappear, so I think that giving up some speed for more synergy is fine.

Thanks for the suggestions and upvote!

April 10, 2017 10:55 a.m.

dlamars says... #9

Hey I forgot to mention Whirler Rogue, think it works well here since brago needs to get through.

Also while I understand your thoughts behind Call for Unity I still think Cathars' Crusade is better, since brago allows you to choose what to exile it is entirely possible to flicker everything but tokens or one creature making multiple large creatures when needed. Also when they all enter they each create a trigger so 4 creatures entering give all of them four counters, so the counters are never really lost. On turn 5 or 6 I think you could easily give everything 4 or 5 counters and swing for lethal turn 6 or 7 in comparison to +1/+1 on turn 6, +2/+2 turn 7 etc. Anyways just my opinion.

April 11, 2017 1:53 p.m.

Triton says... #10

dlamars I think Whirler Rogue is very good, which is why she has a spot in the deck. ;) I always forget the second ability of hers, so it only solidifies her place in the deck haha.

As for Cathars' Crusade, I think you do have a good point for it with blinking creatures, and I think if I had a creature that I was abusing its ability with Brago, the creature wouldn't have a significant amount of counters on it.

Thanks for your input and suggestions!

April 11, 2017 2:42 p.m.

WiltLeafElves says... #11

i did some testing with this deck, and generally, you only get 2 lands, and have heavier spells stranded in hand. is 2 lands ok for this deck? from what i saw, you might want to go up to 37 lands. just to be safer.

also, you have enough etb effects, i think you can safely run Panharmonicon and abuse them.

overall, this deck look solid. if i were you (remember, i know less about this deck than you do) i would add in panharmonicon, abuse my etb triggers. although it may open up some infinite combos, those would still be very obscure, and the main point is just the value you get out of it.

May 8, 2017 10:25 p.m.

Triton says... #12

emrakulinsmugglers Good to know! I'll test the deck myself, just in case it's bad luck haha. I'll up the land count if I find the same problem as you. I think Panharmonicon is excellent for the deck! It's just that the price at the time was too high for me to afford it. Now that its price has dropped considerably, I'll add it to the deck. Thanks for the suggestions and upvote!

May 9, 2017 10:50 a.m.

KeelHaul10 says... #13

For not running infinite Brago stax, i want to hug you. +1 from me.

But let's say your board gets wiped. Eerie interlude is good, but how about Faith's Reward for redundancy? I think your deck is somewhat vunerable to force sacrifices or annihilator, as it focuses on ETB effects, not die triggers, so recurring your stuff with your Karmic Guide is great! Maybe cutting the some blink spells would allow for more toolbox

May 9, 2017 7:04 p.m.

Triton says... #14

KeelHaul10 appreciate the intention for hugging and upvote! Hahaha.

I've actually never looked at Faith's Reward in this deck as a recovery card, I think it's a very good and very unique addition! I think Ghostly Flicker could get cut, as I have plenty of Felidar Guardian-like creatures that do similar things and can be reused with Brago.

Thanks for the suggestion and upvote!

May 9, 2017 11:54 p.m.

LVL_666 says... #15

Your deck reminds me of Astral Slide, the most OG of flicker spells. Since Cycling is now a thing again, you have a whole host of Cycling lands to choose from:

Additionally, you could use:

  • Eternal Dragon to help you get more Plains.
  • Akroma's Vengeance for mass destruction, and a chance for you to slide a creature to save them from the destruction.
  • Decree of Justice A bomb of a spell, especially great after you just do a board wipe.

I realize that these suggestions would basically change your entire deck, but that's what came to mind. Take it all worth a grain of salt. But if you're willing to go into that direction, let me know. I'm curious to see what you'd think up.

May 17, 2017 3:21 p.m.

Triton says... #16

LVL_666 I think Astral Slide is an awesome idea for this deck! My only issue is not having cards with similar effects, for redundancy. I'd definitely use it if I had more tutors in general, but a I think it's a great card! Thanks for the suggestion and upvote!

May 17, 2017 7:46 p.m.

LVL_666 says... #17

Well, I can understand that you don't have enough cards with similar effects...but i'll toss out some cards you could potentially swap in for others.

  • Cast Out for Oblivion Ring
  • Decree of Silence - now here's the trick with this card. As you place counters on it, you just use Brago to remove it from play - removing the counters and then you place it back resetting things back to 0.

It seems like an interesting idea...but I think your deck is headed in a very different direction. Unfortunately I didn't find any cards that can somehow interact with Cycling and Flicker. Does anything come to mind for you?

May 18, 2017 10:38 a.m.

Triton says... #18

LVL_666 I agree Cast Out is definitely superior to Oblivion Ring because of Flash and Cycling, I'll try getting my hands on one for this deck for sure!

Decree of Silence is a great card! I'm only concerned about its mana cost, but I can cheat it in via manifesting it and then blinking it.. idk I'll have to test it haha.

Thanks for the suggestions!

May 18, 2017 11:51 a.m.

Peanut3181 says... #19

I have a Brago deck as well if you want to check them out. I have a couple suggestions s for ya.

Basalt Monolith, and Mana Vault are really good because they all come in untapped because of Brago's ability and are relatively inexpensive money wise.

I would also add in Venser, Shaper Savant. He just got a reprint so now is the time to get him.

Frost Titan is neat in this deck along with Luminate Primordial.

Great Whale, and Peregrine Drake can help you leave up mana for a counterspell if you aren't looking at going infinite with Deadeye Navigator

Trial of Knowledge is hilarious with Brago.

Glen Elendra Archmage is gross because the persist counters go away when you flicker her.

Teferi, Temporal Archmage is absolutely amazing because of the utility of card draw and leaving mana up for a counterspell. Plus you can do his abilities more then once if you flicker him. Amazing value.

As for cuts, take out some of your mana rocks for the ones that I recommended, also if your going for a tempo/value deck I can't emphasize card draw enough. I have 12 sources in mine and I still feel like that sometimes isn't enough.

May 18, 2017 10:11 p.m.

Somehow I always end up here...commenting on one of your lists. Anyways here goes round 3 lol.

You mentioned hating Brago's infinite combo potential a lot, but truth be told Brago is stax general first and foremost. As Flagellum kindly pointed out Brago excels at slowing down the game, but whether you are going to enjoy running a second stax list is up to you.

I don't know your meta, playgroup, or if you're looking for this deck to generate as much hate as your Mazirek deck, but you mentioned optimizing and hating infinite combo's. Thus, I think it's fitting that stax comes as the natural best option if you are solely looking to win games "optimally."

In my opinion it is always very difficult to get there solely on the "value creature" plan. Especially due to the fact that creatures are arguably the most fragile permenant type in Magic and Brago's ability is fairly restrictive (in that he must deal damage to trigger).

If this is just a casual list and I'm completely missing the mark here, please feel free to call me out Triton. However on that same note idk why you would attempt to optimize a purely casual list.

May 18, 2017 10:47 p.m.

Peanut3181 says... #21

I agree with the above comment completely. Azorius in and of itself is a stax combination. Just as somebody ramping really hard in green/red and killing them on turn 4 is doing the same thing bu playing to its strengths. If you want to make Brago fun, do what you're doing if it matches your meta. If you find yourself getting bullied and not having fun because you can't control the board then make it stax and play to Azorius' strengths. The combination of Death and taxes along with blue control is where Azorius needs to be. These decks have a purpose. They keep green decks in check.

In my opinion if your meta is causal and you love control, maybe find a new meta. The older I get, the more I play MTG the more I value playing control decks.

May 19, 2017 1:06 a.m.

Triton says... #22

JaceTheSwagSculptor fancy meeting you again! hahaha

I intended this deck to be more on the casual side, and I do know how to optimize it via adding stax pieces/Strionic Resonator to the deck. When I asked for optimization, I meant mainly for cards that were more optimal in place of cards that might be lacking in this deck. Hopefully this clears up any confusion!

Peanut3181 I was considering Basalt Monolith in place of a mana rock, because you're able to untap it via Brago. I can most definitely add it in. I'll also add the Trial and Oath of Jace back in, since at worst they're basically sorcery spells that stay on the field lol.

I'll consider Frost Titan and Luminate Primordial. I used to have Luminate Primordial in the deck, but took it out because it had too high of a CMC.

I think the potential to go infinite is there for Peregrine Drake, which I'm a bit hesitant about. However, I will consider them!

Some of the cards are really good, but they're kinda expensive for me. I'll add them to the maybeboard if I can trade for them, or get my hands on them in general, I will add them in.

@both (or anyone reading this): So as I mentioned to Jace, I intended this for more casual games. But! As you both may know, Brago is quite the hate magnet on the table. I think if he is too much of one, I may just say fuck it and go for the more cutthroat build, because I enjoy my decks functioning consistently and winning. I have done this before, with my Breya deck, so this isn't new haha. Anyways, I want to hear opinions on the deck.

I'm also happy to test it out the way it is, and then see if I should go the more cutthroat route, since it wouldn't take much investment lol.

May 19, 2017 1:11 p.m.

Let me see if I can articulate this properly...

I'm not a huge fan of value creature-based strategies aside from elves for the reasons that I mentioned in my previous post. If the deck is to be more casual for now, then my advice would be to drop a lot of the creatures and replace them with more controlling pieces such as planewalkers, enchantments, card draw, counterspells, and etc.

Having two activations every turn of cards like Elspeth, Sun's Champion or Oath of Jace is definitely nothing to scoff at. I believe having less vulnerable permenants that consistently generate advantage is where Brago wants to be for lower power level meta's.

If not stax, then this is where I would personally go with the deck. However I do not want to come off as attempting to impose my ideals onto your deck building, so if blinking creatures is what you want to be doing then don't let me tell you otherwise.

May 19, 2017 2:04 p.m.

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This deck is Commander / EDH legal.

Cards 100
Avg. CMC 3.42
Tokens 1/1 Soldier, 1/1 Thopter, 1/1 Spirit, 1/1 Myr
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