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Retreat to Emeria
Landfall — Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, choose one &mdashl;
- Put a 1/1 white Kor Ally creature token onto the battlefield.
- Creatures you control get +1/+1 until end of turn.
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Retreat to Emeria Discussion
17 hours ago
3 weeks ago
xaerusbladeI just want to say thank you for all of the responses I have been getting, they have been really helpful. So what I picked was an aggressive deck with tokens. I added most of my life gain cards to my sideboard, if not getting rid of them. I moved both of the Nyx-Fleece Ram to the sideboard, as well as Grazing Gladehart but I might just get rid of him. I also thought I could keep Nyx-Fleece Ram on the main board and use it to bulk up Ajani's Pridemate. I took a look at the "Little Kid GW" Deck and I saw a couple cards I really enjoyed, which also helped fix my mana curve, including 4 Watchwolf and 2 Narnam Renegade. I did pick more multi-color lands and also got some fetchlands including 3 Knight of the White Orchid. I did also add 2 Renegade Rallier for Revolt with Beast Within As well as using Knight of the White Orchid to get the land back. Now I would like more ways to get more land back, so I would like some more fetchland ideas if anyone else has any other, but I am still wondering if I should go the route of Landfall. That will also decide if I should keep Emeria Angel. I also got rid of Kemba, Kha Regent with the equipment. Now I did add 3 of the "Soul Sisters" I really like this as the life gain due to the fact that it is supposed to be a token deck and having that will help. Now I have a question about my planeswalkers and if I should keep both of them, none of them, or one, or replace them? A creature I have also been on the fence with is Lone Rider Flip. My deck is really not so much into lifegain now so most of it is moved to the sideboard but idk if it is even necessary to do that. Now this deck was originally designed to be a token deck, with spells such as Selesnya Charm, Call of the Conclave, Gather the Townsfolk, and Retreat to Emeria. But idk if that would even be the beast strategy at this point. I think that I need to either pick Landfall or token but I would really like some help in that regard. What should I do with Qasali Pridemage? It seems kinda out of place. And I wanted to move him to my sideboard. But I do like the Removal
Now an idea I had come up when I found the Beast Within card. My idea was I could use it to get rid of a land, which in turn would activate Revolt. Then after that put down a land, or use a fethland to get the landfall which could, in turn, get me more creatures through, and other Retreat to Emeria. Idk how well that would work but its an idea that popped up in my head
Again I want to thank you all for the suggestions and I really appreciate it
3 weeks ago
Long ass advice incoming:
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(If you remove the spaces inbetween the brackets) > Island
1x Adventuring Gear 1x Ajani Goldmane 1x Ajani's Chosen 2x Ajani's Mantra, 1x Ajani's Pridemate 1x Ajani, Mentor of Heroes 1x Arctic Nishoba 1x Behemoth Sledge 1x Call of the Conclave 2x Emeria Angel 1x Felidar Sovereign 14x Forest 1x Gather the Townsfolk 2x Grazing Gladehart 1x Grove of the Guardian 1x Guardians' Pledge 1x Increasing Savagery 1x Jedit Ojanen of Efrava 1x Kemba, Kha Regent 1x Oath of Gideon 16x Plains 2x Precinct Captain 2x Pride Sovereign 1x Primal Bellow 2x Regal Caracal 1x Retreat to Emeria 1x Selesnya Charm 1x Staff of the Wild Magus 1x Terra Stomper1x Blossoming Sands
Just a hint if you come looking for help in the future :)
The first thing I would like to add is that you are playing way too much land. In a 60 card deck with a steap mana curve, you probably only want 24-25 lands. Now your deck is currently 64. That's not too bad, but if you could shave it down to 60 that'll be doing yourslef a sall favor. (Consistancy is just lovely.)
Secondly, I can spot a few cards that I either find too bad to play, imo, or doesn't really fit your strategy too well.
Ajani's Chosen The card is perfectly reasoable as is right now, if not a little too clonky, but if you decide to take my advice on the Mantra's it's probably not playable afterwards.
Felidar Sovereign Awesome as it is, seems like a very unlikely wincondition for you. If you ever get to a point where it would win you the game, you are probably already winnning.
You have a couple more cards, that I'm a bit unhappy with, but are reasonable for the moment being.
Thirdly if you want to play a slower deck, you have to be able to interact.
If you can't answer the things your opponent does from time to time, you are going to lose to a lot of combo decks.
Fourthly: Here are some cards I hink you should look into, priced around the 1$ mark, or less. (If you want that lifegain theme to stick)
Qasali Pridemage Realy powerful card, that happens to be a cat, and can sometimes "interact" with opposing gameplans.
More Ajani's Pridemate - It's a great finisher, if you have some lifegain.
Condemn - Cheap creature removal.
More Blossoming Sands, fixing mana gaining life.
Blessed Alliance - Everthing goo in this world.
Eidolon of Rhetoric - put this in your sideboard, you wont regret it.
You are more than welcome to ask me for advice if you need an experienced player for something :) and good luck.
3 weeks ago
Very well, here's my latest jank for your consideration (take your time)
Orzhov Advokist: Boosts one of your creatures and tells you ahead of time whether or not someone is planning on attacking you. This potentially lets it both replace one card from Conflict Escalation and another from Deterrence, which would free up a slot for something else. On the downside, it takes a player turn cycle to become relevant and it's more about quality than quantity (although you could use things like Tetravus, Murder Investigation and/or Hangarback Walker to alleviate this, see also about Elemental Mastery below). Another problem is that it doesn't reward people for attacking each other and it's arguably anti-synergetic with Mystic Barrier.
Harvest Season/(Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip): More powerful yet less reliable alternative to Cultivate. (Although instead of Itlimoc you could just spend hundreds of bucks on a Gaea's Cradle I guess)
(Thornscape Familiar): The only one in the cost reduction Familiar cycle which affects more than one of the colors in your commander's identity. Aside from Gahiji himself, it works for 33 out of the 99 cards in the current deck (assuming no shenanigans like Celestial Dawn or Feroz's Ban). I dunno if you cast those 33 cards frequently enough per turn to make the cost reduction worthwhile compared to land-based ramp, especially since you got some land matters cards like Mirari's Wake.
Continuing my quest of exhausting every possible card advantage option known to beast, god and man:
Elvish Harbinger: Complement or possibly even a replacement for Wood Elves. Ramps and elf Imperial Seal:s from a pretty diverse pool consisting of Rhys the Redeemed, Reclamation Sage, Wood Elves, Knight of the Reliquary, Mirror Entity, Selvala, Explorer Returned & Oracle of Mul Daya. Since it doesn't have flash, unplanned shuffling is my biggest reservation towards this one. (As an optional bonus, it can form the middle of a threefold creature tutor chain with either of the Recruiters and any elf.)
Green Sun's Zenith: Banned in modern and probably something you've already considered. Puts green critters directly onto the battlefield and is self-recurable. It can pick from a pretty diverse pool that includes (among other things) Den Protector, Oracle of Mul Day, Reclamation Sage, Tireless Tracker, Wood Elves, Knight of the Reliquary, Mirri, and Selvala.
Worldly Tutor: Creature Vampiric Tutor, might be a bit slow without an available draw source. (Congregation at Dawn) takes things further, but with the presence of other (shuffling) tutors and a lack of great draw power it seems questionable. Eladamri's Call is the Demonic Tutor equivalent, dunno if it can compete with Green Sun's.
(Evolutionary Leap): Unsure about this one, but could be nice with things that give a benefit upon death (be it naturally or trough Skullclamp with 2 or more toughness) and/or are disposable (especially cheap ETB creatures that can be recurred with Sun Titan).
(Defense of the Heart): Obviously very powerful if it goes off, but I assume that it's too conditional & vulnerable to removal to be worth it.
Magus of the Wheel: Complement to the classic wheel that's already present. I prefer the Magus over Wheel of Fate & Reforge the Soul due to not requiring you to have all the mana at once and/or because it's more predictable for something that discards your hand (although slower without haste). As a bonus, it's recurable with Sun Titan (and tutorable with either of the Recruiters).
Other misc. cards which you've probably already considered and rejected, but just in case:
(Luminarch Ascension): On one hand, Ant Queen on steroids. On the other, draws a lot of hate and/or takes at least four turns to become not-useless (assuming no helpful proliferation) which makes it more and more of a dead draw over time. (Sacred Mesa is a weird compromise.) There's also Emeria Angel/Retreat to Emeria for if you want to expand on the land subtheme, but it doesn't have the same explosive potential as the aforementioned manasinks (although Hazezon Tamar might be a decent compromise).
Elemental Mastery: Channels a quality creature (e.g. a beefed up Knight of the Reliquary or just Gahiji himself) into a quantity of tokens which better synergizes with Gahiji's ability. On the downside, since the tokens only lasts one turn you can't increase their power on the long term with e.g. Curse of Predation. The card also has the two usual problems associated with Auras in that it requires the presence of an appropriate creature to be useful and that single-target removal against said creature becomes a two-for-one deal (and this is further exasperated by the fact that you're encouraged to increase the power of the creature by e.g. putting counters on it). Also too expensive for Sun Titan. Dragon Throne of Tarkir gives somewhat similar quality-to-quantity conversion in a more resilient equipment form.
(Path of Ancestry) vs one of Temple of Abandon/Temple of Plenty/Temple of Triumph. Less reliable scry that only works with Gahiji & the changeling, but taps for all the relevant colors. Dunno how frequently this is relevant for you.
(Rith, the Awakener): Token generator alternative. I'm guessing you've rejected it because the tokens lack evasion and/or the token generation is too conditional. (But hey, at least it's a combat damage effect for Duelist's Heritage to interact with)
(Marton Stromgald): Potentially explosive token amplification but hard to keep alive.
Mass Hysteria: In case you're not getting enough haste from Slayers' Stronghold. Also works with the group slug aspect, but I dunno if it will backfire by e.g. letting powerful tap abilities come out of nowhere. (There's also Concordant Crossroads if you're not worried about it being replaced by another World Enchantment.) Samut, Voice of Dissent is another option that has quite a few other features as well, but I fear she'll come in a bit too late. Got similar feelings about (Urabrask the Hidden), who's also kinda detrimental to the group slug theme and/or will draw too much hate. ((Akroma's Memorial) is even worse in the lateness department.)
Mogg Infestation/(Settle the Wreckage)/Fell the Mighty/(Righteous Fury)/(Sunblast Angel)/(Angel of the Dire Hour): One of the Token Beatdown variants favors board wipes, but all of the listed cards have a tendency to kill your fatties and leave your opponent's weenies alive. In case you want a source of emergency non-targeted creature removal in the main deck and/or the variant, here's some additional options that can leave your own creatures alive, even if they're a bit more expensive than e.g. Wrath of God (or, in the case of Settle the Wreckage, potentially profitable for an opponent). Special mention to Mogg Infestation for still keeping the group slug going by being Beast Within on steroids & Angel of the Dire Hour for bypassing indestructible in addition to shroud, if that's relevant in your meta (although a plain (Arcane Lighthouse) might be better then).
(Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite): Saving the most prominently obvious card for last, I assume the reason you've rejected it is because it's not explosive enough to act as a 1v1 finisher, while being detrimental to the overall group slug strategy when there's more than one opponent alive.
1 month ago
Karametra was my first commander as well and is still my all time favorite to this day. Mine is more of a "landfall matters" deck but here are some cards in mine that you may not have considered yet!
Zuran Orb+Splendid Reclamation
Sakura-Tribe Elder+Emeria Angel=grab every plains out of your deck
Craterhoof Behemoth ends the game on the spot
1 month ago
4 months ago
First off, there are a number of cards that are just not good enough for modern. Veteran Warleader requires you to overextend a board state. Putrefy is outclassed by Abrupt Decay, Cast Out is normally a worse Oblivion Ring, and Retreat to Emeria is kind of just meh all around.
Next, what do you want the deck to do? The way you currently have it set up, it looks like you wanna win fast. Your land count is low, and you are running a lot cof creatures. In which case, why not run Naya Allies? They are fast and Lightning Bolt provides a lot of reach. I would say the strength of abzan allies is the amount of interaction you are afforded, and therefore you might be better off upping your land count and trying to aim for a more midrange shell.
To further Allies as a midrange shell, let me explain the importance of a few cards. The most impotant cards for a midrange shell are Kabira Evangel, Ally Encampment, Gideon, Ally of Zendikar, and Collected Company. I think a strong argument can also be made for Aether Vial -- and in some lists, Orzhov Charm. Allies get big fairly fast -- but they do not start big. Therefore, if you want to be able to outscale other midrange decks, you need to be able to protect your board state. You do this by dropping an ally every turn so that Kabira Evangel can keep them safe. Gideon, Ally of Zendikar and Ally Encampment are super good at this. However, if your opponent is smart, they will then just hold off their removal until their turn when the effects wear off. These are the times that Aether Vial, Collected Company, and Orzhov Charm shine. All of them allow you to trigger your Ally's abilities at instead speed. The combo of Ally Encampment and Aether Vial is especially potent here as it allows you do trigger abilities even when both you and your opponent begin to top deck.
4 months ago
usaDiabetic Hahaha honestly I really appreciate your interest in this deck so thank you very much and I really appreciate all the suggestions. That said Here's my opinionn on all options,Retreat to Emeria-- It's got some potential, def a maybeboard.
Hanweir Militia Captain Flip-- Definitely would benefit from the token, but it would become a target the moment It's flipped. One of the main strategies I was thinking of when building this deck is trying to sit below the radar. I want my opponents to have to struggle to pick a target on my board until they withdraw they're moves or aim removal elsewhere in order to maintain value. In HIMYM, Ted dates so many girls in the series, there are only minor moments that hint at him finding the right one. In this deck, we don't want our opponent to know who our winner is until the last season. In order to do that we have to give him an abundance of information to speculate. For this reason, I've also avoided the use of cards like Scytheclaw and Batterskull, because the moment they become attached, we start giving our opponent a reason to look at our board. If we want our opponent to man up and target us we want to make him/her pull the trigger on a full boardwipe and hopefully let it hit the whole board. I'm also using this reason to exclude the following: Bonehoard, Cathedral of War, Duelist's Heritage, and to a lesser extent Citadel Siege (to get boardwide use is too slow).
Sublime Archangel is a lot better than the cathedral, but I doubt I'll get more than 1 turn out of it, plus we run into a similar issue of putting a lot of energy into a 1 turn move.
I like the idea of Pull from Eternity for sure
Archangel of Tithes would be a great pillowfort addition.
I agree with Day of the Dragons being too harmful since none of my tokens will come back. Unless I'm willing to trade my tokens for essentially other tokens I'm gonna count this one out.
I'm gonna put some thought into Soul Separator it has some weird potential.
Keeper of Keys is not bad but I have to make it all the way around the table before he becomes effective and that's a lot of turns for people to notice that I'm about to blow my load. Venser, the Sojourner is better imo but I just wonder if Im going to get more than 1 turn out of him.
Saheeli's Artistry is not bad, it's a pretty high cost but if the artifacts are there then it might be worth it to toss one in for the match. I don't see enough value out of the cards in this deck alone to run it for copying my own stuff.
Back from the Brink will be more counterproductive than eternalize, but it may have potential for others. If I could create a Pull from Eternity and Isochron Scepter setup then there could be some huge value out of Back from the Brink
Murder Investigation depends on if I can fins more value vs the others in the deck since it's not a bad choice.
Lastly, I actually already looked at Foundry of the Consuls and felt like it just cost to much to take up another land spot.