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|Masters 25 (A25)||None|
|Eternal Masters (EMA)||Common|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Common|
|Duel Decks: Venser vs. Koth (DDI)||Common|
|Planar Chaos (PLC)||Common|
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Creature — Cat
Flash (You may cast this spell any time you could cast an instant.)
When Whitemane Lion enters the battlefield, return a creature you control to its owner's hand.
Whitemane Lion Discussion
2 days ago
yeah linvala is pretty decent at stopping up some strategies. The skirmisher might be a better early cut than one of the akroma though.
Now Oketra's Monument is kind of good for mana ramp (these monuments proc their ability off any creature cast, not just the ones it discounts) and you can run cards like Kor Skyfisher or Whitemane Lion to abuse it and go wide on tokens, it gets extra weird when someone I suggest this to also has Divine Visitation (1 mana make an angel when the synergy is built). There is also Hazoret's Monument , while the discount pretty much only hits your commander having a loot engine can help out your minor reanimator strategy and smooth out your draws somewhat closer to that of blue. (it also works to turn land tax's land draws into non lands)
Oh yeah Thalia's Lancers is also a pretty decent tutor.
5 days ago
Ramp, ramp, ramp, ramp.
Having access to Green gives you the simplest and most straightforward ways to gain a huge advantage over your opponents; ramp spells. You have some already. I would add even more.
I agree with bushido_man96 about Abundance . Highly underplayed and under-utilized, it work wonders for you. I do like Explore , though, mainly for the card draw. I wouldn't cut it just yet, although I would find room for Kodama's Reach or even Harrow and the ever-amazing Farseek . Tempt with Discovery is also a bomb.
3 weeks ago
yeah I was considering it for my kaalia deck Heavenly Rakdos where the sac outlet could be Razaketh into a Phyrexian Altar and Fireball like spell. And now that I dig it is possible to replace the Conspiracy in a blue deck with the 3 cmc version that's still in standard or use Artificial Evolution to change bishop to proc off of spirits. It is a combo I stumbled into when I was giving suggestions on another kaalia list for just variety (I am also glad I bought a Conspiracy back when kaalia was first released and it was an under $1 card)
Now for another suggestion you could run the Oketra's Monument and Bontu's Monument for ramp on your creatures, while also getting some extortion and token making procs... that can be abused by creatures like Whitemane Lion !
Also now that I look you might want Orzhov Signet and Talisman of Hierarchy , Dark Ritual can also be powerful ramp which is sadly very important to the general power of commander (hence why green is so popular), all of these are generally cheap, there is also commander's quarters pet card Wayfarer's Bauble . they may not be as cool as gaining all the life and making all the morbid triggers, but they do make the mana cost of the combo more manageable.
3 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
I wrote up a primer for one of my decks, with formatting such as spoilers and panels, and when I pasted it from my Doc into the deck description, it came up with an error saying "one unopened panel". I doubled checked everything, and everything seemed to be okay. Here's my code:
Hello, and welcome to my primer for Angelhorde Invasion! ===accordion ===panel: Introduction This deck is based around casting creatures and getting value from [[God-Eternal Oketra]] and pumping them all up with lords. It is meant for casual EDH/Commander play and is a relatively budget deck. I don’t want anything above 10 USD unless I already own the card or there is a good reason for it to be in the deck (eg [[Ancient Tomb]] is needed as White really needs extra mana and I already have the card from my Dad’s old collection). The general strategy is to ramp out [[God-Eternal Oketra]] and cast a bunch of creatures such as [[Lyra Dawnbringer]] and [[Archangel of Thune]] to get a bunch of token value, then pump them up with lords such as [[Benalish Marshal]] and [[Cathars’ Crusade]]. In the case where I can’t get Oketra out, I can still beatdown with good value creatures and use manasinks to pump out both tokens and +1/+1 counters. ===endpanel ===panel: Why Mono-White? I chose Mono-White for a few reasons: - The first is that I wanted to consistently cast [[God-Eternal Oketra]], so I had to have her as my Commander. - I wanted this to be a relatively budget deck, and the best way to do that is to cut down on the number of colours in a deck, as manabases are very expensive. ===endpanel ===panel: Strengths - There are many combos that can just win the game outright. ===endpanel ===panel: Weaknessess - White lacks card draw that isn’t based on artifacts and/or really, really expensive. ===endpanel ===panel: Combos and Synergies This part is a work in progress, I haven’t played this deck enough to figure out all the combos and synergies. --- - [[God-Eternal Oketra]] + any card in the “Bounce” Category + mana = Instant Army™ - [[Burnished Hart]] + [[Emeria Shepherd]] + mana = more mana and permenant recursion - [[Bishop of Wings]] or [[Requiem Angel]] + [[Divine Visitation]] = Angels that can never die (unless you remove one or two of the two combo pieces) ===endpanel ===spoiler: Card Choices This explains why I put each card in my deck. It will be split into the custom categories that I have put the deck in. ===panel: Lands and Ramp This part is pretty standard, with some ramp, lands, and [[Tithe]] and [[Land Tax]] to get land drop consistency. ===endpanel ===Panel: Lords - Although [[Angel of Jubilation]] doesn’t give +1/+1 to all my Zombie Warriors, she still gives the bonus to my other creatures and stops other people from paying life or sacrificing creatures to cast spells. - Even with the removal of most of my Lifegain package, [[Archangel of Thune]] still has its uses. I still have [[Suture Priest]], [[Auriok Champion]], and my Angel Subtheme and [[Lyra Dawnbringer]], so there are still ways I can gain life. - [[Benalish Marshal]] is a lord for three mana that also gives three devotion. - [[Cathars’ Crusade]] is one of the best cards for creature decks, as it allows you to pump your team for doing nothing but what your gameplan is, casting creatures. - [[Lyra Dawnbringer]] is an Angel Lord and is an efficient beatstick. - [[Spear of Heliod]] provides a lord effect and can deter people from attacking me. ===endpanel ===panel: Multiple Oketras! - I put [[Helm of the Host]] in its own special category because I love the card when I attach it to my commander or some of my other creatures (like [[Admonition Angel]] or [[Emeria Shepherd]]) because it gives so much value and gives me so much satisfaction that I get 2 more Oketras a turn with [[Anointed Procession]]. ===endpanel ===panel: Utility and Card Draw - I use [[Adarkar Valkyrie]] when I want to make sure my commander or any other important creature doesn’t die; it’s like regeneration on a stick. And the best part is, the Angel has vigilance, so I can both attack with it and use its tap power. - [[Aegis of the Gods]] is a simple value creature that gives temporary protection from Burn and hand reveal cards such as [[Thoughtseize]]. - [[Alms Collector]] stops other people from drawing huge amounts of cards, and gives me some too! - [[Bishop of Wings]] supports my Angel subtheme by letting me gain life whenever an Angel enters and makes a Spirit whenever an Angel dies. It has a combo with [[Divine Visitation]], which allows me to make an Angel whenever an Angel dies. - [[Blind Obediance]] allows my deck to catch up to other decks by making all their creatures and artifacts enter the battlefield tapped. It also allows me to extort to get extra value out of my spells. - [[Emeria Shepherd]] gives me recursion whenever I play a land. Because most of my lands are Plains, the Shepherd usually returns the permenant to the battlefield. It combos with [[Burnished Hart]]. - [[Endless Atlas]] allows me to draw a card for only two mana if I have three or more lands with the same name, which is pretty easy to get, considering that this is a Mono-White deck. - [[Enlightened Tutor]] allows me to search for an artifact or enchantment such as [[Cathars’ Crusade]], [[Helm of the Host]] or [[Anointed Procession]]. - [[Grand Abolisher]] stops other people from doing stuff on my turn and gives two devotion for two mana. - Previously a card that I had overlooked, [[Odric, Lunarch Marshal]] gives my guys Double Strike if [[God-Eternal Oketra]] is out, and Vigilance if one of her Zombie Warriors are out. - [[Oketra’s Monument]] makes my creatures cost less and gives me extra value for casting creatures. - [[Reqiuem Angel]] gives me extra value in the form of creature tokens whenever one of my non-Spirit creatures dies. It, like with a bunch of other cards, forms a combo with [[Divine Visitation]]. - [[Slate of Ancestry]] allows me to refill my hand with a bunch of cards when I have run out of gas. ===endpanel ===panel: Removal and Boardwipes - [[Admonition Angel]] is simply removal on a stick. The best way to play with a Admonition out on the board is if you’ve got nothing you want to remove, then just leave lands in your hand until you do. - [[Angel of Sanctions]] is just removal on a creature that can you can recur from the graveyard using its embalm ability. You can also use it with any of the “Bounce” creatures to return it to your hand and remove something more important than what you removed before. - [[Austere Command]] is my only boardwipe because my deck relies alot on creatures, artifacts, and enchantments. - [[Banishing Light]] is simply an enchantment that removes any non-land permanent. - I really like [[Cast Out]] because it has flash and the ability to cycle it for another card when you don’t need it. All that for just one extra mana than a usual [[Oblivion Ring]]. - [[Cavalier of Dawn]] is good, as when it enters, you get to [[Generous Gift]] something, and on the way out, you get to recur an artifact or enchantment. - [[Darksteel Mutation]] is really good when you want to deactivate a commander or another creature that gets returned if it hits the graveyard. - [[Path to Exile]] and [[Swords to Plowshares]] both exile a pesky creature and give their controller a small reparation for doing so. [[Reparations|Sorry I killed your *insert big creature here*, here’s some life]]. - [[Return to Dust]] is simply artifact/enchantment removal. ===endpanel ===panel: Protection - [[Eight-and-a-half-Tails]] gives my guys protection from targeted removal and gives two devotion. - [[Lightning Greaves]] and [[Swiftfoot Boots]] do the same thing, except one gives shroud and one gives hexproof. - [[Selfless Spirit]] protects my creatures from things like removal and boardwipes. - [[Unbreakable Formation]] protects my guys and can pump them up when I am about to do a major attack. ===endpanel ===panel: Value Creatures - [[Archangel of Tithes]] is an Angel, and taxes people for attacking me when she’s untapped, and taxes people from blocking when it attacking. - [[Auriok Champion]] is one of the two cards remaining from my removed lifegain package. The reason why I kept it in is because it has extra value apart from gaining life (Protection from Red and Black and 2 devotion to [[symbol:W]] for two mana). - [[Aven Mindcensor]] is good because it stops people from getting the consistency that tutoring provides in a singleton format, and even if someone did steal it off me, it wouldn’t really matter because I only have 4 cards that tutor cards, 3 of which tutor lands. - Even though [[Brightling]] has the ability to bounce itself, I only use it in emergencies where I can’t do anything else, as it’s expensive, costing [[symbol:1]][[symbol:W]][[symbol:W]][[symbol:W]] to bounce it and cast it again, without a cost reducer out. - I usually just use [[Karmic Guide]] for the Oketra trigger and the recursion and don’t pay the Echo cost unless I don’t have anything else to do or I need the Protection from Black. - I have already talked about [[Lyra Dawnbringer]] in the “Lords” section, so I won’t repeat myself here. - The other Oketra card, [[Oketra the True]] is a good Manasink and a 3/6 Indestructible Double Strike. - [[Resplendent Angel]] is a good value creature, giving a 3/3 flyer with a bunch of other text and two devotion. [[Lyra Dawnbringer]] and Resplendent form a combo. - [[Suture Priest]] punishes my opponents for play creatures and allows me to gain life every time a creature enters. - [[Thalia, Heretic Cathar]] slows my opponents down and gives a 3/2 First Strike. - [[Tithe Taker]] makes all my opponents spend extra to do anything on my turn. ===endpanel ===panel: Bounce - [[Eiganjo Free-Riders]] makes me return a white creature I control to my hand, allowing me cast stuff for extra value again and again, again and again, again and again… - [[Emancipation Angel]], [[Kor Skyfisher]], [[Stonecloaker]], and [[Whitemane Lion]] all do the same thing; getting extra Zombies by bouncing itself back into my hand to cast again. Rinse and Repeat to create an Instant Army™. - [[Stormfront Riders]] is the payoff for all the bounce shenanigans, allowing me to create tokens every time I bounce something. ===endpanel ===panel: Tokens - [[Anointed Procession]] doubles all my tokens, from the Zombie Warriors I create with my commander to the Soldiers I create with [[Stormfront Riders]]. - [[Divine Visitation]] makes all my creature tokens turn into 4/4 Angels with Flying and Vigilance. It has a combo with [[Bishop of Wings]] and goes with my Angel subtheme. - I’ve already talked about [[Oketra the True]] (in “Value Creatures”), [[Oketra’s Monument]] (in “Utility and Card Draw”), and [[Requiem Angel]] (also in “Utility and Card Draw”) elsewhere, so I won’t talk about them here. ===endpanel ===endspoiler ===endaccordion Thanks for taking a look. Hope you liked it!
Can anyone find the error?
3 weeks ago
yeah long ago I kind of attempted a Conspiracy setup in my old Heavenly Rakdos, though back then it was purely to crash in with eldrazi and other big creatures (there was a lot less good kaalia creatures back then)... now that I think about it my kaalia maybe have nearly the critical mass to use conspiracy naming dragon, especially when I nab a 20 kaalia (I'd suggest nabbing one too, she can just be a Painful Truths ).
Now you could lean into razaketh's sac outlet more by maybe running reanimator spells in a higher density like Animate Dead or Lifeline or even Unburial Rites . you could also then play Buried Alive once you got the reanimation critical mass. Final Parting could also be good. Another random idea popped into my head of maybe trying out Oketra's Monument / Whitemane Lion style package and you could build fodder while also having both a means to ramp kaalia and the angels and have a different avenue to protect your big creatures with defensive bounce, you could even reload those one off etb effects.
Now if you are considering the necro I'd maybe suggest running the fast ramp of Dark Ritual as it not only can let you quickly dump necro but you can also use it to dump mana rocks and reach kaalia online faster.
Great I'm in a brewing mood with tcg player open... now I see Bishop of Wings conspiracy combo with razaketh, tutor your whole deck (because if you name angel then all the spirits bishop makes are also angels gaining you 4 life and making another spirit when they die... you could even fail to find and just have infinite life, or find a Phyrexian Altar and Fireball )
3 weeks ago
roon is just a flicker effect where there's other flicker engines at lower cmc or the same cmc but no mana cost and no summoning sickness.
So essentially chulane will be much stronger but for a much different deck.
3 weeks ago
You should be running Mimic Vat .
Add some creatures that tutor. Once you do that then we can think about combos. It would be real easy to do the lab man combos. But there is other combos that work too. Like if you had a bunch of mana dorks you could also play Intruder Alarm and make infinite mana with the bounce effect from the cmdr ultimately drawing the library playing all your lands then play lab man and win.
I think you also could just win with a few strong cards. Like Akroma's Memorial or Triumph of the Hordes . Serra Avatar plus Rogue's Passage and othe large creatures. Maybe you can cast Genesis Wave for alot cause you can ramp so hard.
Another thing is you could sorta donwhat some other decks are already doing and do it better. Like the Oketra deck uses Whitemane Lion with Oketra's Monument to makes tones of tokens. Well you could do the same with other better stuff like Primeval Bounty
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