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Moan of the Unhallowed
Put two 2/2 Zombie creature tokens onto the battlefield.
Flashback (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
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Moan of the Unhallowed Discussion
1 year ago
Keep in mind that Curse of Shallow Graves is not Modern-legal.
It seems like you want this deck to be rather aggressive. I would at the least suggest Vile Rebirth and Moan of the Unhallowed (Gisa's Bidding works similarly) to get your army started early. Having Army of the Damned as a 4-of is not a good idea, as you may flood your opening hand with them. Having it at a 2 or 3-of and having lower-CMC cards that generate tokens would be helpful.
There's a bit of a contradiction going on in your creature base. You want to have Zombies in the graveyard to cast Skaab Goliath and boost Diregraf Colossus, and yet your creatures hold several incentives for the opponent to NOT kill or block them, or they can't be blocked at all (I am looking specifically at Vedalken Ghoul and Rancid Rats here, and I can never talk smack about Diregraf Captain because I love it too much). If you want to set up Goliath/Colossus, you may want to find different creatures or get some cards that send your own cards to the graveyard (the latter can be rather expensive, though).
Hope this helps!
1 year ago
looks like a solid deck! I have a couple ideas that i hope will improve your deck!
Fleshbag Marauder is super good!
Grimgrin, Corpse-Born is great!
Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon seems out of place
Rise from the Tides seems out of place as well
Call to the Grave is very good
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet isn't a zombie but makes them and provides a good effect for commander!
Maybe add a some sources of life gain as well, Whip of Erebos is a good one
1 year ago
1 year ago
Yeah, I'd probably pull the Moan of the Unhalloweds for room. 2 and 2 uncolored for 2 2/2s just doesn't seem like enough value. From Under the Floorboards seems like is COULD be good... but again, the cost... just seems like there's better ways to make tokens. Abusing Cryptbreaker feels like a much better way, to me.
Have you considered adding counterspells? opens up a whole new world of making-the-game-unfun for the person across the table =) A well place counterspell can stop the board wipe that sets you back (it's only a setback for zombies... but it sucks to lose the token swarm), or keeps some game ending enchantment or creature from materializing. Victim of Night protects from some things... but it's dead in your hand against, say, another zombie deck.
1 year ago
@Freezingfist I like the suggestions. I would love to be able to buy a couple Death Baron but my wife would kill me if she learned the cost per card. Undead Warchief and Geralf's Messenger seem like really solid additions. What would you suggest to take out to them in? Maybe From Under the Floorboards and Moan of the Unhallowed I'm not completely sold on them yet.
1 year ago
I bought as my first contact with magic. I've played with friends to the point I regret not buying card sleeves (I played ~40 games of ~60 games played in total). I also went to my local store and they let me play with other decks.
I'm going to the prerelease of karesh so I'm starting there building a deck and playing with the locals. But there are lots of fiends I love to play with, they already love the game (after playing with Blessed vs Cursed) but have no money to spend.
I want to still play with the Blessed vs Cursed decks with friends, but having 'more fun cards'. What I mean is a more complex set of cards. Playing with decks in the shop, all have a strategy in mind and it was a bit more complex and interesting.
My experience with the duel deck, usually when one of the two is winning there is little the other can do. The matches usually are a bit short. I got the feeling they are balanced because I won with either one with no problem.
I think some problems could be consistency in the hands, yesterday playing with a friend I won 3 out of 4. Because he was really unlucky and there was little he can do.
My plan for both decks:
I want to take advantage of this combination:
Champion of the Parish with blinking.
Something in this line when blessed improves on some warriors and creates some extra weak forces but great in number. I don't know if increasing the number of copies will create this effect. I really like Gather the Townsfolk.
We don't seem to find any place for Cobbled Wings or Driver of the Dead, and we like the horde of zombies cursed could bring to the table, but we like more zombies.
I want to go to the shop with an idea this week and expand this month card budget in this idea. But I don't know if it's any good or it's just plain stupid. Also having so many cards available to buy, I just want some guidance and advice. Is my idea any good or reasonable?
To clarify my question. Based on my idea to improve is there any there is any card (or list of cards) I should take into account? I'm looking to show more of what magic has to offer just with this two decks.
Other things I'll experience are Planeswalkers, there is fun to play with. But the decks have none.
Some cards I've seen:
1 year ago
For replacements: Gisa's Bidding for Moan of the Unhallowed. It's mostly the same; doesn't have flashback, but you can madness it in (potentionaly instant speed). Or if you'd prefer more power, than there is From Under the Floorboards. Also the potential for madness with a chance for even more power. (I'd actualy recomend both.)
And instead of Relentless Skaabs I would recomend Geralf's Masterpiece. It's potentionaly 7/7 flier, enables madness and lets you get Amalgams and other cards into graveyard (and also takes Amalgam out right away).
I hope this helps. I purposefuly kept the suggestions in cheaper cards.
1 year ago
I'd try to acquire some copies of Relentless Dead, they are great all around. Also, try to get a playset of Cryptbreaker, it works great with Gravecrawler and Amalgam and can draw you tons of cards. It's also super cheap to reanimate with Relentless Dead! Try to up the Diregraf Captain to 4 copies, it's really useful. Rancid Rats, Mindwrack Demon River Kelpie, Screeching Skaab and Harvester of Souls are OK for now I think, but are prime targets for upgrades in the future. Good creatures for this deck could include Death Baron, Lord of the Undead, Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip, Nantuko Husk, Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip, Sultai Emissary, Rotting Rats, Quest for the Gravelord, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed or Sidisi, Undead Vizier.
Moan of the Unhallowed is pretty weak and should be omitted, Sever the Bloodline is too Mana hungry for a Modern removal spell, you should cut those out as well. 4xDread Return is also a bit too much, rather play Gisa and Geralf or Relentless Dead where you get a body in addition to Reanimation effects. Useful removal would be Tragic Slip, Go for the Throat and Dark Salvation, super cheap and Slip/Salvation can kill Indestructible creatures. Geth's Verdict can be good if people around you play lots of Hexproof creatures. Dream Twist is also rather mediocre, how about Thought Scour instead?
As for your lands, there are a couple of options with a low pricetag. Choked Estuary, Sunken Hollow and Drowned Catacomb are cheap and help to smooth out your draws. Cards with double-black or double-blue in their costs could use a lot of dual-lands so that you always have a way to play them. Try to include some and shift the balance a bit more in favour of Swamps or until you feel comfortable, I think Black is your most important Mana resource and you should have around 20 sources of Black (including Dual Lands).