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Vessel of Endless Rest
When ~ enters the battlefield, put target card in a graveyard on the bottom of its owner's library.T: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
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Vessel of Endless Rest Discussion
2 weeks ago
Hooray for a Teysa deck that actually feels Orzhov-y! Too many Teysa (especially the other Teysa) end up feeling like some strange Izzet contraption. This deck feels like an Orzhov deck should, and I like that about it.
However, my biggest complaint against the deck is how mana-hungry it is. With an average CMC of over 4 and a commander that costs a whopping 7, I'd really consider running more ramp/lands. Beckon Apparition, for example, can be cut for something like Vessel of Endless Rest, which will still annoy your reanimator opponents, while generating mana for you to use.
Souls of the Faultless looks like it would be good, but seems like it will get ignored without flying or reach.
Personally, the fact that Sin Collector and Vizkopa Confessor only target one opponent makes me usually want to cut them, because in a typical 4 player game, your average opponent has lost 1/3 of a card, and you've used 1. But if your playgroup is typically on the smaller side, or you know you have problems with a specific combo deck, then they can be used, but Sadistic Sacrament is probably better at that effect.
3 months ago
So, let's work on making this deck a bit better. Don't get me wrong, this deck is good, but there are a couple of things that we can swap to make it better. Some of these you may not agree with. But consider the ideas behind the recommendations.
For the mana base, look at Temple of Triumph, Battlefield Forge, Ancient Amphitheater, Needle Spires, Wind-Scarred Crag, Vivid Meadow, Vivid Crag, Boros Guildgate, Opal Palace and Command Tower. I think you should get a many lands that tap for both colors into the deck as you can afford. Secluded Steppe and Reliquary Tower should probably come out to make room for better lands. Plateau and Rugged Prairie are just too expensive to really recommend.
Replace Armillary Sphere with a Burnished Hart which has a better synergy in the deck. A 2/2 attacker or blocker that can be equipped and can be recurrred with Sun Titan seems really good.
Ride Down just seems like a crappy spot removal card. If you need more removal, consider a good old Wrath of God, Blasphemous Act, the new Star of Extinction as a board wipes.
Vessel of Endless Rest should be swapped with a Boros Signet. The Boros Signet hits a turn earlier, allows you to convert colorless mana from the Ghost Quarter, Reliquary Tower, Rogue's Passage, Seraph Sanctuary, Slayers' Stronghold, and the Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion. If you want to keep the Vessel of Endless Rest, then I would still recommend adding the Boros Signet anyway.
Akroma, Angel of Fury has always been a weak version of Akroma, Angel of Wrath and I've never really felt that it was that good a card. Her 'can't be countered' is nice but the morph ability seems tacked on just to fit the Time Spiral block's mechanic themes and not to make the card better.
Mikaeus, the Lunarch is ok, but you really aren't utilizing a +1/+1 counter theme in this deck and he feels a little slow. The X casting cost makes him more situational.
Tajic, Blade of the Legion is an underwhelming 2/2 for 4 mana. Yes, the indestructible is nice, but I've never really been in a situation where I was happy to draw that card. I just feel that there are better creatures.
Combat Celebrant is stuck with the horrible Exert mechanic. Why would I ever swing out and leave myself stuck not being able to untap my lands the next turn? Too risky. Especially in a multi-player environment. Just bad, cut it. World at War, Waves of Aggression, Scourge of the Throne, and Aggravated Assault would be much better options for multiple combat phases.
I know I previously recommended the Ranger of Eos but I don't think this deck is going for quick creatures. This deck is more about dropping bombs and making people deal with your threats. So the Ranger of Eos, Mikaeus, the Lunarch may not really fit this theme as well as other cards. After looking over the deck some more and looking at some of the options below, we may have to cut the Whitemane Lion and the Flametongue Kavu to make some room.
True Conviction, is a 'wins more' card. The card is strong, but only helps in a few situations. Let look at three different situations to see how interacts with the board state.
1: You have 4 or 5 creatures in play and you are attacking each turn. You are applying a significant ammount of combat damage to your opponents. You have a good chance of winning the game in the next couple of turns, depending on blockers. Does a True Conviction help in this situation? Not really. Can you win without it? Why cast it?
2: You have 4 or 5 creatures on the field, and a True Conviction. Someone board wipes with a Final Judgement. The next turn you get a creature on the field. The True Conviction gives your dude life link and double strike. This time it will help you stay in the game a bit longer and rebuild faster.
3: You have 4 or 5 creatures on the field. Someone board wipes with a Final Judgement. This time, instead of drawing a blocker, you top deck the True Conviction. Is this what you need now? No. You need boots on the ground, a blocker.
What do you think? And, before you ask, yes, I'll be reconsidering this card in my Brion Stoutarm deck.
Alright. Now that we've looked at things to cut, lets look at some options.
Angrath's Marauders would act as an additional Gisela, Blade of Goldnight. Firebrand Archer and Harsh Mentor are good ways to ping each opponent. Archetype of Aggression, Archetype of Courage, Odric, Lunarch Marshal could be really broken and dramtically alter combat. Homura, Human Ascendant works well with Brion Stoutarm and Gideon's Avenger could be outrageous. Kumano, Master Yamabushi has never let me down. Aegis of the Gods and Magus of the Moat provide some defensive options. The Defy Death and Herald of War you already have to provide you with a lot of resiliency and flexibilty with the addition of a Angel of Glory's Rise. Vanquisher's Banner would be really go in this deck naming either 'Human' or 'Angel'.
And thanks to all of the work I've put in on making suggestions to your deck, I've got to go back and update my Brion Stoutarm deck. So check back on that deck in a week or so. As always, temper these suggestions with your budget, collection, and play style. Feel free to let me know what you think of these recommendations.
3 months ago
Whirler Rogue is a lot better than Urbis Protector here. While it creates less raw power, it's also cheaper and the fact that it can make Brago unblockable is very important.
Vessel of Endless Rest is a mana rock with a relevant enters-the-battlefield trigger, I like that more than Seashell Cameo.
I am really no fan of counterspells that cost more than 2 in a deck with so many expensive creatures etc - you just can't keep up three mana for Cancel or Dissipate to protect Brago when you also want to cast spells like Medomai the Ageless. At least Render Silent comes with a nice upside, but the other 3cmc counters I would replace with cheaper alternatives like Negate or Dispel - while weaker overall, they protect Brago quite well, and that's their most important job. If he lives, you should be in great shape.
4 months ago
Right now Vessel of Endless Rest serves as some mini graveyard hate, but I haven't playtested the deck to the point where I feel confident that it belongs. I have some different mana fixers on the way to replace the taplands so Vessel might not be necessary in the long run. I swapped Gilded Lotus for Talisman of Indulgence for the same reason.
I put Quicksilver Amulet, Strionic Resonator, and Panharmonicon as a way to build off Kaalia's ability and get my A/D/D's into action more reliably. Unfortunately, I have yet to put any of them to good use, but I haven't playtested them enough to say for sure that they don't belong.
Authority of the Consuls is coming out for something better. I had Cloudshift in mind but Reconnaissance seems like a good option too. Vampire Nighthawk is specifically what i had in mind for those types of cards!
I hear you on Swiftfoot Boots, I keep getting them mixed up with Lightning Greaves so I accidentally ordered extra of the latter when I meant to buy the former. I do have a pair of boots coming in the mail though! And yeah, after sleeping on it, I'd rather have a big A/D/D than Thalia.
I'll have to update this when I get the new cards into the deck. Until then, thanks for all your suggestions!
4 months ago
I know Tunnel Vision is the standard combo with Vessel of Endless Rest but that is . You have quite a few mana rocks in there, but it does make the any color mana for you. I assume your trying to hard cast / Quicksilver Amulet, which is a little different that my Kaalia of the Vast build where I try and cheat them in (rarely cast, sometime unburial Animate Dead/Reanimate), using Swiftfoot Boots and Dragon Tempest and Steelshaper's Gift to pull Lightning Greaves to my hand.
Do you find Strionic Resonator useful in this build? You have 18 targets that she can cast, assuming you hard cast Restoration Angel and Emancipation Angel that leaves 16, I find in my build with 22 targets, sometimes I don't even have an A/D/D in my hand to play, let alone 2. I would increase my A/D/D count to really utilize it, but I haven't play tested it so you may find that it does work.
I really like all the new powerhouse A/D/D you've got in there now!
Authority of the Consuls is definitely one of your weaker cards now, no one blocks the A/D/D and you protect Kaalia of the Vast but she has Flying so already has build in block evasion (+Maze of Ith, etc). Reconnaissance is good for this too, and it can pull back the A/D/D you drop in as well if needed, like flying into a Vampire Nighthawk or something.
Everything is solid though, it's a good build. Thalia, Guardian of Thraben is an awesome card, but I would rather have a Swiftfoot Boots or another draw like Bloodgift Demon over her trying to slow others down, plus she makes your mana rocks more expensive, even a Silverblade Paladin i would prefer over her.
4 months ago
Spirits, thanks so much for the suggestions!
A lot of the changes I was looking at are along the same lines. Some of the cards you've identified are hold-overs for something better, so these suggestions help.
Regarding Vessel of Endless Rest, it's in here as a budget manarock, but I don't necessarily know what it combos with. Open to suggestions on that regard if it fits with this deck.
4 months ago
Here are some potential cuts:
Ruthless Ripper | He's too small, and not going to do much for you
Skyblinder Staff | Not necessary
Vessel of Endless Rest | Planning to infinite combo this?
Congregate | Rarely going to be too valuable / too situational
One or a couple of these should get you Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker in there.
Some other suggestions:
Bloodgift Demon gives you an extra draw each turn for under $1
Hope that helps!
5 months ago
Oh ok. That makes a lot more sense. You could use Vessel of Endless Rest to get it back in the library. It's a one shot though, and not the best rock for mono green. Oh and no shuffle effect so double poop