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Put two 1/1 red Elemental creature tokens onto the battlefield. Then flip a coin. If you win the flip, return Molten Birth to its owner's hand.
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Molten Birth Discussion
1 week ago
Hey there! Looks like a solid deck to me! There are a few cards that I would consider adding, though, mostly just EDH staples:
- Blasphemous Act
- Chaos Warp
- Reforge the Soul
- Temple of the False God
- Mind Stone
- Outpost Siege
- Vance's Blasting Cannons Flip
- Hammer of Purphoros
- Forgotten Cave
- Solemn Simulacrum
- Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
- Ogre Battledriver
- Faithless Looting
- Zealous Conscripts (goes infinite with Kiki-Jiki)
- Dualcaster Mage
- Magus of the Wheel
- Mana Geyser
- Burnished Hart
- Dictate of the Twin Gods
And then some cards that work particularly well with Purphoros:- Rakka Mar- Flameshadow Conjuring- Tooth and Claw- Pia and Kiran Nalaar- Goblin Warchief- Goblin Matron- Ogre Battledriver- Embermaw Hellion- Burn at the Stake- Goblin King
Some cards that I would consider cutting:
- Dragon Fodder
- Krenko's Command
- Fiery Gambit
- Molten Birth
- Thatcher Revolt
- Generator Servant
- Harsh Mentor
- Kari Zev, Skyship Raider
- Zurgo Bellstriker
In any case, sweet deck! Good luck!
5 months ago
Hey bro, I love it! Neheb is one of my fave legendary creatures, I just hate that he lost his black mana. :( I do have a few suggestions for you up and coming EDH deck. Hopefully I don't go too expensive.
Mana Ramp: I recommend running at least 8 mana ramping spells. Braid of Fire, Mana Crypt, Caged Sun, Extraplanar Lens (only if you have Snow lands), Gauntlet of Might, Gauntlet of Power, or Pyromancer's Goggles.
Afflict: I'd run all the afflict creatures that are red. Afflict is a fun ability.
Continuous Damage: I'd run spells that have a continuous damage. I didn't find any due to time, but I'm sure there are some creatures and enchantments that do continuous damage.
7 months ago
Rzepkanut I was aware of Firecat Blitz, but as the tokens exile at the end of turn, they don't trigger Omnath. Molten Birth is quite a cheap spell for a commander slot. You can only have 99 singleton cards, using one of those slots in a card that puts two 1/1 kinda useless creatures in play seems really weak. On the other hand Tempt with Vengeance can put any amount of elemental tokens, and being a ramp deck, it can probably do an interesting job
7 months ago
8 months ago
sarkhanisverybroken: Thanks for the long comment, I really appreciate it! In order:
I used to run Molten Birth, but it just turned out to be too slow :( the fact that it conditionally returns to my hand was too unreliable. I eventually replaced it with Mogg Alarm (because it can be cast without mana on my combo turn if I need more tokens) but that got cut eventually too.
Goblin Chirurgeon is a good idea - what would you cut for it?
I also used to run Isochron Scepter (it's an amazing card in general) but, astonishingly, it didn't end up pulling its weight. There were too many times when it was a dead card in hand...and the repeatability was not worth as much as I originally thought. I only get one combo turn usually - my opponents keep Zada off the board whenever they have the chance.
I've considered Plague Myr before...but I generally don't like infect much, and it seems like the colorless mana is a heavy downside. Does it work well in your list? I don't have much to give it trample...
Chaos Warp is an amazing card...but slots are really, really tight in this deck. What would you cut for it?
I used to run Balduvian Rage, Aleatory, Chaotic Strike, etc for additional sources of card draw. However, their timing restrictions simply kill the deck - because all of my mana from rituals fizzles when I change phase - and the delayed draw is also really, really dangerous. I swapped in Blazing Shoal to replace the pump effect, and have never regretted it.
Do you have a list online? I'd love to look it over if you want :)
Also, you're welcome to give an upvote if you like the deck! We Zada players have got to stick together #ZadaLife ;)
8 months ago
Hey, maybe add Molten Birth it is a recursive token maker that helps if you are waiting to go off.
8 months ago
Hey, budlaorf. Woah, a lot of those cards sound super familiar. Let me remember what my thoughts are for them:
Young Pyromancer is too slow. I have to cast a sorcery for him to be usable, just the same with Guttersnipe who does damage without Purphoros. I don't like him to sit and wait for me to play another card to work off his effects. You might not even get a token from him every turn.
Increasing Vengeance I took out because it only targets MY spells. Just a few hours ago, I was able to Fork a Temporal Mastery! You want to be able to target your opponents, as they have access to other spells you normally won't.
Molten Birth was in the deck temporarily, but pulled out. I wasn't able to keep it in hand, as I kept going tails. Also, for a sorcery spell, 2 creatures for 3 mana... I figured to replace it for Hordeling Outburst, 3 tokens for 3.
Goblin Dark-Dwellers could be good, but it's too similar to Increasing Vengeance. 3 or less sorcery/instant in my graveyard. I won't be able to use Fork or similar cards, because there would be nothing in the stack to copy. I just checked maybe 10 cards total it would reuse, but it's all situational.
Good thoughts, thank you for getting me to remember some good cards. :D
8 months ago
Molten Birth would give you a chance to keep casting it over and over.
The Goblin Dark-Dwellers could almost be another Siege-Gang Commander, that allows you to recast Krenko's Command, Dragon Fodder, Hordeling Outburst, Molten Birth along with the added bonus of letting you recast your other useful spells such as Chaos Warp, Reverberate, Fork, Reverberate, Shattering Spree, and Wheel of Fortune.
Increasing Vengeance would give you another copy effect with flashback.