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Since you are casting your commander an obscurely large amount of times aren't there any dual colored cards NIV could hit with extort or similar effects to Vela at lower CMC? seeing as drawing Vela could suck big time at certain stages of the game ()...
While during the food chain line extort (or other stuff) could act the same way but be less of a dead draw perhaps... That is if there are any good ones that have similar effects when a permanent leaves the battlefield... I personally doubt it as I couldn't think of any really but I might be overlooking something???
And since some Tazri builds also use hulk/hermit have you consider making a separate version that uses them? because there are certain lines that could also get your food chain or just win of a hermit activation!!!
Don't know if it is worth it to go as far as hulk/hermit lines with this new Niv, but seeing as it's quite new it could be useable!
April 21, 2019 6:03 a.m.
Timetwister should just be banned from the format, unhealthy pay to win card...
April 15, 2019 7:27 a.m.
@Ryanh12 Hey, Simply said our win con is that of a hard lock... For example, Winter Orb + Trinisphere + Derevi, Empyrial Tactician and some simple mana dorks to attack with or other Stax creatures to go face with...
Generally, it is also known Derevi's win condition is not losing the game... and as soon as 1 person wins you lost as the second or third place don't matter...
This is only a very small example of different kinds of interaction or synergy each card has with each other in the deck and is very relevant and strong versus "true" CEDH combo decks... And for every CEDH deck, there is a card in here that could stop them from using their combo (This does not mean that the game is over for them as they can still remove pieces, but generally we keep adding until it becomes impossible to come back from hence a "hard lock Stax victory").
I advise you to go through the very primer I wrote if you wish to learn the details of the one and only not copied Derevi CEDH Stax list ;) (with an added sideboard to combat meta!)
(There is a section at the bottom where other people reply to a question I posted on every "True CEDH" deck as to what would stop them... And most of the kind authors of the relevant CEDH decks have answered to that question which I already knew the answer for but just so people can see it for themselves :) !!!)
April 12, 2019 1:28 a.m.
@oliveoilonyaasscureshemorrhoid I have a little part in my Primer near the bottom that says "New releases? New Stax?" You'll find what I feel and think about cards from new sets there. Although I don't really specify all the time whether a card is a must have or it is just plain bad, But I do this because I keep budget and other kinds of play outside of CEDH in mind too as people and meta are different...
Yet we do strife for a zero redundant CEDH deck here so the analysis you can make or assume to be correct goes as follows;
Is it in the decklist at the moment?
Why is it not(mostly expressed in the new release section and sometimes on new releases new cards aren't added to tapped out yet)?
Will my own Meta actually suffer more if I side it in for something mister Kiyomei is running but has absolutely no use in my meta (For example Hushwing Gryff is a meta call for me because of kiki's, Animar's, Yisan's, ETB good stuff, and so much more...)?
does the card really compare to what we already are running and that is kind of similar to it but for example cheaper or easier to cast? (Goes for Dorks or other things too)
Can it come down early in a game and stop a deck for a turn or 2?
Is it a dead card draw during the later stages of the game?
Can it actually block certain combo's by itself in some scenarios?
And you're always welcome to join the Discord! (If you scroll up you might find a discussion of certain new releases or you can always just ask away, plenty of Derevi pilots that can help and have experience!)
April 10, 2019 3:13 p.m.
so I'll adjust my sideboard accordingly,
-1 Harbinger of the Tides + 1 Echoing Truth so I have 2x Echoing Truth and 2x Hurkyl's Recall ( i went with echoing because I feel like I should not be troubled too much by creatures that should force me to run vapor snag due to island-walk being a thing.)
For the mainboard, I am either thinking of taking out the Merrow Reejerey as you said because it isn't as popular anymore... and put in 4 Benthic Biomancer ? was also looking at Phantasmal Image for more lords and stuff but that doesn't get played either + it dies to bounce :s... Or play the 4 retorts mainboard and add the biomancers in the side if I really need to race or have card draw while pitching some dead lands draws in the late game sound good as well. aaaaaaaaaaaaa decisions xD
April 8, 2019 1:31 a.m.
I'm looking at death shadows, storm, Tron, 8rack, infect, also saw some knight of the reliquary stuff before don't really know what the archetype is called, lantern control, affinity, hollow one, uw control, fearies, I've also seen something that cheeses "restore balance" into play with as "foretold" but also don't know the name of that deck... , dredge, valakut, elves and prolly some others that don't really have a name or i am not aware of...
Anyhow I'm not really as invested into playing this at tournament level but I do want to have it work versus the current metagame and have it be relevant so I'm liking Vapor Snag and Echoing Truth ... I like Wizard's Retort and Mana Leak even more as it is easier to cast without requiring a wizard to be in play... that said though it's not a hard counter like retort is in the mid/late game where some might be able to pay the 3 mana and I'll just have to learn those match-ups i guess where that is relevant xD!
Deprive will probably also have its place in some decks as it can act as a mid to late game hard counter with no drawbacks, but early one it could hurt you as well so not a fan of that really...
April 8, 2019 1:08 a.m.
what sort of disruption would you recommend me to run? seeing as I don't really have a meta and play all over the place on fnm or just friendly games but nothing serious like tournaments or leagues :)
that said i still want best in slot ofc xD
(cookiecutter stuff ftw!)
April 7, 2019 11:31 a.m.
care to explain how Rhystic Study is a dead card HAHAHA, do your opponents not play magic and play yu-gi-ho at your table or ??? xD
Snapcaster Mage is far more forgiving to cast and leaves a body in the current Tymna meta...
Nexus of Fate doesn't really do anything but shuffle back from time to time... does make you immune to super casual mill strategies but apart from that it is very dead and has an extremly high CMC, don't know if you're able to loop it probably you could but considering you already have a massive outlet in enter the infinite loops and adding another layer might add more redundant cards to the deck while the game should already be over at that point no?...
April 5, 2019 1:41 a.m.
ty Dankey , Seems the creator hasn't been very active so I appreciate the response! Have you been playing this deck for a long time? if so perhaps you could take over the build and adjust it to the current meta and card pool.
I'm aware one spell a turn and the likes also hurt the deck but yeah, I have asked all the decks currently on the power list the same question to add to my Derevi Stax primer for personal and helpful reference that the deck is still very relevant in today's fast combo meta if tuned properly. though it's always a tad weird if I don't include the author's response with the deck link if that makes sense. I still appreciate it though and if you are able to have your version I'd be happy to include it in my primer!
(I'm well aware of what stops all the good stuff hence the enormous effort in my Derevi primer, yet it is always nice for the fans to have some reference from where all of this Stax is coming and to show just how much decks get blocked under certain circumstances.)
April 3, 2019 2:37 p.m.
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