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Patron of the Arts
Creature — Dragon Noble
When Patron of the Arts enters the battlefield or dies, create a treasure token. (It's a colourless artifact with ", Sacrifice this artifact: Add one mana of any colour.")
plakjekaas on People's Thoughts on Mommy Norn?
1 year ago
No, she doesn't shut down shocklands. Paying life for your shockland is not a trigger. It does not use the stack, you cannot react to it, just like you can't react to the creature type being named with a Cavern of Souls. Because the oracle text says "As ... enters the battlefield" not "When ... enters the battlefield".
It looks like the people defending her never played with Tocatli Honor Guard, Hushbringer, Torpor Orb or Hushwing Gryff and have no idea what the oracle text actually means. And Norn is worse, since it's every permanent entering the battlefield, not just creatures. Like Strict Proctor.
TypicalTimmy I looked at your Miirym deck, here's the "occasional benefits" Elesh Norn is actually going to shut down or interfere with:
That's a lot of synergy, ramp, carddraw and wincons shut down by a commander. About 1/3rd of all your nonland cards. And that deck is going to have a hard time removing her too, by the looks of it.
Now there are a few cards that get better playing against Norn: bouncelands like Boros Garrison don't return lands to hand anymore, Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger doesn't need to sacrifice itself, but effects like those are not enough to catch up with the Norn player.
What's this "no game-winning effects in white" everyone is talking about? Cathars' Crusade will end the game in a hurry, especially if you pair it up with something like Blessed Sanctuary. Double up on every O-ring effect. Stonehorn Dignitary will keep you alive, especially if you play Teleportation Circle and Conjurer's Closet, as one definitely will in this deck. Felidar Retreat and Emeria Shepherd with all your Land Tax effects will snowball into an enormous boardstate easily. Solitude will rule the table. Sun Titan is still one of the most played white creatures for a reason. For carddraw that white wasn't supposed to have, Spirited Companion, Carrier Pigeons, Combat Thresher, Farsight Adept, Inspiring Overseer, Mentor of the Meek, Priest of Ancient Lore, Resistance Squad, Roving Harper, Rumor Gatherer, Search Party Captain, Skyscanner, Thraben Inspector, Wall of Omens all double up with Norn. Because everyone memed that white is a bad colour, nobody seems to know what the color has to offer. It could already hold its own without such a saltmine of a card for the command zone, and if you need this middle finger to half the popular deck archetypes to even consider building it, you do you, but prepare to be avoided.
Gleeock on TypicalTimmy
1 year ago
As far as Xira, the Golden Sting goes, I think she is pretty darn open-ended. I usually have a strong grasp on Junding in various ways... but as a Timmy myself, my removal suite is usually more incidental & I don't usually gear toward control as much as I do to plopping out a fun boardstate build.
I am trying to make mine removaltastic with creatures that can continue that train (easy in Jund). IMO there are better commanders for express swing-wide strategies so I decided I would lean into polymorphing with my commander-supplied 1/1 or supplied in various other ways. Though I have another Jund deck that successfully random cheats into all the Dragon Broodmother sudden swarm creatures you can imagine.
Anyway, since I am trying to ride the removal, card draw, & timmy-morph my bugs... I am not doing much for the swarm strategy & I am avoiding small buildup creatures. I imagine if you wanted to go that direction you could consider the efficiency of "egg countering" some of your own efficiency sac fodders such as Sakura-Tribe Elder or Patron of the Arts - then you would draw a card & replace those bodies.
Housegheist on
1 year ago
I noticed a lack of interaction. I would recommend playing Blasphemous Act and/or Chain Reaction as they deal with opponents boardstate and are a surprise i-win-condition with Wrathful Red Dragon.
Monster Manual can cheat your Dragons into play and is (still) budget friendly.
Orb of Dragonkind fixes mana as a 2 cmc rock and can dig into your library.
Patron of the Arts is a nice on-theme ramp creature which provides 2 treasures total.
Other than that, i like it, that you stick on creatures not on specific dragons and clones :) I tried a take on Miirym by myself. Maybe you want to take a look
Miirym or Double the Fun
Commander / EDH*
SCORE: 10 | 13 COMMENTS | 665 VIEWS | IN 1 FOLDER
MortisAngelus on
Dragons
1 year ago
This seems to be more a collection of awesone dragons and spells, but playability of this seems very poor due to your mana base.
First of all, you need to ramp up your... Ramping. And you need more lands. Below 36 lands is not to be recommended here, because you have expensive stuff to cast.
Second of all, what is Burnished Hart doing here? Take that out and add in something like Kodama's Reach and Cultivate. If you need temporary blockers, consider Farhaven Elf and Wood Elves. The brand new Patron of the Arts is a nice temporary mana boost and excellent blocker-creature.
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