Cowardice
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Cowardice

Enchantment

Whenever a creature becomes the target of a spell or ability, return that creature to its owner's hand. (It won't be affected by the spell or ability.)

wallisface on Blinking Cowards

6 months ago

Some thoughts:

carpecanum on

1 year ago

Wojek Embermage, Cosmotronic Wave

If you have a lot of pingers you can have fun with Neko-Te and Cowardice. Quicksilver Dagger maybe

Dormin53 on Ghyrson Starn, Kelermorph [Gunslinger]

1 year ago

Those are awesome suggestions! I really like Wojek Embermage. Cosmotronic Wave I'm not sure about. The second clause with stopping blockers is good but almost all my creatures won't be swinging during combat.

You had an excellent point with Silverclad Ferocidons and Ghyrson Starn, Kelermorph. That interaction occurred to me with other cards like Pyrohemia and Yamabushi's Storm or even lands like Shivan Reef.

Staff of Nin could certainly be replaced and likely not even noticed. Perhaps adding the Cyclonic Rift?

Regarding Cowardice, I like the idea of being able to protect from board wipes or just targeted removal.. but that could certainly backfire depending on how many targeted spells or abelites my opponents have..

Thank you both for the suggestions and comments! carpecanum, thefiresoflurve

carpecanum on Ghyrson Starn, Kelermorph [Gunslinger]

1 year ago

Dismiss into Dream kills indestructible however. I'd put it into more decks if I had more copies of it. Cowardice however, could be dropped. It a great chaos card but it hurts you, especially because you can't equip stuff.

I also thought about suggesting you cut Staff of Nin but I don't feel as comfortable suggesting cuts. I'm weird that way.

lagotripha on

2 years ago

This looks fine - commander is a more casual format, so there is a lot less pressure on what you must play. I'd look at only spending money on commander staples and filling out the rest from magic history. You've got 25 spots or so left, and some bigger spells and mana rocks will fill most of that.

Sol Ring, Clockspinning, Mind Games and mana rocks is the only thing I look and think 'must include'- being able to clone rocks with Orvar and reuse spells makes them a lot more important in a format they already like. Capsize is a neat option, but here the 1 mana stuff that leaves it on the board is better, so its not essential.

The higher mana curve is important to remember - the expectation to pay 6+ mana creatures and spells means that there are a lot of sweet options - most of them budget.

Its all about what feels best to play with your playgroup. Not everyone likes abrupt mono blue 'I win the game' setups, but orvar lets you mess around with stuff like AEtherling in a far more casual way too. Use judgement.

Its important to remember that while a lot of clone effects revolve around creatures, Orvar can make The Mirari Conjecture or similar enchantments/artifacts/planswalkers/lands go pretty wild. This means if you want to do the silliest of combos, stuff like Arcane Melee,Cowardice or Dismiss into Dream lets you massively misuse a spells-and-permanents matter deck.

enpc on Kenrith Deck Help

2 years ago

Your deck is being pulled in too many directions. You have Pili-Pala + Grand Architect (which is not a good combo outside of artifact decks) and Deadeye Navigator + Peregrine Drake, neither of which have any form of redundancy or overlap. You also have waaaaay too many win conditions in the deck. Kenrith is an infinite mana sink, i.e. with infinite mana you win the game through his abilities alone - either forcing your oppoenents to deck out or beating with infinite sized creatures.

Additionally, a bunch of the infinite combos you do run also have zero redundancy or overlap, meaning that you have to get that one other card or the combo is useless.

You'd be much better off focusing on adding more ways to generate infinite that have overlapping parts, since once you have that and Kenrith, you don't need a huge density of win conditions.

For example, if you're going down the lands based mana combos then you should be looking into adding cards like Palinchron/Great Whale, Eternal Witness, Ghostly Flicker, Tooth and Nail etc (as well as adding more land fetching ramp). Hell, with Kenrith you could even look into a repeatable sac outlet, Peregrine Drake and Mirari's Wake (or Nyxbloom Ancient would be better) as yet another loop. Bue either way, now your mana combos are protected so that you can lose any one piece and you're still covered. And you increase the chance of drawing into it since you don't necessarily need to draw a specific card, you have 2-3 different cards that can fit that bill.

I run a Kenrith list (which admittedly has a much higher budget) which focuses on generating infinite mana then going from there. What I have tried to do is to keep the combos to two central themes - one is around tapping mana dorks/rock and the other is around flickering to generate infinite mana. however what you'll see is that all the pieces are designed to interact with each other, providing the deck with many ways to form infinite mana while also leaning on other functions of the deck to do so (in this case mana dorks/rocks). This means that by the simple act of ramping, the deck is setting up its combos.

deck: King me! King me!

Also, I would look at ditching Cowardice - it's only good against expensive beaters that don't have good ETBs.

Grubbernaut on Kenrith, the Omnipotent

2 years ago

With Kenny, I like sac effects because it guarantees I can reanimate the creature for value. Fleshbag Marauder, Demon's Disciple, Merciless Executioner, Plaguecrafter, etc.

Bloom Tender is great, as is Phantasmal Image. Of course, Dockside+loops. Ranger-Captain of Eos is great with recursion. Cataclysmic Gearhulk is also a good backup plan for when things go wrong, and easier to reuse because you can sac it to itself. On that note, any of the Altars or other sac outlets are great. There's Peregrine Drake loops, too, and it's also just great for value if you have a cost reducer out for Kenny.

Some cards I think would be worth considering swapping out: Esika, God of the Tree  Flip, Burnished Hart, Ethersworn Adjudicator (IMO, Caustic Caterpillar is best, or Cathar Commando for artifact/enchantment hate), Ghostly Prison, Propaganda, Celestial Dawn.

You could probably justify going down on lands if you upped your dork count, which would play really well if you added Ashnod's Altar to use them for mana later. City of Brass is also a pretty budget rainbow land. Chittering Witch is a good source of removal, blockers, or fodder for sac effects. Renegade Rallier and Sun Titan can make for some explosive turns, as well. Shriekmaw is great for targeted removal that can later be reanimated. Cowardice and Willbreaker are more nice effects like Horobi. Fires of Invention can be another effect like Wilderness Reclamation, and doesn't limit Kenny's activations.

But finally, my absolute most favorite card when playing casual Kenny is Final Parting. Basically another Jarad's Orders, but adding Unburial Rites or Priest of Fell Rites makes it a tight package to reanimate a fatty, or tutor one of your enchantments if needed.

Cheers!

balefire123 on Tibor and Lumia Deathslingers

2 years ago

I like this! An uncommon Commander with some spice in the list. This seems the perfect deck for Student of Elements  Flip, and I don't think I've seen a better list for Mass Diminish and Polymorphist's Jest.

The easiest addition, imo, is Trinket Mage to fetch Basilisk Collar, Sol Ring, etc.

Cards like Archaeomancer and Ardent Elementalist aren't particularly exciting, but they do help by adding more recursion/redundancy to the deck. The Mirari Conjecture does something similar, but with an added bonus after two turns.

Enchantments like Dismiss into Dream and Cowardice are some spicy ways to turn blue cantrips into removal.

I think the token producers (especially Young Pyromancer) conflict with T&L's second ability, but I also think they offer up an opportunity for a new win condition: Dragonshift. If you go this route, I'd suggest adding cards like Murmuring Mystic, Talrand, Sky Summoner, Metallurgic Summonings and Shark Typhoon. Deekah, Fractal Theorist deserves special mention, as the tokens it creates will keep their +1/+1 counters even after being Dragonshifted.

I don't like Kaza, Roil Chaser here, because I see this as a deck that wants to be casting a bunch of small spells, not a few large or X spells. I also think you are leaning too heavily into copying spells for much the same reason. Copying a Brainstorm =/= copying a Comet Storm. Even copying Stitch in Time feels like a waste. Maybe take out cards like Increasing Vengeance for more counterspells or interaction? Archmage Emeritus, Niv-Mizzet, Parun and Wavebreak Hippocamp help you maintain card advantage even when countering your opponent's threats.

Overall, I feel this deck is looking to control the board with cards like Basilisk Collar or Mass Diminish + Tibor and Lumia, maintain card parity with counterspells + cantrips and Archmage Emeritus (and company), and then follow up with either a swarm of tokens + Dragonshift/Day of the Dragons or individual threats such as Niv-Mizzet or even Nezahal, Primal Tide or Hullbreaker Horror. I think you'd be best served by upping your interaction/counterspell suite, eliminating some of the more expensive sorceries (everything 4+ MV) and X-spells, and focusing less on spell copying in favor of casting more cheap spells in the first place. I hope this helps! I haven't really thought much about this commander before, so thanks for bringing it to my attention. Might try my own spin with this lovely Izzet couple.

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