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At the beginning of each player's draw step, that player draws a card.
Whenever a player draws a card, Spiteful Visions deals 1 damage to that player.
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Spiteful Visions Discussion
5 days ago
I would definitely cut Arcanis too, and probably add Spiteful Visions
1 week ago
cdkime, all reasonable suggestions. I tried to answer you on Phyrexian Tyranny and Spiteful Visions in an edit to the primer above while I was just fleshing it out and organizing it better, but I certainly get your point.
1 week ago
One of the problems I've had when playing wheels, and which you allude to in your first post, is having a fist-full of useful cards, but your wheel effects would force you to discard. Library of Leng fixes this problem. You can "discard" the cards you want to the top of your library, dump the cards that are worthless to you, thereby engineering a better hand.
Helm of the Ghastlord gives you a number of advantages. Like Curiosity, it allows you to draw obscene amounts of cards, and combos with Niv-Mizzet. However, more importantly, it forces your opponents to discard every card they draw. This card can win you the game--you play a wheel effect, they discard their hand, yet are unable to ever draw to replace.
Sigil of Sleep can be helpful against creature-based decks.
Phyresis makes a good finisher, but is a bit gimmicky--you can easily kill the entire board (particularly if Tefari's puzzle box finishes players on their upkeep), but it also gives your opponents a "free" set of card draws if removed before dealing lethal infect damage (unless others are playing infect).
Personally, I would recommend cutting cards that damage yourself, such as Phyrexian Tyranny and Spiteful Visions. In my experience, the speed at which they kill other players does not justify how easy they make you to kill.
2 weeks ago
Personally, I do not like Spiteful Visions with Nekusar. While it provides significant damage to your opponents, you are also hitting yourself. Not a great situation if you are throwing wheel effects around.
I have also found Font of Mythos, Howling Mine, and the like to be more trouble than they are worth. The additional damage they provide per turn is insignificant, and, at least in my opinion, not worth the boon the other player receives. You need several cards with Nekusar-like effects before they become worthwhile; and sometimes keeping all those creatures on the field can be challenging. I would recommend replacing with more wheel effects (such as the Dark Deal you cut, or Winds of Change).
There are a couple enchantments which work well with Nekusar:
Helm of the Ghastlord - Whenever they draw a card, you get a card, which is always nice. But, more importantly, whenever they draw a card (and thus take damage), they are also forced to discard a card. This negates any boon Nekusar's card draw gives, and, if you play a wheel effect, their hand disappears for the rest of the game.
Sigil of Sleep - Whenever they draw a card, you bounce one of their creatures.
Curiosity - Whenever they draw a card, you get a card. As above, this is pretty nifty.
Phyresis - If you hate your friends, this card is great. You can easily and swiftly kill all your opponents when this is in play.
Some other cards to consider:
One of the problems with Wheels is you sometimes have a fist full of good cards, and do not want to discard them. Library of Leng fixes this problem. You can now discard the junk, while placing what you want back on top of your library, only to be instantly redrawn.
cdkime on Forgive Me
2 weeks ago
I have a couple of suggestions:
Curiosity is nice on Nekusar, granting you huge card draw, and makes an infinite combo when on Niv-Mizzet.
Sigil of Sleep combined with a wheel effect is devastating to your opponent's board-states.
If you really hate your friends: Phyresis plus a wheel can easily kill all opponents as they hit their draw steps.
Teferi's Puzzle Box obscene card draw, without giving your opponents much of an advantage; disrupts their tutors.
Library of Leng perfect for when you have a fist-full of great cards, but want to cast a discard-based wheel.
1 month ago
You should add a lot more wheel effects to this deck. Dark Deal, Molten Psyche, Reforge the Soul, Whispering Madness, Windfall, and Winds of Change are incredibly powerful, and deal massive amounts of damage to everyone in the game. Further, they disrupt players' hands, making their tutors/carefully calculated draws useless. Add Hive Mind to the mix, and suddenly there are myriad wheels in play, destroying your opponents' life totals.
Teferi's Puzzle Box nets a considerable amount of damage at the start of each players' turn.
The big problem with wheel effects is discarding your own hand. Library of Leng fixes that problem, allowing you to discard dead cards, while preserving in your hand the cards you want to keep (discard to top of library, draw them immediately).
Curiosity nets you a substantial number of additional cards.
I think Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind is better for this deck than Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius. You are already generating considerable card draw, so its ability is both easier to utilize and provides an additional damage outlet.
Sigil of Sleep is delightfully mean. Every time they draw a card, you bounce one of their creatures.
If you really, really, really hate your friends, enchant Nekusar with Phyresis. Played alongside a wheel effect, you can effectively kill all opponents instantly.
I would also recommend cutting Spiteful Visions and any cards that deal damage to yourself. In my experience, Nekusar works best when everyone is drawing massive numbers of cards, including yourself. Self-burn is incredibly dangerous in this situation.
2 months ago
SaskeSaskia - I really do like Dissipation Field, which is part of why I removed Spiteful Visions from the list. My issue with Phyrexian Tyranny is the same as the issue I have with Spiteful Visions. It hits me. So beyond the damage I would deal myself with it, it can also just bounce itself if I have Dissipation Field out, making two strikes against it, hence why I didn't include it.
2 months ago
I made a nekusar edh deck and thought heavily about putting Dissipation Field in it. The problem with that card, though, is that it affects you as well as your opponents. So, if you have a card like Spiteful Visions out, it'll just return that card to your hand. Looking good though!