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Creature — Specter
Whenever Hypnotic Specter deals damage to an opponent, that player discards a card at random.
|Have (4)||Pumpkinking913 , piggito , rockleemyhero , metalmagic|
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Hypnotic Specter Discussion
1 week ago
Kalstrax, Shade Lord
Legendary Creature: Specter
Other Specter creatures get +1/+1 and Voidmaster 2 (Pay 2 life, this creature gains shroud and is unblockable until end of turn)
Voidmaster 10 (Pay 10 life, this creature gains shroud and is unblockable until end of turn)
Whenever ~ deals combat damage to a player, that player loses 7 life, discards 7 cards, and sacrifices a permanent.
It's a Lord for the underappreciated Specter Tribe, which would like to be able to be unblockable as many have deals damage effects like Hypnotic Specter or Nightveil Specter . I also like the idea of throwing Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker ultimate at people in exchange for some life. Minus 6 permanents because that seemed a bit overpowered.
1 month ago
Personally, I'd probably drop that one sub-theme from the deck and devote the slots either to my own self-discard strategy or shore up any other sub-themes you may want to foster. If you go that route, look at Glint-Horn Buccaneer because he was basically made for this deck.
That being said, I really do enjoy some individuality and personal flavor/spin on decks.
So if you do wish to continue with the strategy you might want to open a card slot or two (since you're currently sitting at 9ish pieces). Some cards you may want to consider to add: Pain Magnification if you see yourself reliably dealing 3+ damage, Hypnotic Specter for a 3cmc attack discard engine or Liliana's Specter if you prefer ETBs, Banshee of the Dread Choir for a 5cmc discard monstrosity (lets face it Myriad is cool).
You just have to decide how much flavor you want out of your deck at the cost of efficiency.
1 month ago
Totally missed Creeping Dread and a few others.
If you really want to build into opponent discard though, consider Arterial Flow , Dark Deal , Hymn to Tourach , Dreamstealer , Hypnotic Specter , or Liliana's Specter . All of those options cost 3cmc or less and are $ cheap as well.
Good luck with the build, I will post back if I come up with anything new.
2 months ago
I like what you got going on here. Some cards I run in my mono black devotion that you could utilize as well are: Gifted Aetherborn , Hypnotic Specter , Ravenous Chupacabra , Squelching Leeches and possibly Bone Picker . I like the idea of Languish but I don't like killing off my own creatures; so maybe Grasp of Darkness for target removal. I'd definitely fit in at least 2 Cabal Stronghold .
3 months ago
Neato! Lots of elves and such, but I wonder if getting more opportunities to let your commander shine via creating discard opportunities would be good. I think I only count 4 things that cause discarding. Anything to make the most of your commander seems like a good strategy. If
I run Grave Pact to further have big creatures I can't handle disappear from my opponents, and your sack outlets with tokens can do that nicely. Putting some recursion like mortilus suggests will help make your token army, and thus swap some elves for discard effects. Hypnotic Specter can provide some damage and discard. Liliana's Triumph is cheap and works well with some of what you got. Mind Slash speaks for itself, sorcery speed unfortunately though. An expensive but guaranteed stranglehold on a game unless hard countered is Myojin of Night's Reach .
bushido_man96 makes a good argument for forcing draws and then they discard at end of their turns. I prefer to not allow others to draw though, usually because I see a lot of Reliquary Tower s and and the likes. Also regardless of the discard amount they get to choose which cards the keep. Limiting their options works better in the long run I find.
Also is Crypt Ghast allowed with that commander? B/W in its ability.
Hope these help!
4 months ago
Funny, I was just about to upload a discard OBK deck myself, when this popped up.
4 months ago
Ooh, discarding. I like making people discard things. (Super fun!) Here are some thoughts:
- If you're up for creatures, one that works well with the discard strategy is Hypnotic Specter , though that's only ideal if you're running Dark Ritual . Turn 1 Hypnotic Specter is a threat that needs to be answered.
- You're making your opponents discard, but Legacy is (at least where I am) full of plenty of things that can interact with the graveyard, like Life from the Loam. I would highly recommend having more graveyard hate than Nihil Spellbomb: Relic of Progenitus is a go-to I quite like that isn't too expensive. Extirpate also readily cleans out your opponent's graveyard, and Ashiok, Dream Render also cleans your opponent's graveyard while making sure they can't search.
- Land Destruction... I'm quite partial to Ghost Quarter , because it's effectively like a Strip Mine against a lot of decks.
- For sideboard options, Imp's Mischief helps a lot against things like Abrupt Decay, Maelstrom Pulse, or any destroy cards. There's the new Force of Despair that could be good if your opponent vomits out creatures, and Damping Sphere is always a nice trick against a lot of degenerate decks, like Tentacle Tron, 12/16-post, Elves, and the like. Toxic Deluge is perhaps better than Massacre, but I don't know what the prices are where you are, so that's a bit of a stretch.
Hypnotic Specter occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.0%