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- Milling with Laboratory maniac and Abyssal Persecutor
- Is it safe to sacrifice Abyssal Persecutor to an effect that gains me life if both my opponent and I are at zero?
- Does Abyssal Persecutor prevent opponents from countering Dash hopes when they're at 5 life or less?
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You can't win the game and your opponents can't lose the game.
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Abyssal Persecutor Discussion
1 week ago
Just so you know, 2 rust elementals cancel each other out, you can sac each with the other one and avoid losing life. Its because their effect just says you can't sac him, it's not referring to other creatures with the same name. Abyssal Persecutor just saying lol. Phyrexian Etchings you can benefit from it for awhile, then dump it on an opponent once it reaches a high enough number of age counters.
2 weeks ago
4 weeks ago
So Abyssal Persecutor is a great wincon but you're not really set up for it. You ideally want 10+ ways to remove it which you have 6. I'd advise maybe Korlash, Heir to Blackblade or Lashwrithe in its place or upping the removal and some wraths. Ideally Damnation but Bontu's Last Reckoning or Mutilate as previously suggested. As for more removal well Percy's best friend is Smallpox.
1 month ago
I understand that you're a begginer to magic and I don't intend to discourage you but the best Liliana planeswalker in modern is Liliana of the Veil. Typically you would want 3-4 copies of her.
Now that's out of the way your deck is kind of all over the place which is fine good stuff decks are totally viable in modern but you have to have some consistency to them. So take Murder for example, this is a card you would want most games so 4 copies would be a good number to run. That being said, Murder isn't usually played because better (Hero's Downfall) and cheaper (Fatal Push, Cast Down) options exist.
Lastly you should under stand the strengths of Black are cheap creature removal (see above), discard spells like Thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek, as well as cards that trade life for advantage such as Dark Confidant, Phyrexian Arena, Bitterblossom or again Thoughtseize.
Creatures in black are typically overcosted or come with a significant down side (see Master of the Feast), Some are viable but must be built around like Abyssal Persecutor, Nyxathid, or Death's Shadow but the other option is to splash another color. Green pairs nicely with black thanks to cards like Tarmogoyf or Scavenging Ooze.
1 month ago
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I hope this is all helpful for you! :)
Using red, you have access to many of the overlooked cards in the mental game of magic. Avarice Totem, Custody Battle and Fractured Loyalty can become game changers in and of themselves. Avarice Totem with Pithing Needle can be quite fun.
I think that Jinxed Choker deserves a spot here, and that you could consider some additional hidden gems such as Vampiric Spirit or Basilisk Collar in here with some of your "passive pingers" such as Harsh Mentor, Xantcha, Sleeper Agent or even Sleeper Agent herself, etc.
Some other great options would be cards that encourage your opponents to make bad decisions - I usually try to not beat the deck but the opponent in magic, so cards such as Pain's Reward and Choice of Damnations can be a house depending on how well you play the game and the opponent.
I would always include a Glacial Chasm with a way to fetch it.
I would confuse your opponent by being friendly with some cards such as Abyssal Persecutor and cards of the like.
You're not trying to help the other players win, you're owning your opponents without them realizing it.
You have access to Norin the Wary, that always sparks options...
You have access to political time bombs such as Impending Disaster being in Red.
No matter what you do, I would auto-include Claws of Gix, a Scroll Rack, and a Sensei's Divining Top, consider maybe some shadow cards - just type the word "Dauthi" into http://www.cardkingdom.com/ and see what comes up... that might lead to some ideas with equipment such as Explorer's Scope and/or Trepanation Blade (two cards that are incredibly underrated IMO)...
If you keep your dudes low in power, you could consider a Meekstone and an Icy Manipulator as a soft/old-school wall for yourself (though it would stop Xantcha from doing her work). If the Icy is there... there's always Winter Orb - who doesn't miss that?? :)
Lots of choices here...
Maybe stealing equipment would be a thing you'd enjoy... you know there's always "that guy" that runs "those cards" all the time... Red is all about that.
If you're feeling aggro-y, Filth + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth seem strong.
If you can get your hands on it, Word of Command fits the flavor of this deck well...
Maybe you could include a Wish Board with Burning Wish or Death Wish... in fact, you could keep the weird political theme going with a suicide life swap build with that black tree: Tree of Perdition and/or Soul Conduit.
I'm just spouting off ideas - I plan to make a deck with her when I get some free time. :)
Very cool start here and again, I hope all of this is helpful to you!
2 months ago
@ticked-off-squirrel, perhaps. It's a good card but it's 3 mana and only reduces the cost of my creatures. The life gain and drain is good but doesn't add to the strength of the deck. Compare it to Jet Medallion for 2 mana reduces all my black spells, I can play it on turn 2 and turn 3 play Crypt Ghast or Abyssal Persecutor.
2 months ago
Abyssal Persecutor says "you can't win the game..." Nothing can cause you to win the game while you have Abyssal Persecutor in play. This is similar to controlling an effect that says "you cannot gain life" and playing a card that says "you gain X life."
From Abyssal Persecutor's Gatherer rulings:
No game effect can cause you to win the game or cause any opponent to lose the game while you control Abyssal Persecutor. It doesn’t matter whether an opponent has 0 or less life, an opponent is forced to draw a card while their library is empty, an opponent has ten or more poison counters, an opponent is dealt combat damage by Phage the Untouchable, you control Felidar Sovereign and have 40 or more life, or so on. You keep playing.
2 months ago
Abyssal Persecutor :"you cant win the game and your opponents cant lose the game" Liliana's Contract :"At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control four or more demons with different names, you win the game" What would happen in the case of having Abyssal Persecutor and 3 other demons out? I would assume the Abyssal Persecutor would override Liliana's Contract and prevent you from winning but im not exactly sure. How do you determine which has "priority" in this case?