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Creature — Human Soldier Scout
When Veteran Explorer dies, each player may search his or her library for up to two basic land cards and put them onto the battlefield. Then each player who searched his or her library this way shuffles it.
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Veteran Explorer Discussion
1 day ago
6 days ago
If there were any creatures with a Sylvan Scrying effect when they etb'd, then you could also get Tolaria West, but, of course, if any such creatures existed, I'm pretty sure we'd have heard of them in other formats by now.
On a side note, Veteran Explorer (one of my favorite cards from legacy) might be worth playing in a Vannifar deck, at least if you play enough basics (and it's a two-color deck, so I'd hope you would, unless you want to be super-competitive and then get blown out by blood moon).
1 week ago
With Retreat to Coralhelm in play you could use mana tutoring dorks and make a chain like like Veteran Explorer > Viridian Emissary / Primal Druid > Farhaven Elf / Wood Elves > Wild Wanderer / Solemn Simulacrum > Gobbling Ooze > Ulvenwald Hydra > Protean Hulk. You should have mana left over and a sac outlet to use on the hulk at the end of it. Even if you get fizzled somehow you ramp out a bunch of mana in the process. Imagine it happening with Amulet of Vigor or Lotus Cobra in play too...mmmmm yummy over kill.
Could be an interesting angle to explore for the deck. However it since it requires the enchantment to be in play to function, we need ways to find it. I think the best tutor for it might be Drift of Phantasms... which also conveniently finds Intruder Alarm and Faces of the Past (which probably enables some decent elf/wizard/ooze chains too). Getting the Drift of Phantasms in hand should be easy enough with all the creature tutors available in green. Could be cool, maybe even good ;)
1 month ago
DankMagicianD: The issue with Rest in Peace is that it makes Veteran Explorer's die trigger not go off anymore. It is a pretty important facet of the deck in addition to the other graveyard-matters cards I have. Luckily in my meta reanimator and other graveyard based decks aren't prevalent, but if they were I'd play an extra copy of Surgical Extraction.
1 month ago
hkhssweiss, I think you're right. Working with the mass land advantage the deck is able to abuse leveraging Ob Nixilis, Unshackled built in punishment, I think it's not just a flavour win, but a great strategy to work with the landfall ability Ob Nixilis, the Fallen. It turns into an Ob Nixilis pain deck that seems pretty effective if I can get either one out.
Gold star for the Glacial Chasm recommendation. While a little out of my budget for now, it seems like a must have card to pillowfort so I can setup, especially because of the direct pain the Ob Nixilis strategy can cause. Then, if I get situated with a giant Ob Nixilis or an army of tokens from the landfall token generation, I could sack Glacial Chasm to The Gitrog Monster for a big swing... then play it again with Crucible of Worlds or Ramunap Excavator for another safe go-round!
Riftstone Portal is fantastic - a nice little extra tuning card. And you're right, both those lands extra good with the amount of "search for any land" cards in the deck.
When I build it and as I play it, I'll be keeping Azusa, Lost but Seeking, Oracle of Mul Daya and Exploration in mind for future investments to tune it up. Making sure I can play and replay Field of Ruin as many times as possible in a turn is a decent strategy :).
Good call on Birthing Pod. I'm actually looking for one for my Kresh deck right now, but it'd be perfect in here. Especialy (as you said) for chaining Ghave into Ob Nixilis! How perfect. Hmmmm, I guess if I sacrificed Veteran Explorer to chain into Ob Nixilis, Unshackled, I'd have to reveal it before they chose to search for the land or not, hey? I couldn't surprise them? I wonder how that all works on the stack and how I could abuse it - I guess I could still chain into Ob Nixilis with another creature out. Still good mana-ramp value if either Ob Nixilis is out and using Ghave to sac him. I'll think about that as the final deck list comes together.
thanks for reminding me about Heroic Intervention. It's come into my mind a couple times for this deck, just never when I was online to add it - I do have the card though, so it's a natural include!
Thanks for more great insight, hkhssweiss!
1 month ago
Hey goldlion, it's been awhile I see you updated your page quite a bit and started adding in a bit more cards. In going for your help request, to keep the consistency of the jank theme in abusing Ob Nixilis I would consider running it more of a lands matter type of deck. It gives it a lot more consistency and will definitely be a more interesting approach.
Since a lot of the "temptation" cards are based upon lands it will make a lot more sense to run those type of shenaningans. There are plenty of interesting synergy that come from using lands for instance a cool combo involving Glacial Chasm and Riftstone Portal when you use Hour of Promise, now all your lands can tap for and no damage can be done to you. Not to mention Glacial Chasm can also tap for mana! Adding to the fact that you will out value them, if you add in cards like Azusa, Lost but Seeking, Oracle of Mul Daya, Exploration in addition to Ramunap and Crucible, you will pull ahead of the game far more than your opponents. Not to mention also that being able to reuse Ghost Quarter or Field of Ruin more than once per turn can lead to the whole table killed once the set up is done.
Another thing I noticed when I was taking a look over is including a Birthing Pod chain, Ghave is the perfect CMC to pod right into Ob Nixilis, I see that you are already running Eldritch Evolution which is awesome. Pod also has other ways you can abuse to trigger your death effects for let's say Veteran Explorer, which also pulls out a 2 cmc creature like Borderland Explorer, so on and so forth.
Also noticed that we forgot a great protection spell in the card of Heroic Intervention a cheap casting stellar card.
Let's try make this deck complete :P
1 month ago
So I commented on this deck over 6 months ago and now I saw it on the feed so... Imma do it again. And Imma be more specific this time. Let's start with cuts.
Bane of Progress is not great. If all goes well you'll absolutely be hitting your own enchantments and artifacts.
Gray Merchant of Asphodel is not anything exceptional in this brew. Yeah his ETB is really strong but it draws a ton of hate and you don't seem to have many ways of subverting or withstanding that hate.
Greenwarden of Murasa is really mana-costly. 6 mana for an eternal witness effect? Pass.
It That Betrays is really bad. Better when you can reanimate it, but still unless your opponents are running aristocrats or you're forcing them to sac things (and yeah I know It does that but that's not enough), really bad. Oh yeah, and that thing I said with Gray Merchant about drawing hate? That.
Lord of Extinction's lack of trample makes him pretty meh.
Massacre Wurm is pretty meta-dependent. If your buddy runs weenies he's decent but if not...
Mycoloth is great, but the 5-mana slot is competitive.
Pathbreaker Ibex honestly doesn't seem that great. Most he's giving your guys is +5 unless you find Lord of Extinction.
Terastodon is really cool and all, but it does have one huge drawback... You can EITHER repeat the etb OR have it as a beater. And for 8 mana, repeating the etb is not enough.
Greater Good is great when you have larger creatures than this deck does. As it is it's just gonna make you discard a bunch of cards, probably.
Torment of Hailfire gives your opponents something you don't want them having: choice. They'll just sac a bunch of useless crap or discard lands. Without steps to limit their options, it's not a great card.
So I looked at your maybeboard and holy crap dude, you need to put some of those in. Night Incarnate, Whisper, Blood Liturgist, Savra, Queen of the Golgari, Craterhoof Behemoth, I'm actually adding the first two to my brew now. Thanks for the ideas, sorry for stealing them.
Now Imma give you some card suggestions.
You forgot Fleshbag Marauder when you got the rest of the edict gang!
Thragtusk is pretty underrated in aristocrats.
As is Treasure Keeper, but that's less good in your deck since you have a really high mana curve.
Vindictive Lich gives you options!
Wall of Blossoms is good protection and a draw!
Hell's Caretaker is reanimation and a sac outlet.
Phyrexian Delver is also good reanimation.
Attrition is excellent removal.
Perilous Forays is an awesome card for this deck, I love it.
Quagmire Druid isn't the greatest ever, but it's enchantment removal.
Sadistic Hypnotist can play the long game, run opponents out of resources.
Thoughtpicker Witch can screw combo.
Vraska, Golgari Queen is an epic sac outlet and the ult is perfect for this deck.
Entomb is legendary.
Grim Flayer is great card advantage.
Fauna Shaman is like Entomb but better maybe?
Underrealm Lich is good card advantage.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
1 month ago
Also hkhssweiss, to your first comment. I actually have a side list going of cards like Old-Growth Dryads and such, though a couple you mentioned weren't on there.e I'm calling these "temptations" as they aren't quite mandatory searches, but might make someone thiiiiink about it a bit :). "Are those two lands worth 10 life to you right now?". The temptations I have on the deck list now are there because they hugely benefit the deck's pilot compared to their CMC, because opponents getting to find stuff too is usually a downside... of course in this deck, opponents won't want to search in most cases, so it's huge value for the deck's pilot.
I wanted to leave the other card slots open for now, before adding the cards you're thinking of, so I can make sure everything I need to set up and support the win-con can fit... however, now that I'm going over these again, Veteran Explorer could be good enough value and triggerable by Ghaves built in sac engine, and Wave of Vitriol might be good as well, depending on the opposing decks and if Ramunap Excavator or Crucible of Worlds are in my near future. Sweet!