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|Revised Foreign Black Border (3EDFBB)||Common|
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Destroy all enchantments.
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2 weeks ago
1 month ago
Play all the dual lands you can get, even if they're tappedlands (Foul Orchard, Golgari Guildgate, Golgari Rot Farm). The cycling lands in your colors are very good as well, use at least those that cycle for the one mana they would make.
2 months ago
-1Zhur-Taa Druid for +1 Llanowar Elves - I found Zhur-Taa Druid's one damage was good in large games, but more often than not it made him a target because other players didn't like getting hit for one and it left myself without the mana producing creature.
-1 Alpha Brawlfor +1 Fires of Yavimaya - This deck can be more focused on Thromok's damage with this enchantment. It only takes 5 creatures to make Thromok big enough to one shot with commander damage. This allows him to attack right away. I found I was rarely using Alpha Brawl because of its high mana cost.
-1 Skullclamp for +1 Nim Deathmantle - I was rarely using Skullclamp for card draw. The extra draw was nice, but I don't want my tokens dying, I want them for Thromok or blockers. I found a lot of my big creatures that produce tokens were completely worthless when killed (obviously). Nim Deathmantle gives me the option to keep those creatures alive longer and lets me produce tokens. In this build, I am trying to run more "at each" upkeep creatures because it ramps up faster in bigger games! Nim Deathmantle also interacts well with Ashnod's Altar! (see below)
-1 Joiner Adept for +1 Ashnod's Altar - Joiner Adept's ability was almost worthless with my ramp/dual lands. It was more of a convenience than anything. It would work better in a 3-5 color deck imo. I added Ashnod's Altar because my tokens can ramp into even larger creatures that produce more tokens. The 2 mana potential per token ramps up fast especially if you are making tokens every upkeep. Also, if you have a creature that produces 2+ tokens when it enters the battlefield, you can use that + Nim + Ashnod's Altar for infinite tokens!
-1 Utopia Mycon for +1 Nissa's Expedition - Utopia Mycon was a super cheap card but loses its value in larger games. It only happens at your upkeep so it loses value in larger games. The ability to sac a saproling seems nice since I have multiple creatures to create saprolings, but you get more bang for your buck with an Ashnod's altar. Using the other creatures with Nissa's you have, you could get 2 lands for one green! Better ramp than waiting a ton of turns / losing creatures!
-1Death's Presence for +1 Second Harvest - Death's Harvest was too slow for my tastes. If my creatures are dying, its usually a board wipe. If my small tokens are dying, its slow ramp and if my big creatures die, my tokens are usually not far behind. With Second Harvest, I can double my tokens. That means more mana with Ashnod's, more sac for Thromok, more defenders, etc. With Parallel Lives and the soon to be bought Primal Vigor, this ramp can be 2x to 4x as powerful!
-1 Thelonite Hermit for +1 Nylea, God of the Hunt - Thelonite Hermit was 8 mana for 4 1/1 Saprolings. It was too slow. The ablility to give saprolings +1/+1 was nice, but this card cost to much for a 1/1 that dies easily. Nylea is indestructible, which makes her bae and hard to get rid of. Trample is great because a big baddie Thromok can't be chump blocked as easily. It also means I am pumping damage earlier with my bigger creatures because of trample! Her special also allows me to spend unused mana when people let tokens hit for bigger damage.
-1 Sporemound for +1 Tendershoot Dryad - Sporemound is a 1/1 per 1 land per 1 turn. Unless I put an evolving wilds in the deck, the landfall is to slow in a multiplayer game. Instead, for the same cost, Tendershoot Dryad gives me a 1/1 every upkeep! The city's blessing is also a plus because it replaces Thelonite's ability for +1/+1 for an even better +2/+2. More tokens for more upkeeps scales the bigger the games get.
-1 Soul's Might for +1 Solidarity of Heroes - I was using Soul's might mainly on my commander or the creatures where +1/+1 counters gave extra tokens/effects. Soul's might was only one creature for 5 and Soliarity of Heroes is any number of creatures for 2 per creature.Although it only doubles the number of +1/+1 counters, it was mainly what I was using Soul's might for!
-1 Miming Slime for +1 Tranquility - Miming Slime has some uses and will be in my sideboard. If I am playing an enchantment heavy deck, Tranquility does great mitigating things like an opponents Asceticism, or double damage, or lifelink etc. Miming Slime works great with warstrom surge, getting an extra creature out with Thromok, etc but I need something to stop Ghostly Prison, Oblivion Ring, Rhystic study, etc.
-1 Forest for +1 Insurrection - Insurrection is such a good card. Since I added more ramp, I felt comfortable replacing this with a land. Insurrection has so many good uses. Kill opponents with their own fatties then sacrifice for a big big big thromok with nothing on the board. Sac everything for a Thromok with haste and insta win. Get rid of threats by sacrificing with Feed the Pack at the end of turn. Hit with everything then sacrifice with Ashnod's Altar. The combos are endless.
2 months ago
Vanishing is one of the most important auras for a Zur Voltron build (or basically any build that uses his ability to put auras on him to kill an opponent). Phasing out keeps auras attached but prevents your opponent from harming the enchanted creature until your next untap step and you get to swing with Zur as normal. So basically you swing with Zur, pay UU, and now Zur can't be destroyed, exiled, anything, until your next turn. It's extremely good, and if you're running auras to put on Zur to win with him, it's always worth running Vanishing. Period. It's his bread and butter card. This also shores up your weakness to bounce or enchantment destruction (as you can phase out any aura attached to Zur to protect it, so Tranquility isn't quite as awful to play against).
Empyrial Armor is strong and should be here, especially if you use Necropotence to keep your hand topped off at 7 at all times.
Back to Basics is hilarious depending on your playgroup, though it may be out of budget. I'm just shooting ideas; if this card is too expensive, ignore it.
Greater Auramancy is expensive but is sadly the only way to get around Krosan Grip. It + Vanishing + Diplomatic Immunity gets around literally every card that could possibly remove Zur and his enchantments, lol. You don't need to worry about this if no one plays Krosan Grip though.
Helm of Obedience would be a nice win condition, and you can use Zur beatdown as a secondary win con (since it'd take longer to assemble without Strionic Resonator). You can pull Rest in Peace from your library and then just annihilate the largest troublemaker with the Helm.
Suggestions for removal:
Profane Procession isn't that good.
Aqueous Form is mediocre considering Steel of the Godhead does that same ability and adds a buff, and you're likely grabbing it off Zur's trigger.
Don't use Aegis of the Gods. Use Solitary Confinement. Why? Because Necropotence + Confinement make a really great softlock and it protects you far, far better.
You're running Solemnity but I don't see a card it combos with that well. You may as well run Glacial Chasm as another convenient softlock but that shuts off the Zur win plan. So, if you plan on doing Helm of Obedience, get a Chasm. Otherwise, I really don't see why you would run Solemnity because all it does is stop Planeswalkers and Zur can crush Planeswalker Super Friends decks with relative ease anyway.
I don't get why you're running Azor or Sunscorch Regent. They're really expensive and are just beatsticks, when you could deal more damage with Zur in a shorter amount of time. With Vanishing, you basically never have to worry about your win condition dying, so that's less of an issue. Same goes for Sphinx of the Final Word, though Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir is basically a superior version of that card.
Other soft locks to consider:
Get Vanishing in here ASAP, and Empyrial Armor would be super helpful too. Helm of Obedience would be nice as it would enable quick kills with Rest in Peace, though Zur beatdown is still a viable option. Solitary Confinement would be a better Aegis of the Gods in this deck considering you can easily pull Necropotence out of your library to upkeep it.
Contemplate removing: Azor, Sphinx, Sunscorch Regent. Profane Procession and Aqueous Form don't seem that great (the former is too mana intensive, the latter already has a superior variant of itself in the deck and both cost the same mana when Zur pulls them). Aegis of the Gods, too.
3 months ago
"weaknesses - card advantage, oblivion stone-like effects"
I haven't played Savra in a while, however Oblivion Stone and stuff like it were excellent for my deck.
Since you're not terribly artifact/enchantment heavy and you use land ramp, you should be able to sack creatures for whatever value you can get and then blowup the board as necessary. Personally the only times I was ever winning was when the board was fairly clean and my only edge was the attrition game with a piece of recursion. My less than ideal board state was usually better than their nonexistent one.
That said Oblivion Stone and Gaze of Granite were always good to have on hand, and Plague Boiler looks like could be fun.
Tranquility was another favorite of mine, however I see there's Back to Nature and even Primeval Light which both look much better.
3 months ago
Love the mainboard!
I would however make some changes to your sideboard
Because of the high level creatures in your deck, you don't necessarily need spot removal like Eyeblight's Ending. Your biggest threat is a control deck or red-burn so I would replace Eyeblight's Ending with either Duress or Feed the Clan. Duress can handle any sort of counter/bounce spell and would be nice against possible graveyard hate cards. Feed the Clan is excellent for your deck since you run multiple big creatures.
I'm not sure why you like Appetite for the Unnatural, I think there are more efficient cards for artifact/enchantment removal. Ancient Grudge, Tranquility or Natural State would be better in my opinion.
Thanks for posting the deck!
4 months ago
Glad I could help. I know underdog Decks are more fun to build. Sometimes you find something that hits really hard with something nobody tought about.
Somemore feedback regarding the last changes:Maybe you should go in for one non Arcane Spell that destroys all enchantments like Multani's Decree, Reverent Silence or Tranquility because Bogles are hard to defeat if you don't play counter spells or a Diabolic Edict-like effect.Sandstorm works well against Goblins so that is good as a sideboard (and sometimes against Faeries) while Squall works well against faeries.Nihil Spellbomb is a good card but you will never draw a card of it which makes a uncounterable "exil graveyard" more appealing. Bojuka Bog can work the same purpose but it can't be countered and it can be put into your hand using Elder Pine of Jukai
Oh and I found a nice Aura you could use instead of Leafcrown Dryad: AEther Web. Altough it won't be put into your hand with Lead the Stampede. It also grants reach, only gives +1/+1 but has two advantages:1st it adds another instat speed interaction like oh you want to bolt my Phantom Tiger? To bad I have this. And maybe you get to kill another attacker with it. 2nd blocking creatures with shadow can be a big deal against some combos.
In between I have two Modern Decks build around some Kamigaw Kamis :DOne is listed here Foretold Celestial Wrath (should be at least tier 2 altough it only uses 10 Kamigawa cards in main and 5 in sideboard) the other is a little more casual but works sometimes (about Tier 2.5) because of the green ramp kamis, which is why I'd never say aything against Elder Pine of Jukai or Petalmane Baku I just know how good those two ramp especially with the non pauper legal Loam Dweller.
5 months ago
Tranquility costs one less mana for the same effect compared to nova mage. Winter Orb? I like the previous suggestion for captain sisay. Bitterblossom for when the lands are destroyed? love the concept of this deck. +1'ed