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Night of Souls' Betrayal
All creatures get -1/-1.
Night of Souls' Betrayal Discussion
1 week ago
Combo1 Requires Solemnity
Cards in the "Other" category are mainly there to help other cards in the deck and possibly mitigate some negative effects from opponents. As an example, Crucible of worlds enhances aura fracture and also is a protection against land hate
I know I have a infinite mana combo in the deck, i Just haven't decided what mana sink to use
2 weeks ago
The easiest way to speed up a deck is by removing ETB tapped lands. I highly suggest running Command Tower , as well as City of Brass and Mana Confluence . If you have access to it, Cavern of Souls is a good option for any tribal deck, but Unclaimed Territory is another good option. Forbidden Orchard , Exotic Orchard and Reflecting Pool are more interesting lands to consider.
Green dorks and two-mana rocks are also very good. I see you're running Birds of Paradise , but Elves of Deep Shadow , Llanowar Elves , Rampant Growth , Fyndhorn Elves , Orcish Lumberjack and (if you can) Noble Hierarch are also great additions. If you want to invest relatively heavily into your dork-base, Bloom Tender is REALLY good in chromatic decks. If you find yourself facing a lot of blue decks, Carpet of Flowers is a good idea, too; Joiner Adept acts as a second Chromatic Lantern .
Fellwar Stone is good. The talisman cycles ( Talisman of Dominance , Talisman of Indulgence , Talisman of Impulse , Talisman of Unity , Talisman of Progress and the new five from Modern Horizons) are all good; I suggest that most, if not all, of your mana rocks should be two or less mana. Using a land like Ancient Tomb also helps cast these turn one. Signets like Dimir Signet or Boros Signet are good too, although I think most of the time the talismans will be better. Gilded Lotus is a good exception to my CMC rule in a deck with as many fat creatures as yours.
I don't think Nissa's Renewal is very good; generally, ramp is good in the early game, but not so good by the time you reach six mana. Nature's Lore , Rampant Growth , Farseek , Cultivate and/or Kodama's Reach are all powerful ramp spells you can fire off early. I think the first three are better, if only because they can fetch non-basics like Breeding Pool or Godless Shrine . I'm not as much a fan of the other two, but experience will show if they're worth including. Finally, I think Skyshroud Claim is better than Explosive Vegetation .
If at all possible, tutors are good. Demonic Tutor is the gold standard here, but Diabolic Tutor is a good, more affordable alternative. Vampiric Tutor , Worldly Tutor , Sylvan Tutor , Dark Petition and Gamble are all good cards as well, though their affordability varies tremendously.
Red comes with good counter counter magic options. Price of Glory is a good card if you want to discourage opponents playing on your turn, and Pyroblast is a good way to stop Counterspell and friends. Cards like Pyrostatic Pillar can punish decks with lower curves.
Card draw is at a premium in EDH. Staff of Nin is easy on the colored mana and gives you an extra draw each turn, and Phyrexian Arena is another good option. Harmonize , Concentrate and Painful Truths are good draw-threes.
Because your deck is running a LOT of fatties (and the best fatties, at that, 'cause they're dragons), you may find cards like Lurking Predators is be pretty good; Descendants' Path is a similar card. Depending on how fatty-heavy your meta is, Eureka effects like Show and Tell may be good. Sneak Attack is good if you want to use one-time face-smacks like Nicol Bolas or your already included Oros, the Avenger .
If you DON'T want to run dorks, and opt for artifact ramp instead, depending on your meta you may have a good time with cards like Porphyry Nodes or Night of Souls' Betrayal . Effects like Pyroclasm and Volcanic Fallout can also wipe out opponent's boards if they choose to go wide.
I think EDH decks tend to need a lot of mass removal. By Force is a favorite of mine, and Toxic Deluge , Wrath of God , Ritual of Soot and Supreme Verdict are all great if you have access to them. Back to Nature is good if you choose to cut down on the number of enchantments you're running, but Nature's Claim or Krosan Grip are also pretty good options.
If your curve is really high, things like Timesifter can be pretty brutal.
I'm not super sure Niv-Mizzet Reborn is very good. I don't know if you'll be getting very much card advantage, because you have a lot of cards that are more or less than exactly two colors. I think a card-draw spell like the ones I mentioned above would be better, like Treasure Cruise or Dig Through Time .
Good luck with deck building my man!
3 weeks ago
Mana Vault on turn one allows you to cast your general turn two. I imagine one of the challenges with this general is his costing 5, as lack of access to another color means your options for ramp are rather limited. By the same token, Charcoal Diamond , Coldsteel Heart , Chrome Mox and the Cabal Coffers + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth combo are your friends as well.
Nausea is good for you, as it gives you a way to kill off a bunch of little creatures and rebuy their ETB triggers. As Non-Linear points out, Grave Pact is good in your deck. Nausea makes it into a one-sided board wipe.
I see Demonic Tutor is in your 'Maybeboard.' I feel that this should be in the main deck of any black EDH deck if at all possible. It simply gets whatever you need more efficiently than anything else can.
Qarsi Sadist allows you to drain an opponent for two at each end step, if you have it exploit itself each time and Shirei stays on the board.
Night of Souls' Betrayal is an interesting thought. With a carful build, it could probably bust the deck wide open, as it auto kills each 1/1 and then brings them right back each end step. Pairing it with something like Burglar Rat , Skyscanner , Pilgrim's Eye , Black Cat or other such creatures seems simply rude as ****.
Finally, regarding the lands, I haven't had much luck with Crypt of Agadeem . You might want to replace that, Mortuary Mire and Memorial to Folly with basic lands. I also don't think Ghost Quarter is very good in EDH, unless your meta plays some powerful utility lands like The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale or Glacial Chasm . Ancient Tomb is a better Temple of the False God , but it is a more expensive card.
3 weeks ago
Ok. So you said you want degenerate, so... here goes.
First off, Braids, Cabal Minion is banned. So you might want to remove it.
You should either be running the fetches, including the off-color ones like Flooded Strand , or run Suppression Field ; this also is a somewhat broader and more applicable answer to planeswalkers than The Elderspell , as it has non-planeswalker target. It puts a damper on the planeswalkers, but I feel like they might be better replaced with board wipes like Wrath of God , Day of Judgment , Damnation or Toxic Deluge . When I played this general, I don't think I ran any creatures; they tend to be easily removed, but their effects may be replaced by enchantments/artifacts (ex: Thorn of Amethyst replaces Thalia, Guardian of Thraben ). Additionally, because Athreos, God of Passage is indestructible, it survives most board wipes. I recommend Erebos, God of the Dead as a second useful god; and in an Oloro meta, it seems particularly applicable. Sphere of Safety and Lightmine Field can serve as further deterrents to attackers; Maze of Ith also fits in well. Serra's Sanctum also is a powerhouse, if combined with a high-enough enchantment count. If you take the creature-less rout, I advise Night of Souls' Betrayal to remove the ability of elf- or dork-based decks to function. You might also consider Cursed Totem .
I see you have Vampiric Tutor in the maybe board. It's massively superior to Diabolic Tutor , if only because of its much lower mana cost; Imperial Seal is a strictly worse version I run in my Kess list, but it is also very good. Bitterblossom is a great inclusion, especially if you're running something like Contamination to mess with everyone's mana.
Mana Crypt is invaluable in cEDH decks. Fragmentize is a good white equivalent to Nature's Claim , especially in metas with low curves. Leyline of the Void or Rest in Peace are good techs against graveyard decks like as Gitrog, with the added advantage of allowing a win with a Helm of Obedience activation.
I've never been impressed with 1-for-1s in EDH; by that token, Mortify and Doom Blade may be on the chopping block. Utter End is alright, simply because of its universality. I'd replace these with the above boardwipes, but I also suggest Pox or Smallpox . Pox has the additional advantage of severely lowering your opponents' life totals, so ad nauseum players tend to just cry, and your Painful Quandary becomes more oppressive. Stab Wound , which is another type of 1-for-1, might be better replaced with Palace Siege . Swords to Plowshares is the single 1-for-1 I highly recommend, because of its low cost, exile-based removal, and relatively small downside.
Good luck! Stax em out.
1 month ago
One thing you can do, to make a cheap anti-Infect deck, is by finding and using spells that cause you to pay or lose life. Since Infect doesn't care about your life total, this negates the one drawback of these spells. This was traditionally called "suicide black" and (depending on your era) featured spells like Devour in Shadow , Raving Oni-Slave , Imp's Mischief , and other spells that are unreasonably effective for their manacost, because you lose life when you play them.
If you're good at brewing, Immortal Coil shuts down infect as long as it's on the battlefield: those decks are basically designed to deal exactly 10 damage, and can't handle the prevention effect very well. Cracking Polluted Delta , and Thought Scour ing yourself, is a good start to padding your "life total" out of range of infect and burn (bonus points if you're trying to Harmless Offering it to your opponent and pack mainboard graveyard hate , because you beat dredge and phoenix, too). This strategy is basically a metagame answer, because traditional grixis control does better against a wider board.
1 month ago
That's pretty much the case, yes.
I can give out a few options that I find good, but playtesting as well as local meta should be the deciding factors.
Collective Brutality is great because it's both good against burn, some other aggro decks, and most two card combo decks. It's very versatile.
Fulminator Mage is good against land-based decks, control, and decks with steep curves.
Night of Souls' Betrayal is awesome against decks with a lot of 1 toughness creatures, and it's also quite cheap these days. It used to be a $20 card. It could be an idea to pick up soon in case it's price shoots up again.
1 month ago
Hey everyone. Working on tweaking my modern deck Modern 8-Rack to make it a bit more efficient. I know the sideboard needs alot of work, and have ideas for that but mostly they're cards I still have to aquire. Recently I started noticing issues within the mainboard that I'm hoping to resolve. Namely that with 7 lands that require Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth to tap for black I'm frequently screwed for that second black source I need and that my alt win con ( Mutavault ) just doesn't do it, especially as I find myself more and more frequently turtling behind Ensnaring Bridge to survive. I've been hesitating to take mutavault out because otherwise a Chalice of the Void on one literally forces me to concede, but I can't justify keeping it in when I rely so heavily on bridge. In short, it's time to find a new alt win con.
With Davriel coming out soon he was among the first cards I considered, but a 3 mana rack that hits for 2 damage isnt worth it in my opinion. Sure, he comes with a built in discard engine, but if anything I think he's a budget alternative to Liliana of the Veil , not a win con.
At the moment the most promising choice I'm seeing is Liliana's Caress , but it scares me because if I dont drop it turn 2 then it doesn't seem like it'll do enough. Once I get their hand empty, most opponents will just cast whatever they top deck rather than be forced to discard it meaning I'll only get triggers on those rare occasions when my opponent's draw a spell they can't cast. Are there any other win cons that work in 8 rack besides running a creature or 2 to beat face in that I'm missing?
2 months ago
Thanks wallisface. Maybe that's part of why I don't use the card.
To the OP: Mission Brief Trap, I only use Hedrons as creatures and only 3 other playsets of mill, the rest of my deck is all card draw, life gain, creature removal, discard and any interaction I can think of. My deck isn't casual or budget and I still use Murderous Cut . Night of Souls' Betrayal , Crypt Incursion and even Opt . They (and Duress / Divest ,) are all good things and you are likely to find one or more fit your idea of fun.
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