City of Solitude

Legality

Format Legality
Noble Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Visions (VIS) Rare

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City of Solitude

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Players can play spells and activated abilities only during their own turns.

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City of Solitude Discussion

ay.lobo on Sidisi, brood tyrant [EDH, Reanimator]

1 month ago

Well, not including the many counterspells in blue like Counterbalance, you could add City of Solitude/Dosan the Falling Leaf or Defense Grid, depending what type you're after. Just thoughts to mull over.

Bxbx on Ixalan Park (#1 Gishath Commander)

1 month ago

I think it's a good idea to cut your cheat cards because you're basically wasting card slots for an effect that your commander already provides. There is no need for redundancy (especially since tucking the commander doesn't work anymore). So you should take out Lurking Predators and Genesis Wave for the time being.

I'm not a fan of heroic intervention because it is a card that will be stuck in your hand being useless most of the time. Additionaly, it depends on your meta if it does work. In my meta for example there are a lot of sac effects or Cyclonic Rift.

In my naya deck I have made rather good experiences with Stranglehold as a very versatile and preemptive card that stops your opponents to search for the right answer for your threats. But this again depends on your meta game. In my meta there are a lot of black tutor effects.

A similar preemptive and versatile card that protects your expensive threats from getting countered would be City of Solitude.

oliveoilonyaasscureshemorrhoid on A Michael Bay Film, Omnath: Age of Explosions! v3

1 month ago

I forgot to mention City of Solitude and Conqueror's Flail yesterday for a sideboard, in case anyone likes control.

Derpsofdoom on The Dragon's Nest: Ancestry

2 months ago

Hello CinnaToastKrunch. Well you want some advice on cuts right? Well lets get it shall we. I am going to just go down the line and see what we can do and start from the beginning.

Creatures that should be cut: Boneyard Scourge, Territorial Hellkite, Tyrant's Familiar, Thassa, God of the Sea, Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon, Spellbound Dragon, Kruphix, God of Horizons, Scion of the Ur-Dragon, and Hellkite Charger. These guys are very iffy and I personally not a fan of them, especially the first two. Whatever territory that hellkite is being protective about, he can keep it cause it isn't worth it. I wanted Boneyard Scourge to do more instead of just be an annoying 4/3 that just keeps coming back. It is also hard to pay its mana cost at times cause we as dragon deck users tap out a lot. The gods aren't doing much for the deck and I think just bog the deck down. Have you always been happy to see any of those gods upon drawing them? I am also not a fan of Scion of the Ur-Dragon in this deck, especially with a lack of recursion. If we recurred more, then yeah he would be great, but you don't have many recursion spells right now. Skithiryx to me is just so bad in this deck. He is a great card, but if you can't have him one shot people, then he will be removed before he becomes a problem. He also works better in a scion deck where scion can become skithiryx and one shot people for infect out of no where.

Creature that might be cut: Crosis, the Purger, Intet, the Dreamer, O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami, Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind, Taigam, Ojutai Master, and Rashmi, Eternities Crafter. These guys are something that you must think about. I feel that the first two can be lacklust at times without scion, and some of them just get removed. Lets face it, if crosis doesn't have haste, people aren't going to let him stay. Niv-mizzet will depend on your draw package, but by himself, he isn't that impressive. Taigam is cool, but to get that rebound, he has to attack, so I feel he isn't that good, but if you want protection, maybe try City of Solitude. Rashmi, this is a card I haven't seen before and interests me, however, would prefer to run something like Maelstrom Nexus to get those cascades. She is essentially cascading for you but only the top card, and it might not hit every time.

Planeswalkers: I have no experience with Nissa, Steward of Elements, so I am unsure how she really function. Seems okay in reason, but at the same time, she is a huge mana dump that might not get you far. I think your other two planeswalkers are far superior to her and should keep them over her.

Instant; I am unsure about just the lone Counterspell. Seems odd, but might come in handy at times. I am thinking of throwing in a Mana Drain is I can get one. I would also recommend some more single target removal. Never know when getting rid of a creature or enchantment could save you the game.

Lands: I will not make any suggestions and what to cut here, because I think people should have an idea of what to cut for lands as they play the deck. Especially if they don't get the proper fixing of lands for them. I will however suggest that 44 seems a little high for my taste. I like running 37-40 as my personal preference.

Enchantments: Crucible of Fire, and Exploration. If you keep the high land count, then exploration might be worth it, but Burgeoning could also go well with said high land count. With that being said though, eventually you will run out of lands, and you need draw power to refill the hand after playing all of your lands. Crucible of fire I find is not worth it. Why not run Door of Destinies if you really want to buff your dragons, but here is the main question. Do you really need the extra damage buff on dragons? They hit really hard as it is.

Artifacts: Armillary Sphere, Mirror of the Forebears, Paradox Engine, and maybe Fist of Suns. The paradox engine should go as you are not running enough rocks that can take full benefit of the engine to do its job. The mirror is cool, but the targets it can copy are few. Remember that most dragons are legendary and this mirror still becomes a copy of said legendary dragon. Can only have one legendary dragon of the same name out at a time. First of suns just reduces the cost of our commander and I found it drawing it late game was just a huge letdown and not worth my time.

Sorcery: Index, Time Stretch, and Time Warp. I am unsure on these. Index is cool, but I think I would rather just use Fact or Fiction and Treasure Cruise. The extra turn cards are good, and they are strong, but here is something to think about. When you go for that extra turn, are you in a board state to do so, or can you kill somebody right there with that extra turn? Maybe can you kill two people. I think with extra turn cards, you better be going off and killing at least 1-2 people to make it worth it, other wise you painted a giant target on your self because people now know you run extra turn cards in a dragon deck.

Anyway, these are some of my two cents on some of the cards in this deck. Now I want you to remember, these are SUGGESTIONS. It is very important to make a deck your own and continue to develop it so that it suits your needs, and your current playgroups needs. Love a specific card, then by all means, run it. I am a huge fan of all the dragonlord cards and love them. I run all but Dragonlord Silumgar, but even I have been thinking of putting him in for the fact it can steal a planeswalker. The point is, when making/playing a deck, one needs to sit down and think about how good a card is going to be in certain situations. As I said about Fist of Suns, great early game, huge let down late game. Dragonspeaker Shaman, great for all your dragons, doesn't do crap for any of your utility spells. These are all examples of cards that can do great, but when actually playing them, they are lackluster and it could be better to run something else. I also apologize that I haven't suggested cards to replace the ones to be removed, but I think you can handle this department. Just think about what you want to do, and the answers will come. I will make one suggestion though. Selvala's Stampede. This card is game breaking and it is just to much fun.

I hope I haven't crushed any dreams or anything like that. Remember I just made suggestions and only want to help focus your direction to what you want, from here, you then need to decide what you want your deck to do. Have a great day Krunch, and stay safe.

Daedalus19876 on Sidar and Tana

2 months ago

I'm going to make my comments here relatively brief, if you don't mind.

You have about zero removal or interaction, which worries me (excluding Price of Glory and City of Solitude, which are proactive). I would simply never leave home without Beast Within and Swords to Plowshares, at least.

Meekstone would be bonkers here. Might be worth picking up a copy.

Aggravated Assault but no Sword of Feast and Famine, in a mana-hungry deck? Shame on you ;)

Eldrazi Monument seems absolutely vital here. Gives you protection against board wipes, and even more evasion to boot. Speaking of protecting against board wipes, Selfless Spirit and possibly Dauntless Escort.

You seem VERY worried about counterspells here, in a (mostly) non-combo deck: you have Vexing Shusher and no less than FIVE "play only during your own turn" cards. Those largely seem like wasted spots - you're going wide, so I'd be much more worried about mass removal, no matter whose turn it is on.

Mother of Runes seems...okay? Protection is helpful, I guess, but she's more suited towards a deck that goes tall rather than wide. Speaking of going wide, True Conviction is neato, and Hazezon Tamar could fit in the 99 here.

If you're aiming hard for the Breath of Fury combo, I'd also add Idyllic Tutor for another way to find it.

And finally, for a deck that's 60-75%, you're sure investing a lot of money and using a lot of high-power cards. Might want to reevaluate how you look at what "75%" is.

PookandPie on f.r.i.e.n.d.s

2 months ago

I always suggest the same thing to Super Friends decks: Run Humility. +1/+1 counters still buff your creatures, while your opponent's board states get dramatically reduced and some of the largest combo lines in Commander get disrupted easily (you no longer need to worry about Protean Hulk, Tooth and Nails, even Food Chain combos are disrupted by the sheer annoyance that is Humility. Doomsday, Ad Nauseam, Aetherflux Reservoir are still threats, of course, but you shouldn't be playing Super Friends in that kind of a meta game).

Yes, Humility turns off Atraxa's abilities, and your Chasm Skulker will be a 12/12 that, if it dies, makes no tokens. However, it turns your opponent's Blightsteel Colossus into an easily killed 1/1 do nothing with no abilities, their Ghave, Guru of Spores can't combo off and kill you before you could cast a 5 mana Walker, and you don't have to worry about your opponents casting things like Woodfall Primus, Terastodon, Reclamation Sage, and more, because Humility shuts them all off. It's a very good card, and a player casting that was the only time I ever saw a Super Friends deck do anything. Not Doubling Season, not Chain Veil, it was Humility that let that guy stay in the game even though the Ghave player had an infinite life loss combo on turn 5, Roon would have had the board locked on turn 6, and Daretti was... doing Daretti things.

Another word of advice is that a lot of decks in Commander are relatively undaunted by wraths and are capable of winning all in one turn, especially if the game goes on long enough. Disruption like Beast Within (instant speed destroy target Gaea's Cradle or combo piece for 2G is good), Aven Mindcensor (phenomenal at slowing down players with fetch lands, tutors, etc.), Thalia, Heretic Cathar (slows opponents down, which is important for you), Grand Abolisher (makes you immune to counter spells and abilities on your turn. Very good. City of Solitude is a close second option if you don't like Abolisher), Aura of Silence (slows opponents down and functions as removal too. A wonderful card). To add some of these in, I'd drop some of the less effective creatures, like Endless One (doesn't even have evasion, so probably not worth it), Zameck Guildmage, Managorger Hydra (a slower Endless One with trample is just just a big, dumb beater, and it's hard to close out games with just a beater), etc.. I do also like the idea of using Armageddon, Cataclysm, etc., to force your win, but if you don't think your group will like it, then I won't push for it.

Lastly: Fertilid tends to be poor ramp in my experience. Trinket Mage chumps for a turn, grabs Sol Ring and plays it for 3U while Fertilid needs 3GG in order to even Rampant Growth you, which can be rough if it's the only ramp you've drawn. I would do a straight replacement for Mage. I used to play Fertilid in Ghave, but oftentimes if I was ramping with him, then I was already at an excess of mana and didn't need it, so it as a win more card. Or, if he's that near and dear to you, you can drop Managorger Hydra, et al, for it and run Trinket Mage in its place for your mana ramp package (it gets Cornucopia or Sol Ring, in case you draw the other before you cast it).

Gates88 on [List - Multiplayer] EDH Generals by Tier

3 months ago

sonnet666 I appreciate your response. I'll start off by saying that mentioning the obvious tier 1s (Thrasios, Zur, Tazri) was really just for completeness' sake. In hindsight, it was just a waste of time to mention them and I regret bringing it up.

You're also completely right about Mairsil, I just straight-up didn't do any research on the way that deck was going at all. The Mirror-Mad Phantasm line is great in a Doomsday shell and it's the main draw for it. The Razaketh line is a little bit more questionable since it requires creatures in play and Grixis has few creatures it actually wants to run and it can only be uses once a turn, but turning your commander into Diabolic Intent isn't bad by any means. I still think that Kess and Jeleva are clearly superior Grixis commanders though since they can have 99 cards that are gas and not dilute their deck at all. It's similar to Teferi vs Arcum Dagsson. Teferi runs a couple of bad cards or cards that aren't good for reasons other than The Chain Veil combo (Thran Dynamo, Gilded Lotus, and The Chain Veil itself would be useless without the rules interaction that allows for the combo), but Arcum runs a lot more bad cards because it needs to have artifact creatures to sacrifice and most artifact creatures suck. There's less of a difference between Kess/Jeleva and Mairsil than there is between Teferi and Arcum Dagsson in terms of number of different cards in each deck, but the principle is that Mairsil requires more build-around cards than the other Grixis generals and it hurts him overall. Regardless, I apologize for my ignorance and I think that tier 2 can be a valid placement for now.

I forgot that Razaketh was your pet deck. I won't bother arguing with you about it then.

I disagree about Karador. It's true that he reduces his own cost, but only if creatures are in the graveyard, which there will probably be few unless someone has wiped or you have Survival of the Fittest/Fauna Shaman. In the latter case, you probably won't need Karador since you'll be able to tutor up Boonweaver Giant and a sac outlet (or whatever you're comboing with) relatively quickly anyway. It's true that he casts creatures from your graveyard, but only one per turn, so saying he effectively makes your graveyard your hand is a huge overexaggeration. Being able to cast creatures from the yard is also only useful if you have creatures in the yard, which is not too difficult to achieve but not always a common gamestate. Compare this to Tymna, who generates value at every stage of the game as long as you have creatures, and he looks much less favorable. The Abzan Boonweaver strategy has never really relied on the commander for anything but value, so the fact that Tymna can create more value more quickly than Karador speaks to her advantages and his weaknesses. If you won't put him in tier 3, consider at least moving him down to tier 2.5.

Everything I said about Teferi was in jest. In fact, I believe I even said later in my post that I was just joking around when I talked trash about Teferi. I don't post a lot on tappedout anymore so I don't blame people for not knowing, but I am a Teferi main and although I don't consider myself an expert, I know the deck pretty well. The Blood Pod matchup is probably Teferi's worst matchup (it's even worse than Ruric Thar, which is saying a lot), but it's not enough to keep him out of the top tiers.

Your suggestions for additions to Teferi are understandable but misguided. The primary reason that Paradox Engine and Dramatic Scepter aren't in Teferi is partially because the deck already has two and a half alternate win conditions - Rings of Brighthearth+Basalt Monolith is one, Power Artifact+Monolith is two, and Teferi+Stasis is almost a win condition - and doesn't need to dilute itself by running any more. All the cards I just mentioned are also good on their own - Monoliths for obvious reasons, Rings of Brighthearth for its ability to copy Teferi or Tezzeret's abilities, and Power Artifact for generating more mana while comboing with The Chain Veil. Neither Dramatic Reversal nor Isochron Scepter have utility on their own. Imprinting a Counterspell or a bounce spell on Isochron Scepter is a fine strategy in 1v1 (and I used to play Scepter Chant back in Mirrodin-era Extended, so I know how it feels), but it ultimately isn't good enough in the midgame to be worth running. Dramatic Reversal is effectively just a ritual and has very little utility outside of the combo. We already have access to a lot of good rituals, like Teferi for example, and we don't need another one that badly. Paradox Engine is too reliant on cards that are already in hand and costs 5 mana. Why would you tutor for a situationally relevant card that costs more to cast than The Chain Veil and is not a guaranteed combo? Furthermore, running these additional win conditions would require multiple cuts to either the manabase, card draw spells, counterspells, or bounce spells, which would weaken the deck in some other aspect. It's just not worth it to run these cards.

And just because Manifold Insights isn't as good as Lim-Dul's Vault doesn't mean it's trash. Being able to see 10 cards deep and getting 3 nonlands is a big deal, even if it's the three worst cards in that set. The fail state of Manifold Insights is either getting your 3 worst mana rocks or your 2 worst mana rocks and a counterspell that's not relevant (ex. Flusterstorm at a table full of creature-heavy decks). That's not great, but it's still 3 cards that will likely not be dead. The only major drawback to the card is its sorcery speed, which is unfortunate but ultimately not a dealbreaker. And obviously the card is unplayable with fewer than 3 opponents, but ideally that shouldn't happen.

Finally, do not under any circumstance go with a different decklist than what you have posted. Even though it does not match my personal list and I don't agree with every card choice in it (cough Expedition Map cough), the comprehensiveness of the primer section is encyclopedic, which makes it an excellent resource. It talks about primary combo lines, alternate lines, matchups, single card choices, and even budget alternatives. If you are already vaguely familiar with competitive EDH, you could become a somewhat competent Teferi player just by reading that primer and goldfishing a bit. Something drastic would need to happen in order for that primer to become irrelevant, on the scale of a major banning or maybe a change to the rules interaction between Teferi and The Chain Veil.

As far as Yidris goes, Jim has talked a lot on the discord about his deck and the gist of it is that Yidris is plan B. Plan A is jamming a turn 3 Ad Nauseam, which he aims to do as often as possible. That should give you an idea of how important Yidris actually is to the deck. His current list also still runs Mass Hysteria, so Concordant Crossroads could be a possible addition to improve it. I doubt Need for Speed would work well though, it overlaps with Rain of Filth too much and you'd rather sac your lands for mana than give your dorks haste in most circumstances.

I would argue that The Gitrog Monster can fight through counterspells more easily than Sidisi, Undead Vizier can because of cards like City of Solitude and Autumn's Veil, but you're right in that both decks are linear and somewhat fragile. Gitrog makes up for this by being able to clean up at really weird times, like their own cleanup step.

I think Tier 3 is solid for Atraxa. She has pubstomp written all over her, so it makes sense to put her in the pubstomp tier.

When I said that Dimir was a limited color identity, I meant in terms of what it can answer and how well it can answer it, specifically in regards to artifacts and enchantments. Black can't really interact with artifacts or enchantments at all, and blue only has bounce spells or counterspells. Hurkyl's Recall and other bounce spells are only temporary, and unless you can win the turn after a bounce through countermagic for sure, you will still be in danger of the problem card resolving the following turn again. Swan Song and other counterspells are reactive, which a combo deck really doesn't want to be. Compare this to Grixis, which has access to Vandalblast and By Force, or Esper, which has access to Disenchant and Detention Sphere (in Zur), or Sultai, which has access to every good card in the format, and Dimir looks worse by comparison.Even the creature removal isn't as diverse when it comes to wipes. Dimir only has Toxic Deluge while Esper has Supreme Verdict and Grixis has Rolling Earthquake and Fire Covenant. That's really the only weakness of the color identity, but it's not a trivial weakness and it does make Dimir combo worse than Esper/Grixis/Sultai/4 color combo.

As for your question on Baral, whether High Tide isn't strong or Baral is just bad, the answer is kind of both. Baral is a commander who gets outclassed by Jace in almost every way, and although he isn't weak by any means, Jace isn't outrageously strong to begin with.Jace can loot more consistently, can get more value in the midgame when cards have been binned, and can enable double Tide turns. Baral's cost reduction is nice, but that's about the only advantage he has over Jace. Blood Pod is also pretty brutal against Baral since all the win conditions either require Islands (making it weak to Choke) or artifacts (making it weak to Null Rod and Stony Silence).

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