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Drown in Sorrow
All creatures get -2/-2 until end of turn. Scry 1.
Drown in Sorrow Discussion
2 months ago
the best boardwipes are cards that work in the highest number of different situations. what are you going to do when you have In Garruk's Wake in hand on turn 5 when you're facing down a lethal board of vampires. The same goes thing goes for Drown in Sorrow , it's not bad turn 3 to clear the board of dorks, but what if you top deck turn 11 when you're looking for an answer to Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre . The other thing you should focus on in boardwipes is mana cost. The best boardwipes allow you to wipe the board and follow it up with another play.
With all of that being said here are some of my favorites, boardwipes that I never let my decks leave home without: Damnation , Wrath of God , or Day of Judgment Blasphemous Act Austere Command Toxic Deluge Merciless Eviction Hour of Revelation
I rarely ever run single target removal in my commander decks anymore, instead running boardwipes, or multi target removal cards such as Decimate or Crush Contraband . You can never hope to generate card advantage if you always plan on trading 1 for 1 with your opponent.
2 months ago
Hello everyone, i'm new to this format so i have very little experience in terms of deckbuilding. I would like to ask a couple questions:
1)when you are facing aggro players what are the best wrath effect cards to slow them down? And how many of them should you run in your deck? Of course a card like Damnation is great because with a mana cost of 4 it allows you to wipe the entire board. But for other cards is it more important for them to cost less to wipe out smaller creatures (like Drown in Sorrow ) or maybe to cost more but to be one sided (like In Garruk's Wake )? Also how many single creature removal cards like Fatal Push should i put in?
2) Same goes for counterspells.. how many of them should you run in your deck?Of course if you are a control player you would run more than if you are an aggro one but more ore less how many?
3) About Draw cards: if your deck is not already based on drawing as many cards as possible, how many cards that allows you to draw are you supposed to put in your deck?
3 months ago
4 months ago
I think another form of mass creature removal is not a bad thing to have in the sideboard, although I don't want to destroy many of my own creatures which will make Gray Merchant of Asphodel pretty week as a finisher and also I need them to attack. So a Ratchet Bomb or Ritual of Soot is usable here in that sense, and Bontu's Last Reckoning isn't bad but it's a total boardwipe and better used in extreme situations. Maybe Drown in Sorrow paired with Ratchet Bomb is the better combo I guess? About land destruction I definitely want to get some of those lands you mentioned.
4 months ago
The decks cool! Plenty of answers and plenty of aggro too. If anything, depending on your meta maybe Ratchet Bomb and Damping Sphere ? +1 either way! Mono-black devotion is still a contender. Went and got 3-1 at a local tournament last month. My only loss was Izzet Drake or Phoenix? I'd never heard of the deck and didn't have any graveyard hate. Your deck would do well I think. Maybe some form of land destruction? Ghost Quarter , Field of Ruin or even Rain of Tears . And if you need a big wrath to just get rid of creatures on the cheap to back up your Drown in Sorrow Bontu's Last Reckoning is great for the price or Ritual of Soot . Idk, all depends on what you play against and how you want the deck to play. Take care!
4 months ago
the deck is fine. Smallpox works against devotion strategy so that's a no go with our deck. Fatal Push is good but if price is an issue Victim of Night is great. Cast Down is nice as well. Liliana of the Veil is cool I run her in my deck but she can be meta dependent regardless of what people say. sometimes i'd rather drop a creature or do something else so I side her out. Thoughtseize is nice but Duress is fine and Inquisition of Kozilek is cheap now so you could add those instead. id move 2x Geth's Verdict to the side for emrakul or hexproof creature decks. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is ok but sometimes you draw it and it sucks. you're better off running just one. if you're not running x spells or drawing a ton of creature cards that you want to empty from your hand it's pointless to run more than one. I will say a 1x Bojuka Bog can come in clutch especially in the game one against dredge or izzet phoenix. I'm not saying the previous suggestions are bad or wrong, this is just my experience playing with my version of devotion in my meta. also, 1x Ratchet Bomb , 2x Pithing Needle 2x Relic of Progenitus in your side plus 2x Geth's Verdict . maybe 2x Drown in Sorrow 1x Whip of Erebos 2x Damping Sphere then whatever else your meta dictates? Mind you, those are just suggestions. put what you like and have fun! +1
5 months ago
Honestly I'd stay mono red unless you have a good reason not to. I'd convert this into a more classic burn list after that. Some substitutions that I'd make are:
Lightning Strike -> Magma Jet burn + scry at the same mana cost.
Wizard's Lightning -> Rift Bolt guaranteed one mana bolt, the wizard clause makes Lightning too fragile.
Ghitu Lavarunner -> Monastery Swiftspear one of the best creatures for a burn deck.
Viashino Pyromancer -> Thunderous Wrath one mana for 5 damage is a pretty likely scenario here.
5 months ago
Hi there, I'm from the advertise your commander thread.
I used to have a Nin, the Pain Artist deck based on stealing and copying your opponents stuff. I always liked to win using your opponents cards, so its nice to see a deck with a similar theme.
I think your current build has a lot of room for optimization as there are many cards that have strictly or subjectively better counterparts. These are some suggestions for cards I would replace and what with:
Other cards that fit the theme of the deck: Clone, Stunt Double, Phyrexian Metamorph, Clever Impersonator, Roil Elemental, Vesuvan Doppelganger, Cackling Counterpart & Rite of Replication (Non budget: Bribery & Gilded Drake)
I would probably drop the flicker subtheme you currently have because you dont run a lot of creatures and go down a few lands (37 should be fine) in favor of more draw (Rhystic Study & Mystic Remora are nice). Also, one of the good things about black is the access to tutors. By adding tutors you increase the consistency of your deck, as they effectively serve as an extra copy of all the other cards in your deck. Lim-Dul's Vault, Beseech the Queen and Dark Petition are some good relatively cheap ones. (If you want to invest a bit of money in it, Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor are great.)
I hope this helps and good luck with deckbuilding!
PS. Dont forget to comment on the previously posted deck in the 'advertise your commander deck' thread. ;)
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