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I like the idea of cards like Bloodghast and Grave Crawler. However, I'm not the person who plays as aggressive as possible, and if the opponent has a blocker, both can be kind of dead cards because they don't even block. I still like having red because in my opinion Lightning Axe is one of the more powerful cards in this deck as is Reckless Wurm. At the moment, I'm trying something like this:
4 Fauna Shaman 4 Lotleth Troll 4 Squee, Goblin Nabob 4 Reckless Wurm 4 Nightshade Assassin 4 Grave Scrabbler 4 Lightning Axe 4 Zombie Infestation 2 Big Game Hunter 1 Muck Drubb 2 Fiery Temper 23 lands
I'm not sure about having a full playset of Zombie Infestations here as Lotleth Troll and Fauna Shaman both seem to be a bit better with Squee, but getting a 2/2 token each turn for free is not the worst.
I'm also not sure about the Faithless Looting. Of course it can make some good card advantage, but on the other hand it's kind of slow. I removed Oona's Prowler as it has no synergy with Squee an it's another 2 drop which there are already plenty of.
Skull Collector seems to be good, if you play 4 Bloodghast and 4 Grave Crawler, which are easy to replay, but I think most of the time, I want to use my third turn for some madnessing.
I also thought about putting a single Scourge Devil into the deck to make the final attack with the Wurms more efficient and as being the end of the Fauna Shaman chain.
About Dark Withering, I have to agree. To many games were lost because it had no legal target. I can't imagine, how 4 Big Game Hunters would work but I'll test it, as it also can be a card to sideboard out (and against Tron, it can kill Emrakul, the Aeons Torn before he attacks).
Unfortunately, I have no magic online so it will take some time to test this list and to get the cards. I really like your BG list though, and while I'm still not sure about the Mask and Oonas Prowler, it seems to be pretty strong. Does this beat things like Affinity and Pod?
I'd max out the Hardened Scales , get a few Experiment One , and replace the Retribution of the Ancients with Unmake and replace a Putrefy with Mortify . As good as Desecration Demon is, I think that you'd be better off with a third Corpsejack Menace and a fourth Herald of Anafenza . Your mana curve is also really low on two drops. I'm personally fond of Tidehollow Sculler , but it doesn't fit the deck well.
I'd cut the Kin-Tree Invocation down to one, as it will only be useful late game.
Burst of Strength is a nice combat trick, allowing you outlast at the end of your turn, then when your opponent declares attackers, you untap the outlasted guy so he can be a surprise blocker, and it gets a boost as well.
Bramblewood Paragon is a nice two drop.Deranged Outcast might work.Lotleth Troll can get big quickly, and the regeneration makes him hard to kill.Quirion Dryad is insanely powerful in this kind of deck. She will get bigger practically every turn.
Hey rockmsockmhobo thanks for your suggestions!
I like Lotleth Troll , but the Threshold cards don't work well because I can't cast them from the yard. Unburial Rites is perfect because it actually costs less in the yard and pitching it early helps tremendously. My big threats all have ETB triggers, so the Monstrosity doesn't fit the deck mechanics as well as the others.
First of all thanks for commenting and rating!
The reason you don't see Muck Drubb in the sideboard anymore is that I am constantly trying new things out while I'm too lazy to update the description =).
Like you suggested, I am thinking of adding green and I am already putting a decklist together. I still have to work out certain things like how many noncreature-madness-spells to play if I play a certain number of Fauna Shaman and Lotleth Troll and the mana base requires a lot of testing. Also I have to find a way to get those expensive land cards, as this is kind of a budget-friendly list without the fetches.
I like cards like Necrogen Mists , Mask of Memory and Deepcavern Imp a lot, but I want to try keep madnessing at instant speed. Especially against opponents who don't know your deck it can be quite important to surprise them with end of turn stuff (and a "end-of-draw-step-Psychotic Episode ). I think I will (as you suggested) try to do some shenanigans with the mask instead of the looting.
Another problem I have is the issue of how many Squee, Goblin Nabob I should be running. He works so well with Zombie Infestation and also good with Faithless Looting and he would also be great with Fauna Shaman and Lotleth Troll , but he is not so good on his own or with only Oona's Prowler.
If you can come up with a decklist for jund colored madness, I would really appreciate that because I really need help with it (also thought about asking pro player Patrick Dickmann who sometimes is in my local store).Maybe we could work a list out together.
Maybe include some tri lands?
I have a similar deck but i splashed a little bit of red to add Faithless Looting . great card to discard creatures and get your girsly, mulch and satyrs. Maybe also consider Lotleth Troll somewhere in here. Great for discarding your creatures in your opening hand and survive early game.
another fun card is Moldgraf Monstrosity
Just a quick note simply because you might not be aware, but those 2 Phyrexian Metamorph even though I don't understand why they're in your deck they should probably be changed to Clever Impersonator Since he can copy anything not just creatures and artifacts. Also you're playing a weird combination of creatures, is this a mill deck or a pack rat/devotion deck?
The description says that you try to discard Stinkweed Imp and Bridge from Below from your hand. Well that's fair enough but those are the only 2 cards that you actually want to hit the graveyard the rest apart from Narcomoeba are bad in your graveyard and don't help you. It comes down to what you want you deck to do either it's a dredge deck or it's a Pack Rat deck since the way I see it those are your current win conditions. If you want to play the dredge side of things a deck that I've seen have great success would generally play cards like Bloodghast Gravecrawler Vengevine and Lotleth Troll it's pretty simple how it works, but if you want a full on explanations I can give you one. If you're set on the whole bridge from below concept you've got going on here take out your metamorphs and your pack rats and put in Gravecrawler Vengevine and maybe add a Life from the Loam or two. Basically to completely sum up what I'm trying to say, decide what kind of deck you want to play and try and focus on that rather than going a little in every direction. There are so many great cards for a mill deck or a pack rat deck, but if you try and push too many different kind of archetypes into your deck you're essentially just making it weaker. Regardless hope that helps gl with your deck.
I feel he has less upside than Lotleth Troll personally, which didn't see serious competitive play. I guess standard has a use for him now though.
Lotleth Troll is great in these shells i think you will like it
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|Power / Toughness||2/1|
|Avg. draft pick||1.14|
|Avg. cube pick||13.05|
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Return to Ravnica||Rare|