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Creature — Zombie Troll
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Lotleth Troll Discussion
1 week ago
I really feel like this has potential. The idea of using Glissa to get a lot of value out of midrange facing midrange feels strong, but I'm feeling like there need to be some major changes to make that choice valuable enough to make it work.
This isn't a minor tech change card, unfortunately, and thats what feels wrong about this deck.
There are a sets of cards worth looking at to substantially increase glissa value, make it more resilient, and help maximise the deck's power when facing other midrange lists (which is what it should want to do with glissa value).
So when warping the shell, lets break this deck down into 'blocks of cards, and try swapping them out. Glissa Traverse BG Midrange copy has my breakdown of the various packages- not perfect, but it gives you an idea of how fragmented all the different things you are trying to do is.
I'd try to look for some 'bridge' cards, that like seeing glissa, and that other packages like seeing. You could look for something like Arcbound Ravager synergies from some of the older, higher-on-the curve affinity lists, or try for Lotleth Troll/Throne of Geth or Grinding Station/Myr Servitor synergies. You could splash blue and become a Reshape toolbox deck, or Thopter Foundry combo, or red and become Trash for Treasure/Inkwell Leviathan, or go full lawful evil and make it a lantern control variant. There are oodles of possibility.
The big question is 'what do I want to retain about this shell'. The grindiness? Big creatures? Big value bauble recursion? Because depending on the answer to that question, there are a lot of possiblities.
3 weeks ago
Easy to cast things that help stuff you or cast other things might help your QoL like:Lotleth Troll, Hedron Crab, Call the Bloodline, Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip, Pack Rat, Shinen of Life's Roar, Silverglade Pathfinder, Sinister Concoction, Zombie Infestation
Things muldrotha will turn into all upside.
1 month ago
1 month ago
I believe that the black cards are to appear later on the game, right? It seems that you prefer to make progress with green first. If it were the opposite i would recommend black cards that can take out adversary cards. But you dont seem to want to use black this way.
With which you gonna begin your game is always a hard decision, and not necessarily done by terms of color but strategy.
Really awesome to think about this, the kind of strategy that may surprise you in a game. I believe i will plan a commander strategy based on this soon.
Hope it helped... Good luck!
1 month ago
Lotleth Troll can put cards in your grave if that's all you need.
Like mentioned above Grisly Salvage is probably your best bet.
1 month ago
Maybe also Sidisi, Brood Tyrant, Taigam, hand of Sidisi, and Whip of Erebos? I also like Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, and Lotleth Troll with this commander, Vessel of Nascency, and maybe even Elder Deep-Fiend, Distended Mindbender, and Decimator of the Provinces.
This is a great list for reference - thank you!
1 month ago
You have a lot of graveyard recursion, but not a lot of sac or discard effects or sac outlets. Is the idea just Abzan/Junk value here?
It might be helpful to test with more dredge and at least a few more sac or discard outlets. I'm wondering about:
- Life from the Loam
- Dakmor Salvage
- Golgari Thug
- Stinkweed Imp
- Putrid Imp
- Pack Rat
- Lotleth Troll
- Birthing Pod
- Grisly Salvage
- Vessel of Nascency
- Liliana, Death's Majesty
And maybe a Whip of Erebos.
The value here looks good and this doesn't need to be a sac dec or anything, but I do think you need more enablers for Teneb and your recursion effects.
Have fun brewing!