Creature — Zombie Troll
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: Regenerate Loleth Troll
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Lotleth Troll Discussion
4 days ago
I see what you are trying to do with Gravecrawler and Vengevine, where you get a Bloodghast while Prized Amalgam is in graveyard, thus giving you a zombie, meaning that you can then cast Gravecrawler from graveyard and get Vengevine, but that combo requires that you have at least one land in hand, and one Bloodghast, one Prized Amalgam, one Vengevine, and two Gravecrawlers in graveyard, making the combo very rare and the deck very inconsistent.
I suggest that you take out the Gravecrawlers and thus the Vengevines as well, because without Gravecrawler you don't cast any creatures. Add blue and play Narcomoeba, which is a good creature to have early game and an easy way to trigger Prized Amalgam. Also, Stitchwing Skaab is ridiculously good, it triggers Prized Amalgam and is a discard outlet, along with being a great attacker. Lotleth Troll has little to no use in dredge, as it takes up to much mana that you could otherwise use for drawing/dredging and Stitchwing Skaab. Thought Scour is a great draw spell as well as a mill engine; it allows you to dredge on turn one (occasionally) and at instant speed. Dakmor Salvage is great for getting back Bloodghast and it gets you a land when you need one, as you aren't drawing any cards and thus can't draw into lands you need without disrupting your engine.
I learned about your deck on reddit while reading about other people's dredge decks, and I just want to point out that, in my experience, Insolent Neonate is by far the best possible turn one play, as you can dredge on turn one, which if you go first, is before your opponent can play any of their sideboard hate (except for Leyline of the Void), and, if you go second, it is before they can crack their turn one Relic of Progenitus or play a turn two Rest in Peace (it doesn't do anything against turn one Grafdigger's Cage).
I often play Modern Dredge competitively, so I hope you like these suggestions. Great ideas though, I really like your deck!
P.S.: Always sacrifice the Insolent Neonate during your opponents turn if it is game one, and during your turn if it is game two or three.
P.P.S.: This is the link to my dredge deck Narcomoeba Dredge
6 days ago
@ bswhite: As for Dreamscape Artist, I'm just testing him out for the time being. I put it in place of Lotleth Troll. I'm trying to find the perfect discard outlet. I would totally just use Survival of the Fittest if I had one. Overeager Apprentice has been working out so well that I was looking for something similar. 'Discard, ramp, win' type of situation. I really like Seasons Past so I may just toss that in and see how it plays out. Thanks for the upvote and constructive comment!
1 week ago
1 week ago
Hi Boza, I've been testing a few iterations of dredge and haven't quite settled on a preferred deck list yet.
I was looking to the manaless dredge list in legacy for inspiration. Playing creatures for mana is cool - but playing them for free is better! Narcomoeba is key for cheating our Prized Amalgams into play. I like Lotleth Troll but the text on Narcomoeba is what makes this deck work.
No Vengevine or Gravecrawler in this list - I think DredgeVine is certainly more explosive if you hit your nut draw, but I feel this version packs more enablers and dredgers which makes it a lot more consistent. I still want to test with Vengevine though - have you played with that list much? How did you find it?
Agree the mana base is a bit painful. I would ideally run Gemstone Mine over Mana Confluence but don't own any mines at the moment. I know Stitchwing Skaab stretches the mana base, but it gives us another recurrable threat if we've already turned over all our Narcomoebas and/or lost our Bloodghasts to exile effects.
2 weeks ago
also Sadistic Hypnotist would be savage
2 weeks ago
They're not useless, any thoughts are welcome. I don't disagree with you, I'd love another Lotleth Troll but it's a pretty tight deck to find room for one.
3 weeks ago
Diregraf Colossus is good as mentioned above.
3 weeks ago
Thanks for the suggestion, but I think I'll put it in the maybeboard for now; I've tried to remove all creatures without scavenge from the deck except for the Lotleth Troll and the Corpsejack Menace, so at this particular juncture I think the Reaper of the Wilds would feel like a step backwards, even if it is a pretty nasty card in general.
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