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Creature — Zombie Troll
Discard a creature card: Put a +1/+1 counter on Loleth Troll
: Regenerate Loleth Troll
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Lotleth Troll Discussion
1 month ago
Hey, like your build, considering just spinning it myself for a bit on mtgo. I'm working on a similar build, using Lotleth Troll and recurring stuff like bloodghast/gravecrawler. Big win con is Liliana's Indignation or if I'm not afraid of sweepers, army of the damned. Crypt of Agadeem gives the mana for big spells.. anyway the question I have for you is why not play urborg, if street wraith has swampwalk. As a one of in case you hardcast. Right?
Also rec sage is a creature that fights grave hate, could be good in the board
1 month ago
ShrimpImp In my opinion, none of the new Undergrowth mechanic creatures from GRN were better than what is already available and in the deck as far as big threats. For example, Molderhulk is not better than Ghoultree, and Lotleth Giant is to expensive imo. Golgari Raiders is the best I think but I haven't tested it yet.
I used to play Lotleth Troll like you mentioned but I stopped using him because discarding creatures from my hand didn't seem very good. You want to be putting creatures into the graveyard straight from your library.
2 months ago
really love this deck! do you think any of the new guilds of ravnica cards would fit into this deck? my first paper deck was a similar build to this but more ravnican golgari based. Lotleth Troll was my main heavy hitter.
2 months ago
I draw a card at my draw step. Instead of drawing, I dredge the Golgari Brownscale, gaining 2 life, putting 2 cards in my GY and returning the bornwscale to my hand. The life gain triggers the Lich's Mastery, making me draw another card. But before resolving that trigger, I discard the Golgari Brownscale to my Lotleth Troll, and resolve the troll's ability before the lich's ability. Would that create a loop where I gain life, put +1/+1 counters on the troll, and mill my library, until it is depleted?
3 months ago
Lotleth Troll seems like another good option in this deck! A sticky threat with trample plus counters.
3 months ago
So the deck focuses on using Lotleth Troll and Cryptbreaker to discard cards like Gravecrawler, Bloodsoaked Champion, and Bloodghast for value and then keeps a swarm of undead 2/1s attacking your face.
I really like how the deck runs right now but the main thing I'm curious about is if I can find better replacements for Stinkweed Imp or Gurmag Angler. Stinkweed is great for filling my grave with my undead swarm, and having a flying deathtouch blocker has been relevant in many situations. However I was curious if there is anything better value-wise for this spot. I was looking at something like Emrakul's Evangel since it can give me a way to recycle my swarm once they are out of my hand and on the board. I don't have any sac outlets so I was leaning towards this guy.
Anybody have any thoughts or tips on this particular slot in the deck? Any particular utility lands I should be running?
EDIT: For some reason when I post the hyperlink it takes you to an older version of the deck... try the link instead and it should take you to the version with Tasigur rather than Jarad - http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/lotleth-value/?cb=1537798897
4 months ago
As someone who put together a modern zombies list, I'd say it's a bit of a meta call. By that I mean in a vacuum it may not be the "best" option, especially not against fast combo (although that could be mitigated by maindeck discard and/or splashing white for Tidehollow Sculler) or unfair aggro decks like bridgevine. But I play it as a fun and original choice that just so happens to be a sweet foil to all of the attrition-style decks played at my FNM. The selling point of Zombies is that they are recursive, so they play out like slower merfolk, but also have enough card advantage to keep up with any UWx control deck, any GBx midrange deck, Grixis Death's Shadow, Mardu Pyromancer, the list goes on. Notice the comparison to merfolk, as I feel the best build of zombies looks quite a lot like thetanman91's list, but includes lands that almost always come in untapped (fetch, shock, fastlands, basics), and also mutavault and aether vial to provide the aggressive pressuring stance any creature deck in modern should provide. My personal color splash choice is green, which is for maindeck Lotleth Troll and sideboard abrupt decay/maelstrom pulse, though blue and white each have their merits. The coolest thing about the deck is that you can tune the numbers of your specific zombies to face the kinds of decks you expect to see-add more lords (especially Death Baron) if your meta is heavy on humans, CoCo, or other creature decks; add more value zombies like Relentless Dead or Cryptbreaker if you expect midrange; add interactive zombies if you expect combo, like the aforementioned Tidehollow Sculler or my personal favorite, a few copies of collective brutality, which synergizes quite well with Dread Wanderer and Gravecrawler. And that isn't even covering the untapped potential of the new cards like Assassin's Trophy when they come out!
The most important thing to remember-never write a deck or archetype off as unplayable in modern, there are always ways to make decks viable. Such is the fun of a wide open format.
4 months ago
Maybe in a budget Dredge/re-animator build. It's a niche card that requires a lot of support to be consistent. I'll toy around with it some today/tomorrow and see if I can come up with a budget build for it. My first thoughts are Lotleth Troll, Grim Flayer, and Grisly Salvage to fill the yard.