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I totally agree, Maelstrom Pulse is awesome. I'll look into getting one or two.
I think you may be misunderstanding the Scavenge mechanic, though. Say, for example, a Lotleth Troll is in your graveyard, and you use Varolz, the Scar-Striped to Scavenge him for BG. You add two +1/+1 counters to target creature, because the Troll has 2 power. Pretty basic stuff.
Now, if your Lotleth Troll has three +1/+1 counters on it, making it a 5/4, then you Giant Growth it, making it an 8/7, then your opponent kills it with Terminate, it goes to the graveyard and all the +X/+X effects go away. You're only ever going to Scavenge for the power that is actually printed on the card, not for the power it had before it was killed.
That's why Death's Shadow Scavenges as a 13/13, even though on the board it might just be a 3/3.
Anyway.... Maelstrom Pulse! Awesome card. I'll be buying a couple soon.
Vengevine is just the best. I myself would be playing it at my LGS if not for the ban of Deathrite Shaman. If we could still play Deathrite there would be no need for the Red splash. Pre-banning the games went something like this:T1: Fetchland, into DeathriteT2: Land, Lotleth Troll, Dump your hand full of creatures, cast a Gravecrawler with Deathrite's exile of the Fetch in the GY. Vengevine(s) Trigger. Move to Combat Step, Opponent Concedes the game.
You can still have similar turns but that requires you to play Birds of Paradise. Birds can get your to Trigger on Vengevine or just make you some much needed mana early on in the game. My suggestions would be to Sideboard the Big Game Hunter and the Deepcavern Imp for a play set of BoP.
Your removal suite is good but the Doom Blades just fall short. Abrupt Decay is much better in a lot of match ups. Especially with U/R Delver being the deck to play. Murderous Cut us a great removal spell for cheap.
I wish you luck with the deck. Watch out for those Rest in Peace players.
tcgplayer.com is usually the cheapest place to get singles. Lotleth Troll is only $1 these days, now that it's out of Standard!
Post your other decks, I always like to see what people are up to. :)
Thanks for all of the ideas. Unfortunately, I took the last 2 Lotleth Trolls from my local Magic store, but I am looking for more. This weekend I will hopefully be able to find some of the common/uncommon suggestions and maybe order some of the less common cards online. Thanks for the suggestions (I need them)! Also over this weekend I hope to post some other decks that I have had for a while online for advice and constructive criticism.
I think replacing 4 to 6 of the lands with fetches would actually make it THAT much faster and consistent. An Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth couldn't hurt either.
Liliana of the Veil would also be a powerful addition, but Smallpox could replace her in the meantime.
I can see this deck having issues with UR Delver, UWR Control, any turn 1-3 combo deck, Planeswalkers and Hexproof.
I keep wanting to add Green to this for things like Lotleth Troll and Rancor but I think that's just me.
As FAMOUSWATERMELON said, you should focus the deck down to more copies of fewer cards.
For example, you say you'll "hopefully" have a Lotleth Troll by turn 3, but you don't even have 4 in the deck! Put 4 in the deck, it's a great card!
The power level difference between Lotleth Troll and cards like Trestle Troll and Sluiceway Scorpion is very large. You're better off taking out the weak (usually common-rarity) cards and really focusing on a strategy. A turn-3 Lotleth Troll is a good start.
I would take out the Drainpipe Vermin, Disciple of Griselbrand, Blood Artist, Feed the Clan, and Debilitating Injury, at least. Put in more Lotleth Troll and Grisly Salvage, which finds your Trolls and fills up your graveyard. Varolz, the Scar-Striped might be fun to add, too.
Cool deck, good luck with it! +1
Absolutely put Faithless Looting in this deck. I have a similar (albeit less good) Madness-based deck, and Faithless Looting i an all-star in both. Beyond that, I would recommend a few more G sources, if only to get the Lotleth Trolls online with greater consistency. Lotleth Troll can handily carry a deck by itself, and 4 is frankly not enough. Happy deck buikding.
|0.05 TIX||0.25 TIX|
|Power / Toughness||2/1|
|Avg. draft pick||1.14|
|Avg. cube pick||13.05|
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Return to Ravnica||Rare|