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Discard a creature card: Put a +1/+1 counter on Loleth Troll
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Lotleth Troll Discussion
1 week ago
hey :) i think the modern zombie decks tend to run more aggro rather than control; lands that don't come in to play tapped, and more 1-cost spells/creatures. i personally don't like playing aggro decks, because they make me sick, so i'm going to suggest some more control/midrange stuff for you.
1 week ago
So after about a careful year of continual tweaks and trials, this deck is firming itself up quite well. With the newer Zombies we've received from both Shadows Over Innistrad and Amonkhet, I feel this deck got a bit stronger, more resilient.
Notably, I've completely replaced Diregraf Ghoul, which was always a great play on Turn 1, with the new Dread Wanderer. It carries the same power I'm looking for with some additional resiliency built it! I've also included a playset of Lord of the Accursed as an additional Lord to pump up the team.
I've dropped all creatures with CMC 4 or greater to better synergize with Collected Company. I've also reduced the land count from 23 down to 22 as a result. Thanks to bold44 for the land makeover. Adding in two basic forests for the first time to guard against Bad Moon and reducing the Mutavaults down to 2 and the Cavern of Souls down to 3. Bold44, you suggested I go down to 2 Cavern of Souls, but I tell ya, it's really great to get one early against a control player.
empes, I saw that you linked up this deck to your Tribal Library that you created, and I appreciate the inclusion! Thanks for the mention there as well as the suggestions you were throwing in!
There are some cards in the Maybeboard that I think are worth considering, and cards that other members here have suggested. I do think they are great suggestions, but for the life of me, I'm finding it just too difficult to see where they fit in and, more importantly, what comes out to make room for them. Help is always appreciated.
I have outstanding questions! Of note:
Another big question is what's better: Thoughtseize or Inquisition of Kozilek in the sideboard. What's better? Not getting pinged for life but grabbing anything you want out of their hand, or saving the life but putting a restriction on what you can take?
Lastly...Grave Pact. Too cutesy? Way too awesome in this deck not to have?
1 week ago
You're welcome! I bought this deck for my wife and she loves it. You may also think about adding dredge creatures just to fill your graveyard a bit more. Examples are Stinkweed Imp, Golgari Grave-Troll, Golgari Thug. I use them plus The Gitrog Monster and Lotleth Troll to form an unassuming combo in which you dredge, hit a land, discard the dredger and dredge again. As long as you hit a land every time you dredge (which isn't hard), you can mill yourself as much as you want, then cast Living Death to get everyone on the battlefield. It's kind of jankey, but she's assembled it several times to great effect.
1 week ago
I've had a mono-black zombie deck since the original Innistrad and I gotta say if you're running Diregraf Colossus then you HAVE to be running Gravecrawler's. Pitch them with Cryptbreaker's, play Colossus with extra counters because they were pitched, re-summon them which triggers both the colossus' AND any wayward servants you have out.
My only suggestions for what to take out to fill for these beautiful bastards would be the Liliana's Mastery's (you're already running 8 lord effects) and the Endless Ranks of the Dead. Trust me when I say I know how hard it can be to cut pet cards (rip Lotleth Troll) but it will really help out your overall play consistency.
3 weeks ago
Interesting deck. Crypt of Agadeem is definitely worth considering. You should develop the mana base overall.
Lotleth Troll, Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord and Dredge cards like Golgari Grave-Troll ? Then maybe some incarnations Genesis, Brawn, Filth (with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth). These cards are not zombies but all have some use in graveyard decks. Take what you want.
3 weeks ago
I suggest you take out the Corpsejack Menaces, Winding Constrictors, and Kalonian Hydras. You really don't need them when you're already giving your creatures enough counters to one-shot your opponent, and they'll just end up being win-more cards. Like robbnoble said, replace them with Lotleth Troll, Collective Brutality, and other such cards.
If you're going for a regular G/B counters deck that has an explosive finisher, I suppose you could keep the Constrictors, however Hardened Scales is probably better because you can play it turn 1 and it won't add extra -1/-1 counters on your creatures. Or just play both.
I tried making this deck, but I kinda just got bored of it. One idea was to use a bunch of tramplers (Lotleth Troll) and protection spells (Vines of Vastwood). Another idea I had was to go the Bogle route and then give them trample with Rancor and spells like that. And another one after that was to make it out of a Delirium shell, and after that Infect. It's a fun combo to pull off, but be sure you have ways to protect your creatures so you don't get blown out.
3 weeks ago
I enjoy doing this with Varolz, and I have a few recommendations. Lotleth Troll and Collective Brutality will help you dump these creatures for a bonus, rather than paying mana just to chuck them. I also really enjoy running Hunted Horror in the deck. He tramples over the tokens he gives your opponent, and can dish out huge amounts of trample damage with a scavenged dreadnought or shadow. Plus, if he dies or is discarded, you get to scavenge him to another creature with 7 counters for 2, which isn't half bad in my book.
3 weeks ago
three new excellent additions for this deck. first Bloodrage Brawler acts as Lotleth Troll copies 5-8 second is Bone Picker as this is a card to help turn the game around when you're on the back foot as a fling deathtouch blocker is never a bad thing. as you attack with a cheap reanimator then cast this for B.last thing is Supernatural Stamina as it makes something big or reanimates a creature in response to removal and triggers Prized Amalgam