Creature — Zombie Troll
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: Regenerate Loleth Troll
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Lotleth Troll Discussion
3 days ago
4 days ago
Sorry if there is already a thread on this, I couldn't find one so I decided to just post.
There's been a few 4-color dredge lists that have been surfacing in a few tournaments and multiple bigger name streamers are getting on (SaffronOlive did an instant deck tech, and TWoo has been streaming with a variant), mostly because of Prized Amalgam and Insolent Neonate becoming options. My question though is this:
What card choices are actually correct?
I've seen a few that run Bridge from Below, Hedron Crab, Narcomoeba, and Lotleth Troll in some combination of flex slots that all seem really good but there is no clear cut "best" of these as far as I can tell.
Has anyone here had experience with the deck that can weigh in? I'm for sure wanting to get into this deck but I'm holding off until I can get a little more feed back from others who know more about the archetype than I do.
6 days ago
Yeah Wrath of God vs Supreme Verdict is hard to choose. But in my FNM meta there are creature decks, merfolk and control so for me the non-counter is more relevant . I would say Wrath has its merits for sure though vs Thrun, the Last Troll and Lotleth Troll so if you wanted to replace them for your meta that's perfectly fine. Thanks for the suggestions!
1 week ago
killerlocust First of all I would like to say big thanks for taking so much time and effort in this case.
To your points.
The Mana base :
this is mine deck's actual state, which is developed by cards I have in my collection or already bought for this deck. - Polluted Delta is great suggestion (missing in my collection)- Overgrown Tomb is great suggestion (missing in my collection)- Wooded Foothills is a replacement, because I am missing other fetches. - Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth I believe this is the best suggestion from you, I have totaly overlooked this land. Special thanks for this one. - Dakmor Salvage I've found it as great extension, to make sure Bloodghast is comming back ( yet, I am missing Life from the Loam ) until I get it, I believe this is the way. I liked LftL, when I proxied, but like I said aint got one.- Mountain I keep one of, in case of very aggresive decks like burn (before sideboarding), in case I have Fetch and Insolent Neonate on opener. I will consider replacing it.
The Discards :
I totaly agree on that point. But I am still confused because Zombie Infestation does same in graveyard as cards I would replace for it. I like the idea. defenetly will try one of Zombie Infestation or maybe even two. Probably replacement for Lotleth Troll and one Hedron Crab, even Crab is on 1 mana slot. One idea came just over my mind Troll give advance on discarding - you can discard 1 card, but Zombie Infestation forces you to discard two cards at the same time. So we might fixle our selfs if we have one card only.
- Gnaw to the Bone I am having "agrresive meta" so that is why 3 of them
- Darkblast for mana dorks of all kinds (also helps with those little pesky elves) believe me they can combo prity fast.
- Ray of Revelation No objections, totaly agrre on that one.
- Godless Shrine what is that for ? For Ray ? to be able cast it from hand ?
- Illness in the Ranks no tokens here, not Bitterblossom
Once again, thank a lot for your comment.
1 week ago
The mana curve seems high given the general cost of the creatures in this deck. Access to them comes relatively cheap through cards like: Animate Dead, Necromancy, Survival of the Fittest, Entomb, Reanimate, Victimize, Zombify, Epiphany at the Drownyard, Grisly Salvage, Buried Alive, Chill of Foreboding, Commune with the Gods, Dread Return, Dread Summons, Gather the Pack, Jarad's Orders, Life from the Loam, Endless Obedience, Boneyard Wurm, Dimir Doppelganger, Fauna Shaman, Ghoultree, Golgari Grave-Troll, Dakmor Salvage, Hell's Caretaker, Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip, Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, Lazav, Dimir Mastermind, Lotleth Troll, Mortivore, Necrotic Ooze, Nemesis of Mortals, Prized Amalgam, Splinterfright, Tarmogoyf.
If you look at all these cards you'll realize that this deck is designed to run on 4 - 5 mana, at most. Which I've never had a problem getting onto the field. Mana rocks and lands just take up space that I could use for more destructive entities.
1 week ago
First I'd like to point out that Brawn isn't modern legal. Whoops.
What's your budget on this deck? How much are you willing to spend on it? I'll assume for now you're keeping it cheap.
Graveyard strategies are pretty in right now. You could pull in some cheap and powerful delve cards like Gurmag Angler, Become Immense, Tasigur, the Golden Fang, andTombstalker. (note, tsaigur costs a few dollars) Though if you'd rather keep your creatures IN the graveyard, you have some other options
Maybe think about Wasteland Viper, which gives you some early game presence, while in mid-late game bloodrush acts like a spell and it puts another creature in your graveyard.Slaughterhorn is another bloodrush card to think about.
Or how about creatures who give benefits for discarding, allowing you to chuck creatures out of your hand? Heir of Falkenrath Flip and Lotleth Troll can do that for you, becoming decently powerful for their mana cost.
1 week ago
Life from the Loam is a lot better than Groundskeeper, since it dredges. I'd play a few Ghost Quarters so take advantage of that loop also. I'd play Lotleth Troll and Golgari Grave-Troll to get your dredge on quickly.
1 week ago
You may want to think about taking out things like the Trestle Troll and the Korozda Gorgon for more imposing threats, like another Lotleth Troll or more scavenge fodder. I have a similar deck in which I run 3 Slitherheads and 2 Bond Beetles, just for their enter the battlefield effect, which would help with your enchantments. If you really like Golgari Germination, maybe think about adding a sac engine to take advantage of the tokens.
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