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Lotleth Troll Discussion
9 hours ago
I like the way this is going to. Call to the Netherworld seems like a solid card, sometimes just a win-more but since it can return your Lotleth Troll (or make even more card advantage by brinigng back Grave Scrabbler or Big Game Hunter), it is more than it might look like.
With Bloodghast you definitely go into an even more aggressive version of this since it's really just anotehr attacker. My problem with it though is, that it doesn't do anything in a stalemate. I always had the feeling that it doesn't add any power to a 10/9 Troll but I have to admit that I never tested that too much.
When I don't want my Big Game Hunter to destroy my own creature, I just don't cast it when discarding. A 1/1 doesn't make the difference most of the time.
And Vengevine is an interesting idea, because even when you play a spell for it's madness cost, it does get casted (otherwise it couldn't get countered and stuff). The problem here is, that we don't have access to Basking Rootwalla and Survival of the Fittest (though I also did some shenanigans with Fauna Shaman. A way to get there could be with Grave Crawler, since it's easy to cast him and with a sacrifice outlet and maybe some other etb triggers, you could do crazy stuff with him and Vengevine.
I do like the idea of more Faithless Looting (once upon a time, my deck was only black/red and I played 4 copies of it), and I am definitely thinking about implementig it into the sideboard when my aggro plan fails. Unfortunately I don't have a lot of opportunities to test the deck so it only changes slowly.
However, I really like your take on the deck and the fact that you help me improving it. I will update my list as soon as possible after I tested some possible changes (as I said, I like the idea of Call to the Netherworld).
13 hours ago
So, this is what I finally came up with: Is this madness? Sure it is.. Call to the Netherworld allows you to freely discard one more time, Bloodghast is also really good since it's basically a free madness creature. Be careful with Big Game Hunter, his wording means clearly that if he comes into play, he has to kill this wonderfull 10/9 Lotleth Troll since it's the only creature with greater than 4... :p
Also, forget what I said about Vengevine being good here. A "madnessed" card ain't cast but played, so it's kinda useless here.
4 days ago
Nah, Commune with the Gods puts cards in the graveyard, seems very good!
Hi, this is my favorite type of deck, thanks for building one! Aside from Satyr Wayfinder being the best thing since sliced bread, when you have cards like Nighthowler, Splinterfright, and Ghoultree counting creature cards it really is important to run as many as you can! I would cut Wreath of Geists for this reason.
I like how you're playing some Ruthless Rippers already. Merciless Executioner, Sakura-Tribe Elder are also good at tossing themselves in the graveyard. You are missing out on Return to Ravnica block though! Lotleth Troll is sweet and pretty cheap.
5 days ago
I may test a See the Unwritten but it seems to me from testing that i often get a hand full of stuff that i cant use and would rather be in the bin for Whip of Erebos which is where Dark Deal is often great, i wish there was a better discard outlet in standard though (e.g. Lotleth Troll)
6 days ago
I was playing with Necrotic Ooze for a little bit, I really didn't like it like I thought I would. Taigam's Scheming has been the card to come out to really make things like Lotleth Troll and Ooze fall off.
However I do think that all 3 cards are playable together, but the build is entirely different and in something more like a Gifts Ungiven deck.
1 week ago
Also your 6 cards short of being a deck. And other options for cards be Beast Within Strangleroot Geist Search for Tomorrow Lotleth Troll Treetop Village Dismember (really really good are all these cards) and they will allow you to adapt and resist opponents attempts at harming your strategy.
I entered the 2015 pax east (Boston convention) with my modern deck and went 3-1 if you want an idea of what decks can do with some serious synergy and interactions among each other ($500 deck but still a ton cheaper than most top teir versions)
It's called Jund ain't dead (PAX EAST)
1 week ago
Methinks relentless rats is (sorry) way too slow and clunky for tiny leaders. You are using Varolz, who is the centerpiece for some crazy combos. Your deck would probably be much better with cards like Phyrexian Dreadnought, and Death's Shadow, and efficient ways of getting them into your graveyard, like Stinkweed Imp, Grisly Salvage, or Lotleth Troll. With these cards, you can easily make Varolz, into a ridiculously large
monster. You should also replace Rhystic Tutor with something better.
1 week ago
No... sirbar I realized I dont have enough power on board to make him worth it. Noticed when I looked over my mainboard..
Most of the reason I took this deck up wasnt due to hype... Just kinda realized I liked Lotleth Troll and went out to buy the 4$ playset so if anything does happen to make it a thing... He cant become a 10$ card I cant afford.
|Power / Toughness||2/1|
|Avg. draft pick||1.14|
|Avg. cube pick||12.84|
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Printings View all
|Return to Ravnica||Rare|
- Lotleth Troll + Slitherhead
- Varolz, the Scar-Striped + Lotleth Troll
- Lotleth Troll + Nighthowler
- Angel of Serenity + Lotleth Troll + Whip of Erebos
- Corpsejack Menace + Lotleth Troll + Varolz, the Scar-Striped
- Corpsejack Menace + Dreg Mangler + Lotleth Troll
- Big Game Hunter + Lotleth Troll
- Lotleth Troll + Rescue from the Underworld + Worldspine Wurm
- Lotleth Troll + Swamp
- Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord + Lotleth Troll + Underworld Cerberus
- Lotleth Troll + Gravecrawler
- Lotleth Troll + Mortivore
- Gravecrawler + Lotleth Troll
- Golgari Thug + Lotleth Troll
- Death's Shadow + Lotleth Troll + Varolz, the Scar-Striped
- Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord + Lotleth Troll
- Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord + Kalonian Hydra + Lotleth Troll
- Lotleth Troll + Pharika, God of Affliction
- Lotleth Troll + Midnight Recovery
- Lotleth Troll + Vengeful Pharaoh
- Haakon, Stromgald Scourge + Liliana of the Veil + Lotleth Troll
- Dictate of Erebos + Lotleth Troll + Varolz, the Scar-Striped
- Lotleth Troll + Scavenging Ooze + Vampire Nighthawk
- Hell's Caretaker + Lotleth Troll
- Deadbridge Goliath + Jarad's Orders + Lotleth Troll
- Blood Scrivener + Lotleth Troll
- Lotleth Troll + Vengevine
- Bloodghast + Lotleth Troll
- Damia, Sage of Stone + Lotleth Troll
- Lotleth Troll + Vengevine + Gravecrawler