|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Guilds of Ravnica (GRN)||Uncommon|
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Creeping Chill deals 3 damage to each opponent and you gain 3 life.
When Creeping Chill is put into your graveyard from your library, you may exile it. If you do, Creeping Chill deals 3 damage to each opponent and you gain 3 life.
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Creeping Chill Discussion
2 days ago
xhuggels the idea for the "mill-surveil-control" version would be to get out four Enhanced Surveillance ASAP so you can churn out as many Creeping Chill as you can at the same time, like when Dream Eater enters play. Keep chucking the Creeping Chills to the bottom of each surveil trigger so you never draw them, draw and get Dream Eater's Surveil 4, which then, with four "surveil an additional two" triggers from Enhanced Surveillance, I'm smacking an opponent for 12 life, which if I've been chipping away with an ever-growing and counter-protected Spybug, can be fatal. Add to that the fact that I've been milling up to 8 cards off their library with each blue spell because of Drowned Secrets. By the time Dream Eater comes out, that effectively ends the game right there if it's not over sooner. I'll be putting up a "Volume Two" as the "mill-surveil-control" version of this sometime in the next two weeks as well.
Thanks Oldschool930! I like to write descriptions for the decks I really get into and this is one of them, glad you enjoyed it!
2 days ago
After playing this deck a bit, I learned a few things. Dimir Spybug is fantastic, cheap, gets big quickly, and is hard to block. Thoughtbound Phantasm is also good. A 2/2 for U is already good, and it gets big and loses defender quickly. Nightveil Sprite is the repeatable surveil trigger that makes them both shine.
Price of Fame is okay even without a legendary target, but only due to the surveil. Thought Erasure is well-costed, effective, and a great surveil card. Sinister Sabotage and Unexplained Disappearance are both good. Creeping Chill is okay, but only really if you cast it from the graveyard for free. Notion Rain is great, and has amazing artwork IMO. Not much to say about Sinister Sabotage, it is Cancel with surveil attached. Disinformation Campaign is disappointing without surveil in it, and Enhanced Surveillance is best limited to 2 per deck.
2 days ago
I like the idea that mill could work, but would Creeping Chill really find value in a deck with less creatures, in a deck that does no real damage other than this? Thats just a curious question i have since i havent playtested that card yet, but it looks incredibly interesting. I guess if you can consisantly surveil it its basically just free life right? But it would be in the place of another card. Is free 3 life worth the spot? If it went to the graveyard after it gets surveiled id be on the train boss, shuffling it back into the library to surveil again, but it getting exiled is very undesirable.
2 days ago
xhuggels noncents There was a previous version of this deck that existed with four Vicious Rumors, though I forget exactly what I replaced it with. The plan at that time was to draw either that or Thoughtbound Phantasm and the relevant land source and always have a turn-one play. I am now, however, toying around in my head with a "mono-blue" surveil-mill-control featuring Dream Eater as the "big guy in the room" and Enhanced Surveillance with Drowned Secrets. Mono-blue is in quotes, primarily because I am also considering keeping a set of Creeping Chill in the deck, without mana, or minimal black sources (shock or checklands). Use the Enhanced Surveillances to dig through my deck faster, looking for counters and the Creeping Chills, and then use Devious Cover-Up to start chucking things into back into the deck.
3 days ago
the problem is some of the spells in this brew cannot be used to its full potencial. Unexplained Disappearance for example is very limited in its use as opposed to what it should be. normally you can use it to protect one of your creatures, but you lose so much trying to save a beefy Dimir Spybug or Thoughtbound Phantasm, and it takes so long to build them into something strong that its just not worth it. Creeping Chill has to be in the deck or else Notion Rain and Doom Whisperer will just kill you. if you dont draw Creeping Chill its very risky to cast or use the those spells against red decks since they do a good enough job taking your lifepoints without you helping them. Dimir surveil can be very ying and yang, opposites trying to balance one another out. its a difficult deck to pilot, as no decision is an easy one.
3 days ago
@TheSilverZephyr Thanks for your feedback! Sideboarding is tough, there are a lot of good cards; and unfortunately I'm not currently able to play this deck competitively so my input here is unsubstantiated- but I'll take a crack at it.
5 days ago
noncents it could, but to me it seems more like a more mana-expensive Unexplained Disappearance that surveils more. Now, tie that into a deck that's got Enhanced Surveillance in it with things that have effects similar to Creeping Chill in that you can mill-exile them, sure. Maybe throw in some Drowned Secrets to mill out your opponent and you might get somewhere that way. The only creature that I've got in here that's an ETB Surveil is Lazav, and he's more likely a fall-back plan because if I've lost a Doom Whisperer something has gone wrong. That being said, shapeshifting him into a Doom Whisperer has a benefit, it makes a Doom Whisperer that is immune to Cast Down.
xhuggels, absolutely, its more of a "I need some spare life here" kind of card. More often than not, its because I lean on the black mana view of life being an expendable resource if I need it to be, especially with the Surveil-Creeping Chill combo I have in here.
5 days ago
Thanks Jimmy_Chinchila! It has been added now, I was able to trade for one and bought two after FNM. And I know I'm at 64 cards, the extra four are the Creeping Chills that are meant to be surveil-milled.