Creeping Chill

Sorcery

Creeping Chill deals 3 damage to each opponent and you gain 3 life.

When Creeping Chill is put into your graveyard from your library, you may exile it. If you do, Creeping Chill deals 3 damage to each opponent and you gain 3 life.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (50)

legendofa on Fuck it, late Outlaw of …

1 week ago

Coward_Token Some of the key creatures in Dredge are Narcomoeba, Prized Amalgam, and Silversmote Ghoul. Each of these has a way to jump from the graveyard to the battlefield for free--Narco by milling, Ghoul from Creeping Chill, and Amalgam whenever either of the other two does its thing. So those can all trigger Satoru, the Infiltrator, who lets you draw, which can be replaced by more dredging.

The main problem is that Dredge is already a tight decklist, and Satoru doesn't really offer anything new, just a new way to do something it's already doing. I'm not sure how well it can replace Cathartic Reunion or whatever in Modern, and it's probably way out of place in Legacy and Vintage.

wallisface on Creature Collab

2 years ago

If you're interested in cards I ended up using at somestage during my Crabvine-period, here's everything I ran at one time or another, and my thoughts on playing with the card:

• Gravecrawler: A must-have in the deck, though I found 3x was a better number to run than the full playset, as oftentimes you really only want this card to help you trigger Vengevine, and it normally doesn't do a lot else.
• Hedron Crab: Another must-have in the deck, provided you have the landbase to support it. Without fetchlands, I don't think this would be able to get through enough card-density to be quick enough (we want a turn 2-3 vengevine swing)
• Merfolk Secretkeeper: This felt both good and bad. Being able to mill with it immediately, and then save it for a Vengevine trigger later in the game felt pretty decent. Its also a decent blocker.
• Stitcher's Supplier: I think I always included a playset of this in the deck, though it was always easily the worst card in the deck. Without an easy sacrifice outlet, this is just a really weak mill effect that then sits around doing nothing. It needs to die to get full value.
• Lotleth Troll: I alternated between playing this card and not. Its one of my "pet cards" (alongside Skaab Ruinator) so I probably favored it too highly just from bias. But being able to pitch away all the cards that weren't meant to be cast did feel great, and I have had lots of games where this has steamrolled me out a win on its own... I'm just not sure its the best choice for an optimal build.
• Satyr Wayfinder: A weird choice, but one that's done well. It can usually guarantee you'll hit your 3rd land drop, and gels pretty well with Hedron Crab, as well as giving your good odds at a turn-3 Skaab Ruinator.
• Prized Amalgam & Vengevine: My understanding that a playset of both of these go into every Crabvine deck there is, so I don't think I need to discuss much here. They're the whole point of the deck.
• Bloodghast: I only added these to my deck really late into playing Crabvine, but they do put up some amazing results. They combo very well with a high-fetchland deck, running alongside Altar of Dementia, to keep swinging then killing themselves to fuel the engine further. Also, probably the most aggressive way to get Prized Amalgam out of the grave if Vengevine hasn't been found yet.
• Narcomoeba: I played these a little, and see a LOT of decks online playing them, but to be honest I don't see the hype. Very fragile, and can't come back when killed, i'm really not sold. But, again, having seen soo many decks online play them, they're probably worth considering.
• Skaab Ruinator: My second "Pet Card", I don't think you want to run more than 1-2 in the deck, but they definitely get good results. There are a few decks where if you resolve this, it's a free-win.
• Glimpse the Unthinkable: I started playing this late into my time with Crabvine, swapping it in, in place of the Stinkweed Imp/Golgari Thug package. There are games where you resolve this turn 2 and see all the perfect stuff hit your grave, and it becomes the most-free win you could ever hope for. But other times, you just mill yourself ten lands and non-recurable creatures, and wonder what you did to piss off the card-gods. I felt like when this card worked, it was amazing. But it also felt like there were too many times when it didn't work, and left me dead-in-the-water.
• Golgari Thug & Stinkweed Imp: Probably my favorite way to ensure the self-mill engine keeps pumping, I ran a playset of Imp, and 2-3 Thug for the majority of my time playing Crabvine - making my build sudo-dredge. Being able to reliably keep milling felt great - and it's a good reason to justify running Lotleth Troll.
• Creeping Chill: I'm torn on whether this card is useful or not. On one hand, being able to basically start the game at 32 life, while your opponent starts on 8, is a pretty good feeling. On the other, this doesn't help massively to help the boardstate, and there are a lot of games where its just not relevant (you can often swing for enough quite early that the extra bit of lifedrain didn't matter).
• Silversmote Ghoul: The only reason to run this would be alongside Creeping Chill. It does feel decent, but also can be clunky with the timings of when each respective card ends up in your grave (seeing a bunch of early-Chills can be scary, as it means these guys might not be able to see play). Personally I think Bloodghast is the better choice for the 3rd "creature to recur from the grave"
• Altar of Dementia: This actually works really well, though I wouldn't run more than 1-2 in the deck. There are a bunch of cards that just want to be in the graveyard and/or get themselves killed. Most notably Stitcher's Supplier. but also Bloodghast, Gravecrawler, and even Vengevine (assuming you can bring them back). This easily turns your attacks into very-wide landslide victories. 10/10 would recommend.
• Carrion Feeder: I think I only ran 1-2 of these, and honestly, I think its hard to justify over Altar of Dementia or Lotleth Troll. I think it does definitely have a use-case (it seems great with Gravecrawler), but it feels a little niche to me.
• Wonder: I only ever played one of these, in my sideboard. But it did seem very useful in some matches, particularly when it was hard to swing through the opponents creatures.

wallisface on Dermotaxi prototype

2 years ago

Creeping Chill feels really odd here, as its unlikely to matter with the Phage plan, but also unlikely to change the clock at all using the plan-b creatures. I’d suggest swapping it out in place of more consistency. Narcomoeba fits in that same bucket of “why is it here”.

reddeath68 on Everything Has a Price

2 years ago

Lithelain Some interesting suggestions, the problem with Vengeful Strangler  ^Flip is that they just sacrifice whatever you put the curse on. Accursed Witch  ^Flip would work better but she is a bit more expensive at 4 CMC.

Combustible Gearhulk Is interesting but they can be a huge whiff at 6 mana if you hit lands, plus milling can rope you of much needed cards. For instance imagine if you accidently mill your needed board wipe or kill spell, especially if Killing Wave is your board wipe over Choice of Damnations as that would only do 1 damage.

Creeping Chill Would work much better in a self mill deck, something like dredge or surveil.

Lithelain on Everything Has a Price

2 years ago

Hi, passing by to add my two cents as I found these cards that have similar mechanics:

Vengeful Strangler  ^Flip: I like this one as it is an assured 2 hp each turn unless blocked (thus killed) and therefore attached to potentially some high value creature or planeswalker. Perhaps Basilica Screecher could be replaced/mixed with this.

Combustible Gearhulk: kinda expensive but with a similar mechanic as Sin Prodder.

Creeping Chill: good synergy with Combustible Gearhulk, but otherwise kind of bad imo (perhaps only worth ituseful against milling decks?).

WallofSleep on Suicide is Painless G/B

3 years ago

Hi Saccox, I could not find any Jungle Hollow cards in my collection. It doesn't mean I don't have any, just means I couldn't find them. I am posting the decks on here as they are in real life and the way I play them. If I do find those hollow's at some point and add them, the deck here will reflect it.

I did look for Creeping Chill I do not own a copy, not sure how that is possible it being an uncommon. The next time I go to my LGS I will see if he has 4 copies and I can test it. I will add it to the maybe board and could be a strong sideboard card for certain matchups.

Saccox on Suicide is Painless G/B

3 years ago

Hi WallofSleep, Jungle Hollow for fix the mana base? What do you think of Creeping Chill in your deck?

Spirits on Undying Persistence

3 years ago

Ok, here's a little bit of analysis to consider. Break it up into some comments to read. These are opinions based on experience, playing and watching lots of commander content over the years, doesn't account for your specific playstyle or how you have fun playing commander which are certainly as important of decisions, as is card selection.

Topic: Ramp

You are very low in the mana curve, 11 1-drop, 21 2-drop, 15 3-drop, 16 4-drop, and Orzhov () has lots of pips, but mana ramp is critical to getting your plan onboard as quickly as others, having mana available to advance board state/gain advantage and have interaction, and landing your larger threats sooner.

Sol Ring (CMC1 for 2 = +1 mana) is a must include.

Orzhov Signet I personally don't like (CMC3 for 1 = -2 mana) but also you're in which doesn't ramp as it's core strength.

Arcane Signet (CMC2 for 1 = -1 mana) is a must include, there are only a few archetypes I wouldn't play this in and usually only .

Talisman of Hierarchy (CMC2 for 1 = -1 mana) is a must include in .

Dark Ritual (CMC1 for 3 = +2 mana) this allows for explosive turns like a T1 Vampire Nighthawk .

I would start with that at least, some fringe ones I like are: Burnished Hart (creature/recursion), Commander's Sphere (draw), Mycosynth Wellspring (to hand, fringe), Pristine Talisman (lifegain, fringe), Solemn Simulacrum (ramp+draw!), The Birth of Meletis (doesn't help with , but ramp, 0/4 blocker, lifegain? it has it all!), Wayfarer's Bauble (ramp).

On a premise of battlecruiser/low/mid power 3-6 I DO NOT recommend these, but there are stronger options out there beyond 6: Phyrexian Altar (combo builds), Mana Vault , Mana Crypt , Chrome Mox , Smothering Tithe , Land Tax (Might not be bad in this build)

Honestly on a Avg. CMC 2.99 mana curve, I would likely have 10-12 ramp.

Some potential cuts for these:

Gorgon's Head you've got plenty of deathtouch already, it's not pairing with a Viridian Longbow strategy or anything, it's redundant, but also the worst. Easy cut. (We can get to Open the Armory / Steelshaper's Gift later)

Pierce Strider CMC4 for a 3/3 is just plain bad, the idea is play, do 3 damage, block/sac it, noone going to pay 3 to prevent it? but they will because it's going to do 3 anyway on return, and if your using recursion on this, your making the wrong play as it has no value engine on it. Easy cut.

Creeping Chill for CMC4 sorcery is not great, you're not playing a mill strategy so you're not really casting it for free often. It's not a strong play, we can find better ones, like ramping into Athreos, God of Passage sooner.

Font of Return for CMC6? Yikes. (CMC2+CMC4 for 3 creatures to hand is not great, we can get them on the battlefield for that high a CMC).

Angelic Gift hmm we have flyers, with deathtouch, it replaces itself (draw a card) but unless we flickering it ( Ephemerate or Brago, King Enternal something like that, it sets up easy 2-for-1 if an opponent has instand speed removal.

Topic: Lands! (Umm!)

Average Distribution Build: 38 lands

Average Budget Build: 36 lands

Average Expensive Build: 37 lands

Average Aristocrats Build: 35 lands

Average Reanimator Build: 31 lands (closer)

Your Build: 30 lands (Umm!)

No way you can run 30 lands, and 0 ramp in this deck. I wouldn't shuffle this deck with less than 33 lands, probably 34-36 if I'm playing enters tapped/utility lands. I might (maybe not) go to 33 lands with 9+ ramp spells, but even then, 34 would feel better.

Do you have a combo with Piranha Marsh like Worldgorger Dragon does, if not, just delaying yourself for little value (1 damage). Kabira Crossroads in this same bucket, it's just not work the tapped mana.

Reliquary Tower where are the cards coming from? The colorless is a detriment. Unless your playing a draw strategy Necropotence / Greed it will hurt you more than the rare occasion it might help.

Let's be honest, lands SUCK, they are too expensive! Here is a list of lands you should look at:

Lands I suggest: Godless Shrine ($9), Orzhov Basilica (<$1, slow ramp), Caves of Koilos (<$1 must have!), Command Tower (Umm!), Brightclimb Pathway  ^Flip ($4), Tainted Field (<$1)

Lands I don't suggest: Evolving Wilds / Terramorphic Expanse (<$1 fixed color), Scoured Barrens (<$1 fixed color), Isolated Chapel ($6, Not bad but not T1 land), Myriad Landscape (<$1, slow), Temple of Silence (<$1, scry/slow).

Forsaken Sanctuary only ever enters tapped so even Isolated Chapel is better, but there is also Orzhov Guildgate that does this too.

Have to head out, I'll review more topics and recs later, but here are some other cards can come out for mana. Gorgon Flail it's on theme and not bad, but let's get that Basilisk Collar or Quietus Spike instead. Soul Stair Expedition I would rather Animate Dead or Reanimate to the battlefield right away, not have to wait for lands (it still sacrifices itself). Not Forgotten we have better removal. Have to head out now! More later to read. :) If it's too much info, let me know!