Irenicus's Vile Duplication

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Irenicus's Vile Duplication

Sorcery

Create a token that's a copy of target creature you control, except the token has flying and isn't legendary if that creature is legendary.

Coward_Token on "Soundwave Superior, Autobots Inferior"

1 month ago

Irenicus's Vile Duplication, makes a flying token clone of Soundwave that won't transform. There's some othe similar cards if you're into it, although IIRC none of the come with evasion.

king-saproling on Democracy is Fun!

2 months ago

Cool deck! Personally I would make these swaps:

Messenger Jays -> Academy Manufactor
Lieutenants of the Guard -> Coalition Flag (fun to put on Tivit since he has Ward 3)
Venser's Journal -> Auton Soldier (can copy Tivit!)
Winged Words -> Battle Mastery (double strike on Tivit to double his effect)
Propaganda -> Thorough Investigation
Warden of Evos Isle -> Worn Powerstone
Emergency Powers -> Anointed Procession
Fact or Fiction -> Spark Double
Dig Through Time -> Irenicus's Vile Duplication
Eligeth, Crossroads Augur -> Inspiring Statuary (can tap itself to reduce costs, also allows you to tap clues & treasures to reduce costs)
Sphinx Sovereign -> Brago's Representative
Treasure Cruise -> Sakashima of a Thousand Faces
Opt -> Sakashima the Impostor
Unesh, Criosphinx Sovereign -> Time Sieve
Vexing Sphinx -> Mirkwood Bats
Aetherize -> Mondrak, Glory Dominus
Sphinx of Foresight -> Rise and Shine
Glyph Keeper -> Cyberdrive Awakener

Willen on Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm: Double Dragon

3 months ago

Bonehoard Dracosaur and Auton Soldier isn't good options to the deck? In a scenario with Miirym on the field, can have another Bonehoard Dracosaur to exile plus two cards and get it's benefits. Auton Soldier is {{2}} more than Irenicus's Vile Duplication, but... if you copy Scourge of Valkas or have Dragon Tempest on battlefield, attack with Myriad may be kinda of a finisher, since are two or more dragons entering at that time. Just thoughts.

DreadKhan on Lil' Shit

4 months ago

IMHO their are few bigger 'lil shit' type cards than Rite of the Raging Storm, if their is an opponent who can't handle 5/1 Tramplers they are dead meat very quickly, it's a very chaotic atmosphere with Rite out. It's also very good with many cards that would work well with your Commander, such as Mask of Griselbrand, and I can point out a bunch of other options. Relic of Sauron is a very good Grixis mana rock that can also draw a card now and then. I think copy effects are probably pretty good with your Commander, if you cast Rite of Replication on your Commander you still get 5 copies ETBing and dying, which should clear out hands and serve as a huge board wipe (you get 5 triggers each of the ETB and death trigger, if you have 3 opponents left 2 of them have 1/4 of their permanents and one has half left, similar for their hands. Irenicus's Vile Duplication is another fun copy effect, this one doesn't die right away and has flying. If you like annoying creatures you might like some of the specters out their, Hypnotic Specter is an old classic that will always take away a card from whomever you hit, and Stronghold Rats can take one from each player fwiw.

I can't decide if MImic Vat would be worth it with your Commander, if you can get him into the Vat you can make a copy each turn for very little mana, but it doesn't get sacrificed unfortunately, it gets exiled at end of turn, so you'd need sac outlets to get his Death Triggers (but on the upside nobody is going to block you).

Their are a few Chaos type cards that might help with your plans to annoy the table, I've always enjoyed Teferi's Puzzle Box, but any effect that cares about your opponent drawing cards really loves the effect, if you can get Box and a Notion Thief out your opponents each lose their hand and you draw cards equal to how many they had when they lost them. Grip of Chaos can help keep your Commander (or another key permanent) alive longer, and you don't run a ton of targeted interaction yourself. Omen Machine is pretty funny, it's especially useful if you use a high average MV, same with Timesifter. Some people will try to flip the table if you resolve a Possibility Storm, especially if your deck isn't trying to abuse the effect. If you leaned harder into your spell plan, or into permanents that work regardless of who controls them you could try Thieves' Auction, a card many that is so obnoxious that some people consider scooping rather than resolving the effect.

I hope some of these ideas aren't too disruptive, it's fun to have a deck that can troll your playgroup a bit!

MrHighscore on Koma, the other Komas, and their 100K coils

6 months ago

@Coward_Token The 1/1 Koma, Cosmos Serpent would still be legendary and one of them should be sacrificed. Am I missing something?

Irenicus's Vile Duplication seems like an awesome addition, thank you!

Cheers

Coward_Token on Koma, the other Komas, and their 100K coils

6 months ago

Irenicus's Vile Duplication is another anti-legegendary clone

Janky, but Endless Evil works on your Koma-clones

ASalesman on Unesh, Ultimate Guide (Tribal)

7 months ago

GHoag I respect the Mystical Tutor choice, and I think it is good in my build too. I think I like Spellseeker in my build more because I like that the tutored card goes directly to my hand rather than the top of the library. I also like that Spellseeker’s ability is ETB. It can benefit from Panharmonicon, and it can also benefit from cost reduction of Defiler of Dreams and Sapphire Medallion. In conclusion, I think Spellseeker’s synergies and utility are worth the extra 2 cmc in my build.

I do really like Irenicus's Vile Duplication, but because I am going to go with spellseeker for now, I’ll keep Sakashima in. I am not sure which suite is more powerful, I will have to try out both in the near future to make a better conclusion.

I do like Unsubstantiate more than Unsummon. I think the 1 more cmc is definitely worth the versatility. I still want to squeeze in Trickbind, this spell is very strong depending on the pod. Maybe it is better to keep it in the binder until I think I need it.

If I may, what did you decide to take out for Isochron Scepter and Dramatic Reversal?

Rhadamanthus on Chef's kiss & irenicus's vile …

7 months ago

While I was typing all this out, Gidgetimer responded with basically the same thing, but I'm going with it anyway as a "+1" to their response.

You get two Inferno Titans. An effect that changes the target of a spell or ability can only change it to another legal target. If it's impossible to choose another legal target then the original target remains unchanged.

115.7a If an effect allows a player to “change the target(s)” of a spell or ability, each target can be changed only to another legal target. If a target can’t be changed to another legal target, the original target is unchanged, even if the original target is itself illegal by then. If all the targets aren’t changed to other legal targets, none of them are changed.

wallisface: The ruling about Chef's kiss possibly making a target illegal is for cases where you gaining control of the spell causes that to happen. For example, if your opponent casts Irenicus's Vile Duplication on one of their creatures and you Chef's Kiss it, you now control a spell (and a copy of it) that can only target a creature you control, is currently targeting a creature you don't control, but can't have its target changed to a creature you control. Since it isn't possible to choose a new legal target, its target won't be changed and it will fizzle for having an illegal target.

Note the ruling listed right before the one you quoted: If there are no legal targets that could be selected, the targets remain unchanged. Note that this may not mean that those targets are illegal as the spell resolves. For example, if an opponent in a two-player game has hexproof and casts Lava Spike targeting you, Chef's Kiss will not be able to change the target. However, this doesn't make you an illegal target, and both the original spell and the copy will still target you and deal 3 damage to you.

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