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Choose target player and another target player. The first player controls the second player during the second player's turn, and the second player controls the first player during the first player's next turn.
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Cruel Entertainment Discussion
1 day ago
SurpriZe, I wasnt meaning to ignore your question earlier, sorry. Here goes.
I always have a couple of card slots that I use for exploring new cards. Twilight Prophet is in one of them. I have yet to draw it, but I have reservations the same as you. I dont think it is as intimidating as you make it out, but the problems you point out are definitely there. It is definitely a potential that it gets rotated out for something. Before you even brought it up, I have had three other cards in mind for replacements. That is the nature of this deck. Keep a core list, but try new things.
I never liked Cruel Entertainment. The entire effect can be eliminated if they just agree to work together. I think any good playgroup would potentially make that card useless, and it is very unsubtle. I feel like it has a similar play feel to Sen Triplets. That level of controlling has a tendency to make enemies. A card that expensive should really just about hand you the game, with not much ability to wiggle out of it.
2 days ago
I've got a few questions regarding the current list:
2) Can you elaborate on why you have included Twilight Prophet? Doesn't it go against the nature of the deck, where dropping such a big threat makes you a target? Also, since its effect is applied only while it's present on the battlefield, wouldn't it be very easy for the opponents to simply remove it immediately, making it gain almost no value?
It also shows cards to everybody before drawing them, revealing your strategy, which is crucial to winning with this deck.
3) What do you think of including Cruel Entertainment?
2 weeks ago
I'm not a huge fan of Camouflage in here, since it only works for you, and you have very few creatures that actually want to attack.
I like the idea of running some wheel effects to power up Kydele, and use that mana to fuel some more expensive chaos cards. Teferi's Puzzle Box is a great piece of disruption that also fuels Kydele. Dig Through Time and Treasure Cruise are some really powerful spells to deal lots of damage with Vial Smasher. One really fun chaos card that I think would go great in this deck is Eye of the Storm. You've got lots of fun chaos instants/sorceries, and tacking them on to every instant/sorcery anyone plays seems sweet! Some other more expensive chaos cards are Scrambleverse and Cruel Entertainment. Both of them can make incredibly ridiculous things happen.
3 weeks ago
Worst Fears is hilarious! Mindslaver effects are sketchy though. I like Cruel Entertainment mostly because the people swap turns. If I take over them, they take over me, etc so it's a bit more palatable.
3 months ago
I'd do Sidar + Ludevic. Get Grenzo, Havoc Raiser in there. Cruel Entertainment. Any red - force attack enchantments... of which there are plenty. Avatar of Slaughter (because 2/2 suddenly double striking is great). Forbidden Orchard and things like it. The new curses could be KEY: Curse of Opulence, Curse of Verbosity, Curse of Disturbance, Curse of Misfortunes, Overwhelming Splendor
4 months ago
Check out my comments with regard to the curses on my Queen Marchesa: Politics, Aikido, and Control page. The only addition is that the optimal way to play against Cruel Entertainment is to team with the other player and attack the person playing Cruel Entertainment. That is what happens in my playgroup. We usually coordinate turns for the optimal benefit of both, and maximal detriment of the player of Cruel Entertainment. In that way, it has become an effective anti-Time Walk. Down 1 card, a turns worth of mana, and no real effect on the game, plus it just typically pisses people off. The card has disappeared from play in my group, after being something that several players thought would be hilarious and back breaking to two players. Did not work out that way, and is an example of how subtle is much better than heavy-handed, especially when the other players still have a choice they can make.
5 months ago
Nice deck! I have never seen Cruel Entertainment played, but I imagine that both players will be very angry at you when you play it. I can imagine that smart players would collude with each other when tarted by this spell, and would spend their time attacking you. This idea has kept it out of my Queen Marchesa: Politics, Aikido, and Control deck. What has your experience been with card? +1 from me!