Grindstone

Artifact

{3}, {T}: Target player mills two cards. If both cards share a colour, repeat this process. (To mill a card, put the top card of your library into your graveyard.)

Combos

• Grindstone + Painter's Servant

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Big Apple Highlander	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Freeform	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
PreDH	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (50)

wozislightning on Phenax

2 weeks ago

I like it. Very similar to my build.

A couple of quick thoughts: Aphetto Alchemist at worst untaps your biggest toughness guy for a second Phenax activation. He can also be pseudo-ramp if you have artifact mana. At best, he goes infinite with Illusionist's Bracers by targeting himself with the copied triggers.

As you have Undead Alchemist already, you get a similar effect from Zellix, Sanity Flayer. Both of these work spectacularly with Altar of the Brood. The Altar is one of my favorite cards in my version.

As you have Grindstone, have you considered The Water Crystal? The crystal makes it so it looks at more cards, and if any 2 of the 6 match, the process repeats (refer to the updated wording on grindstone with the newer printing). The Crystal also works well with any effects that just mill an opponent for a single card, turning simple effects into quick clocks (Mesmeric Orb shines here).

Elrond, Moon-Reader is a card that I am waiting to get my hands on to add to my paper deck. It seems like quite consistent card draw.

Best of luck and happy brewing!

wozislightning on The Horror Mill

1 month ago

I always love a good mill deck - I have a Phenax, God of Depeption deck that has a surprisingly high win rate, and mill is a blast to play.

You have a ton of great interactions here. Zellix + Altar, Mesmeric Orb + Water Crystal, etc. I know it isn't a Horror, but I would consider Undead Alchemist as a second Zellix that can also exile problematic creatures that are milled. Singularity Rupture is a wrath that works towards your game plan. You don't necessarily always want to wrath (being creature focused), but having access to at least one will help against other creature strategies. Grindstone is a consideration as another way to break Water Crystal, but is a bit narrow. Adding a little card draw often goes a long way as well. Phyrexian Arena & Into the Story could be considered.

As for cuts, I am not a fan of Glimpse the Unthinkable in multiplayer games. I like it for self-mill, but it does not progress the board - and unless you are killing someone the turn you cast it, it is card disadvantage. Other cuts are tricky, but I would say one or two of your 7 drops for mana cost/curve reasons may be considerable cuts. Your mana curve is high, and could hurt depending on your playgroup.

Best of luck, and happy brewing!

wrightri on Killian, Field Referee

8 months ago

Grindstone should probably be in the deck for the combo, but I didn't want to win that way. I'm running Painter's Servant for the extra value from Deathbringer Liege and exile loop with Teysa, Orzhov Scion. Thank you for the suggestion and upvote though :)

theNeroTurtle on Killian, Field Referee

8 months ago

since you are already running Painter's Servant, just thought I would let you know it combos with Grindstone. You may not be into that, but I felt like it should get mentioned. Great build. 1+

theNeroTurtle on Phenax mill

8 months ago

Looks like you already dropped the deck to the right count. So no help needed there. I could be wrong, but the theme of your deck seems to run closer to Black Vise and other cards causing everyone to have a lot of cards in hand than it does with your commander. I could be wrong though. I am going to recommend the Grindstone + Painter's Servant mill combo, only because mill is kind of a thing in this build.

If you can tell me more of what you are looking for, I would be happy to make suggestions.

1+

theNeroTurtle on Zellix The Undying Miller

8 months ago

Grindstone + Painter's Servant = Infinite Mill Target Opponent once per turn. Great colorless combo.

theNeroTurtle on Rogue Mill Commander

1 year ago

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I would definitely move Terisian Mindbreaker out of the maybe board.

An infinite mill combo would be Painter's Servant + Grindstone

theNeroTurtle on Hazardous Healing

1 year ago

Grindstone + Painter's Servant is a win combo for mill. Cut Your Losses and Bruvac the Grandiloquent is an instant kill. Traumatize does the same thing. I don’t know what your budget is, but I would look into adding some tutors for consistency.

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Solve the Equation

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Hedron Crab

Ruin Crab

Snapcaster Mage

Spellseeker

Tribute Mage

Trinket Mage

The only reason I am only suggesting Mono Blue cards is due to the fact that I already have a Mill deck. Bruvac the Grandiloquent is my commander. You can Click Here to check it out for ideas if you want.