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Eye of Ugin
Colorless Eldrazi spells you cast cost less to cast.
, : Search your library for a colorless creature card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library.
1 month ago
Profet93 Thanks for the recommendations.
I have messed around with Mystic Forge and it's associated combo a bit but I ended up cutting Sensei's Divining Top as I felt that it was unnecessary more often than not and not having ways to shuffle consistently made it way worse if I didn't have a way to go infinite with it. I mighy try Mystic Forge again but I felt that it was too slow in my testing. cEDH nowadays has the "turn 3 rule" where you need to be threatening a win or overwhelming advantage by turn 3 consistently by turn 3 if you want to be relevant. From my testing, cutting a lot of the random value pieces for extra ramp has allowed for a lot more turn 2 or 3 Eldrazi Titans and a lot more success against cEDH decks.
Manascape Refractor has been very good in testing. Mishra's Workshop is my personal favorite but it also copies Inventors' Fair pretty frequently. Ancient Tomb or City of Traitors makes it into a Worn Powerstone (which I already run). Bazaar of Baghdad and Eye of Ugin are useful as well, especially when I have access to Unwinding Clock and can repeatedly activate a random tech land every turn. At one point, this deck ran Candelabra of Tawnos as a way to repeatedly use tech lands but I would argue that Manascape Refractor is a much better way to accomplish that. High Market, Homeward Path, etc. are also surprisingly useful. On that topic, using it as a High Market with access to infinite mana through Rings of Brighthearth + Voltaic Key + Chromatic Orrery (also gives infinite untaps of all artifacts) allowed me to win once as I didn't have access to a different way to sacrifice and recast Kozilek, Butcher of Truth.
I had no idea that Soul-Guide Lantern even existed. I'm not sure if I would call it a strict upgrade to Relic of Progenitus but it is definitely good. I might swap out Tormod's Crypt for it so that all of my graveyard hate can be cycled if it isn't relevant.
Regarding the Metalworker combo, a lot of the primer is outdated. I tried updating it a few times but I ended up changing out 20ish cards so I figured I would wait until I had a pretty stable list to update it. The Metalworker combo is absolutely a backup option though. Typically by the time I would go for that combo, I would have access to casting Kozilek. As for Field of the Dead, I am not a fan of tap lands and roughly 1 out of every 20 games with this deck would even go long enough to get to 7 lands for it's ability to be relevant. I think Field of the Dead would be good in a casual meta but I try to play this at cEDH tables as this deck is ridiculously unfair to play at casual tables.
Reliquary Tower is a good budget option but it might as well be a Wastes with the way the deck runs most games. I typically mulligan for some form of acceleration and try to immediately get to 10 mana which usually empties my hand. Kozilek will get me a new hand, but very rarely will I pass with more than 7 cards in hand, and if I do, I haven't had the scenario yet where I had to ditch anything useful.
The main form of drawing power in the deck is my commander. Mikokoro, Center of the Sea, War Room, Ugin, the Ineffable, sacrificing Mind Stone, Hedron Archive, or Dreamstone Hedron are the only other ones I have for card advantage. This deck is basically an all or nothing deck intent on playing really early Eldrazi Titans, going infinite, or playing stax to slow everyone else down (usually some combination of the 3). As colorless does not have access to particularly great interaction, I have tuned the deck to be about as fast as physically possible. Most games I am able to cast Kozilek, Butcher of Truth on turn 3 or earlier (admittedly almost always at least 1 mulligan for fast mana). Although some times people will have answers, that early in the game is enough to cause problems for most decks. The plan from there is to either just kill my oponents or do as you said where I cast Kozilek, draw some cards, ramp some more, and repeat. Although the situation will occasionally show up where the game goes long, this deck absolutely shines when it is doing terrifying things really early.
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
2 months ago
How about Reshape the Earth? You can make enormous board presence tutoring for Field of the Dead and any 9 other lands. Speaking of lands kudos for using 60 of them but I don't see some crucial ones like Ancient Tomb, Hickory Woodlot and Eye of Ugin. Getting Turn 2 Azusa is also important and I don't see any tools to help with that.
3 months ago
Return of the Eldrazi
Legendary Tribal Enchantment - Eldrazi
Eldrazi you control have Indestructible, Ward and Annihilator X where X is the number of nontoken Eldrazi you control.
They thought Ulamog, Kozilek and Emrakul were defeated, turned to stone and imprisoned within the Silver Moon. They were wrong.
Big wild card
4 months ago
wallisface: they could, but if its only secret lairs and modern horizons, then 3-4 years is too long to wait for reprints. the price drop on those fetches was significant, and its just not fair to the players who need ally fetches. Verdant Catacombs was once one of the most expensive, now it's half the price of Wooded Foothills. and they could just force more rares/mythics if they want to.
4 months ago
9 months ago
Hello fellow Planeswalkers. I made this thread so we can discuss the cards currently on the Modern banlist (SEE BOTTOM OF POST) and look if there may be candidates for unbanning, since it has been a while since something moved off the list.
I'm one of those crazy people that wants to live in a world where Mental Misstep and Gitaxian Probe are legal, but I see how that's not realistic whatsoever, so I won't talk about here. Let's have this discussion to be about REALISTIC, reasonable and safe unbannings.
Here are my candidates:
Deathrite Shaman - With all the easy cheap removal and grave hate in the format plus the general push of power level in the recent years, is this really a big deal anymore? Not even sure Jund wants it anymore. Since this doesn't enable a game winning combo or lockout on the spot, I think it deserves a second chance.
Artifact land cycle ala Ancient Den. So, they even injected another 10 artifact lands - are those even being played much competitively? My gut is this was a probe to see if they indeed could unban the old artifact lands. Artifact removal is much more available these days and the old artifact lands don't even come with indestructible sooo...
Rite of Flame - but Sergio! Fast mana is broken. Yes indeed. But they did ban Simian Spirit Guide and hear my out why Rite of Flame is weaker. SSG does not require you to play or a mountain to activate, Rite does and even costs a mana to begin with. SSG has a secondary feature being a creature and can be cast at a reasonable cost of 3 mana. Rite doesn't have that. Since they took Mox Opal and SSG, I think Rite of Flame might deserve a chance as a weaker substitution.
Please tell me what you think about that and/or show me your argumenst for other unbannings that you can see happening.
10 months ago
Sol Ring, Worn Powerstone, Sisay's Ring, Thran Dynamo Mind Stone, Hedron Archive, Dreamstone Hedron Hedron Crawler, Manakin, Palladium Myr Solemn Simulacrum, Burnished Hart, Wayfarer's Bauble Eye of Ugin, Eldrazi Temple, Sanctum of Ugin
11 months ago
You realize you have to ban a crap ton of stuff, right? Mox Amber , Mox Opal , Mox Diamond and Chrome Mox all mean that everyone has 2 mana turn one every single game. Also, most decks are running Skullclamp in the equipment slot anyways, especially as that's basically the only equipment worth playing in high tier play. Other than that, you'd have Lightning Greaves . That's two equipment that you'll see.
The vehicle is always Smuggler's Copter . There's nothing else good enough to see play in high power, and everything else is a gimmick.
On lands, most decks will probably just run Boseiju, Who Shelters All , and the ones that don't get crap like Gaea's Cradle, Eye of Ugin , Phyrexian Tower , or The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale . Maybe the occasional Untaidake, the Cloud Keeper to power out big commanders.
Planeswalker? Hmmmm. . . . Oko, T3f, Wallet Sculpter, LotV mean anything to you? Between them, the only cards worth playing will be sorceries and enchantments . . . oh wait, Serra's Sanctum for the Sythis player.
It's an unplayable format because nobody can cast instants, nobody can keep a creature or artifact around because it's an Elk, nobody has a hand, all of that starts on turn one, and oh by the way you also get a Copter that you might bother to cast. You can crew it with the Mox you got to use twice before it got Elked! That's fun. Then the Elves player with 400 Cradle mana and the Enchantress player who staxed the table out while drawing 40 cards a turn will take over the game.
While it could be fun, the first couple turns will play out exactly the same every game. Everybody either gets overly explosive starts or overly staxxy starts. You could ban stuff, yes . . . but what happens when you ban the cards worth running in those slots? You get a bunch of Copters. Cards that are played because they're objectively good but you'll never cast them because almost anything else is better in this format. And then where are you? Back to commander, but with a larger banlist and everybody gets several extra useless cards in hand.
TL;DR, Interesting idea but I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole, and I enjoy degenerate piles of stax like the filthy grinch I am.