Flood of Tears

Flood of Tears

Sorcery

Return all nonland permanents to their owners' hands. If you return four or more nontoken permanents you control this way, you may put a permanent card from your hand onto the battlefield.

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Core Set 2020 (M20) Rare

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Format Legality
Oathbreaker Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Arena Legal
Brawl Legal
Vintage Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Unformat Legal
Historic Legal
Pre-release Legal
Leviathan Legal
Standard Legal
Pioneer Legal
Modern Legal
Frontier Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Highlander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Legacy Legal
Casual Legal

Flood of Tears Discussion

PaulMuadDib on Super budget Flicker EDH ($20)

3 weeks ago

I was looking through tapped out for a budged deck yesterday and this is the one that I decided on using. I didn't have all of the cards you used but I was able to fill it in with cards lying around that were out of the super budget stuff lying around and the rest of the empty slots I was able to get for a under $10, very happy with the concept here.

One thing that new players should note, which I assume budget decks attract, is that if you flicker a creature (i.e. use a spell such as Turn to Mist on it), the spell you cast to make the creature flicker will still be on the stack when the creature's enter the battlefield trigger has to choose something. So for instance, when you cast Turn to Mist on Archaeomancer, you cannot choose to immediatly return Turn to Mist to your hand, it has to be something already in your graveyard.

Some alternative budget suggestions anyone reading this list might want to consider, if they already have them for example, are:
Pierce Strider can fill the same role that the chalice fills while still using the same flicker cards that the infinite mana generator uses.
Stern Proctor is some light artifact/enchantment hate. This deck seemed to be very light on artifact hate, so it needs something. Once you have infinite mana it might also be used to bounce your own Chalice/Strider to hand for victory.
Skyscanner is half a Mulldrifter for 3 mana, not a bad pick.
Think Twice is an alright draw card that Scrivener can get back or can be used in response to grave hate.
Pondering Mage is a decent effect with a 3/4 body.
Jester's Scepter could be put in as a second chalice: just flicker it a bunch and exile your opponent's libraries.
Azorius Chancery is a tap land and I generally don't encourage these, but if you are going for infinite mana combo via untapping lands, it can't hurt to had lands which can make extra mana. Also consider Temple of the False God if you take this route.
Sunscorched Desert can in fact win if the Chalice route is used since Ghostly Flicker is able to target lands.
Engulf the Shore is a decent boardwipe that could also be used to return your own creatures to your hand for value.
Time Wipe is a good boardwipe, especially if you are able to say, bounce something to recur your Breath of Life.
Sapphire Charm is also a second avenue to win the game via decking our your opponents. You choose the first mode and they get 100 or so draw 1 triggers during the next player's turn. Since the charm is an instant, it makes it possible to do the flicker combo on the end step before your turn so that, hopefully, your opponents have used up enough mana so that they can't do anything with the cards they draw on your upkeep; the draw triggers are one at a time so the opponents could respond to each one.

Also here are some upgrade suggestions of cards that are currently $2 or less, these are some of the cards I had lying around, for people willing to spend a bit more:
Library of Leng since you have the potential to draw a lot of cards in this deck, it's always nice to not worry about discarding them.
Star Compass this common is annoyingly expensive for it's effect: probably due to the diamond cycle being about double the price.
Flood of Tears isn't too bad since you get an etb right away. The next three should be considered as a unit:
High Tide can make the Drake produce 10 mana when it untaps only 5 lands.
Capsize will let you make infinite mana off of the Drake if you have at least 2 islands out and have cast high tide.
Cloud of Faeries is something that might work to combo off with if you are able to cast high tide multiple times in one turn. That's just a consideration here since I have yet to play test this deck against real players.

Mj3913 on What are your favorite underused, ...

1 month ago

Flood of Tears in place of Cyc. Rift?

shmamby.tandenbaum on Just dump it in the SINK

1 month ago

I'd recommend adding at least one board wipe, obvi Cyclonic Rift is the best in these colors, but there are plenty of good options if you're not trying to spend all that money. Flood of Tears, Evacuation, Aether Gale, or AEtherize if you're in a meta with someone who likes to attack.

Beyond that I would just recommend adding dual lands to smooth things out. I playtested a bit, and I found myself struggling with having the right colors of mana with just basics. I'd start with adding Sulfur Falls, Hinterland Harbor and Rootbound Crag given the number of basics you're running. I'd also recommend the Pain lands Shivan Reef, Yavimaya Coast, and Karplusan Forest. Fabled Passage would also be good as the price has dropped as of this comment (though is still a little pricey), and maybe test adding Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse.

Kinkyramirez on Red/Blue Artifact Deck

2 months ago

My biggest tip for you would be to find your "Win Condition". You have a split right now between random artifacts and cards that care about artifacts/ artifact creatures with no clear singular way to win. You should hone in on what your favorite thing to do when you play this deck, or magic in general, is. Do you like making a bunch of thopters and swinging in for damage? Do you like casting a bunch of artifacts that do useful things? Secondly, you have a few artifacts that don't do anything to help you win Tower of Eons is an example. It takes 12 mana to gain 10 life, and in red and blue you can do a lot more for 12 mana! Tamiyo's Journal takes 5 mana and 3 turns to find a card for you, you have access to way better stuff! Trinket Mage Trophy Mage Gamble there are a ton of options that are more efficient ways to find something specific, and what specific thing should you be looking for? Your win condition! The card that is going to help you win, help set up your win, or keep your opponent from winning. Thirdly, playing blue, you have access to a lot of efficient card draw and counter spells! After taking out what you don't need in your deck, you should add more card draw and more "Answers". "Answers" are cards that help you deal, or "Answer" anything your opponent plays. Counter spells can handle most stuff, put you need to keep mana open on his turn and they don't do anything once he actually has something on the field. I suggest having 10 or more "answers" and this can include things like Blink of an Eye or River's Rebuke or Flood of Tears that bounce things or Rolling Earthquake or Vandalblast that can straight up destroy things. Try to balance things that can remove single target and things that handle the whole board, and some counter spells! When adding card draw, try to get bang for your buck. Opt is a 1 for 1, it doesn't fill your hand or really help you draw more cards than your opponent. Card draw is a big rabbit hole, but both blue and red have decent options, especially when combined. I suggest Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain as an easy include, and possibly a new commander, depending on what you choose for you win condition.

Welcome to magic and good luck! It sounds like you play 1 vs 1 games, so build your deck with that in mind! After they reopen, I suggest you and your bf head to your local game store because commander is way more fun with 4 players in my opinion!

slashdotdash on 5 color no theme deck

2 months ago

Dear Kronhamilton

Golos, Tireless Pilgrim is my favorite commander, and I've been brewing around him ever since he was teased. Let me just say you've chosen an excellent commander.

(I’ve written quite a lot in an attempt to make a sort of guide for you, so if you want the short version, check out the Suggestions panel)

Golos can be tricky to build around since he can do literally anything pretty well. The easiest way to make an effective Golos deck is to lean into Golos's 7 Mana Rainbow Wheel Of Death. Before getting into that though, we need to cover some EDH deckbuilding basics.

I think the most useful advice I can give someone who is just beginning to explore the deck-building territory of EDH is to structure your deck and mind your Ratios. By this I mean it is useful to categorize the cards in your deck according to the role they fulfill.

We’ll begin by looking at some core categories that you’ll want to make your deck function effectively. Then I’ll present the Ratios (how many of each category of card) you will want to make a generic Golos deck function effectively. Next, I’ll include a detailed (but not totally complete, because I’d be here all day) catalogue of cards within some of those categories. I’ll also offer up some suggestions and input about some of your specific card choices. Lastly, since I’m about to unpack a lot of information, I will include a brief list of suggestions (see the bottom) for a generically good Golos ‘Shell’ that should be able to support most Golos strategies.

Categories

  • Draw

  • Ramp

  • Removal

  • Sweepers

  • Threats

  • Support

  • Land

Draw Show

Ramp Show

Removal Show

Sweepers Show

Threats Show

Support Show

Land Show

The art of Ratios is all about determining what combination of cards from each category makes your deck run the most smoothly.

Please note that these Ratios will not total to 99 cards. This is because you will invariably have extra flexibility to choose how your deck behaves even after establishing functional Ratios. Also keep in mind that although these Ratios do recommend you adhere to the minimum number of cards in each category, you still can choose which cards will fill those slots. The point is not to restrict your options, but instead to create a ‘Shell’ that is reliable enough to power your Threats cards, Support cards, and other cards. Whatever you do, make sure you have at least the minimum number of Draw and Ramp cards. THE MOST IMPORTANT CARDS IN THE DECK ARE DRAW AND RAMP!!!

While I ultimately suggest Ratios resembling the Basic Golos Shell, I will lay out the Ratios for several different Shells;

  • Template: a sort of baseline beginner’s guide which is commonly promoted as a place to start.

  • Basic Golos: a modified version of the Template that suites most Golos decks.

  • Control: a version tailored for a slower game with many Sweepers.

  • Aggro: a version designed to act quickly and deploy Threats before the opponents are prepared.

  • Big Mana: a version invested heavily into Ramp with the goal of deploying many end-game Threats.

  • Mega Mana: an even more extreme version of Big Mana with extremely expensive Threats.

Template Show

Basic Golos Show

Control Show

Aggro Show

Big Mana Show

Mega Mana Show

Draw Show

Please remember that any suggestions I make are because I am trying to help. Ultimately, the choices you make with your deck are up to you, and I can only provide constructive criticism based on my own experience and opinions.

Good luck :)

Ratio Fixing

The most effective change to your deck would probably be adjusting the Ratios, especially with regard to your Draw cards. Applying the most basic Template Shell, you want to have at least these three quantities nailed down for a smoother and reasonably powerful deck;

  • Lands – 36 --> You have 40 Lands (Cut 4 Lands)

  • Ramp – 10 --> You have 5 true Ramp cards (Add 5 to 8 Ramp cards)

  • Draw – 10 --> You have 3 true Draw cards (Add 7 to 10 Draw cards)

What I counted in your deck Show

Mutate

Depending on how strong your Mutate subtheme is, some of your Mutate inclusions may act as engines. However, I must state that Mutate is a VERY risky and even fragile strategy since your Mutate ‘Pile’ of creatures will all be destroyed at once if your opponent uses a Removal spell or a Sweeper. For that reason, I recommend leaning out of the Mutate theme (unless the Mutate card is just straight-up insane, as in the example of Nethroi, Apex of Death).

With that said, playing a Mutate theme is your decision and I totally respect that and if you want to stick to a Mutate theme then by all means do so. I just want to be sure you know that Mutate is a risky strategy that you cannot depend on to fulfill your Ramp and Draw slots (so you’ll just need to supplement it with other cards).

Cut or Include?

At a glance your deck seems like something you have created using just your collection – and that’s great! However, if you want to incrementally upgrade your deck, then I recommend replacing most of the cards in your deck with more powerful options over time.

Here is a list of cards you should probably keep playing: - Barrier Breach (Removal, because exiling 3 enchantments is helpful in some situations)

In my opinion, there are other, better options for all of the other nonland cards in the deck, however it is up to you to decide on how you would like to proceed so I won’t intrude.

I strongly recommend cutting the Planeswalkers though – Calix, Destiny's Hand doesn’t seem to synergize much with the deck and I feel that Lukka, Coppercoat Outcast is not very potent.

Lands

Just as a recommendation, I would suggest the following spread of Basic Lands;

  • 8 Basic Forests

  • 3 of each other Basic Land

The remainder of your lands could be either more basics (which is really, really, risky if you don’t have tons of Ramp – think like 15 Ramp cards and about 12 Basic Forests) or Color Fixing Lands (see the Catalogue for more options). It is rough to have your lands enter the battlefield tapped, but unless you want to either lean into Green or spend a lot of money on lands, you will just have to live with it (I play around 5-10 tapped lands in a normal Golos deck and it isn’t really that bad).

In this section, I will list out an example of the Basic Golos Shell complete with the necessary Ratios and some examples of good/fun cards in each category. I’ll try to keep it relatively Budget sensitive and most of these cards will be relatively random – this won’t be based on any particular theme so don’t expect it to be optimal.

As a reminder:

Basic Golos Show

The Shell

Ramp – 12

Draw – 13

Removal – 7

Sweepers – 2

Threats – 12

Support – 7

Land – 36

Good Luck :)

-Slashdotdash

lagotripha on KLOS Mono Blue

3 months ago

Leviathan tribal. Neat.

Blue has a few cute options for cheating stuff into play - and a 'show and tell' style modern deck sounds fun. AEtherplasm offers a more casual trick. Blessed Reincarnation and Polymorph are traditional. Braids, Conjurer Adept is modern legal.Deathrender is usually better in combos, but functions. Flood of Tears and Fold into AEther are cute if awkward. Quicksilver Amulet is a classic, as is Summoner's Egg. Thran Temporal Gateway can do an impression of quicksilver, but is more restricitve.

Good luck with the brew!

Orsett on Xyris, the Writhing Storm

3 months ago

Alrighty! I definitely feel like this deck is reaching its conclusion. Specifically, the conclusion of dealing in hypotheticals - without holding the cards in hand and seeing how they fair against my playgroup, I fear there aren't any more substantial changes I can make.

I'm also afraid that the budget for this deck is still a bit outside of my reach. Luckily, this doesn't all have to be built in one installment. Without changing the decklist here on Tapped Out, these are the more expensive cards remaining and my budget choices for initial purchase:

Lands:

  • Despite having already cut out the worst offenders, Shock Lands (ex. Breeding Pool), City of Brass, and Mana Confluence still feel like substitutions I can make later.
  • For now, Basics will suffice - though I may have a Shock Land or two hiding somewhere in a 60 Card deck.

Creatures:

  • The only Creature that really fits the bill here is Craterhoof Behemoth. Frankly, it's fantastic and a Green staple for a reason. However, it too seems like something I can build up to.
  • For now, I choose you End-Raze Forerunners!

Artifacts:

  • Phyrexian Altar...
  • Although in a previous comment I mentioned $20+ as being around the place I'd try and trim things down, I think Phyrexian Altar is one I'll actually spring for.
  • Unlike Craterhoof, whose only role is as a finisher, the second Altar is something I'd be happy to see at almost any stage in the game. Plus, if it ever comes down to it, Phyrexian Altar is playable in almost any deck - certainly a deck of any color(s).

Enchantments:

  • Nothing to see here! The only noteworthy cards (Sylvan Library + Parallel Lives) are already cards in my collection, so there's no conflict of interest.

Sorceries:

  • Crickets chirping

Instants:

  • Which leaves Cyclonic Rift. I mentioned this card in my first comment alongside Expropriate and Tooth and Nail as a Good Stuff card that feels like needless fluffing for my nest. C-Rift, however, made it this far in the revisions where the others did not.
  • My choice of replacement actually takes things in a different direction. Rather than another Bounce Wipe (ex. Flood of Tears, Evacuation, or my previous slot-holder Whelming Wave), I'm actually going with Disrupt Decorum as my substitution.
  • I don't know. Something about forcing your opponents to duke it out just seems fun and satisfying to me. And it still meets my goal of lowering their defenses for an aggressive rush.

That's all I've got for now - I still plan to check in every once and a while, so as always feel free to reach out with ideas.

Best of luck, stay safe, and wash your hands thoroughly!

Orsett

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