Spirit of the Labyrinth + Words of Waste + Words of Worship

Asked by KillTheIslandUser 7 years ago

If let's say I have a way to draw and spirit and either words is on the table, can I still proc the trigger of words? They aren't saying when you draw. It specifically states the next time you would draw a card. So even though labyrinth says you can't draw a card, if another card like say Dark Prophecy and Vampiric Rites are in play together, do the triggers still proc? If they still proc, do I get the ability to use words of waste/worship?

Sorry if this is worded funny. I'm trying to rush together a deck idea and get ready to leave. So my mind is all not working correctly atm. I feel like this is a super easy as hell thing to figure out and, not worth asking this question.

Spirit of the Labyrinth

Words of Worship

Words of Waste

Sorry I forgot to make them linked so people can see it easier... please forgive.

May 12, 2016 4:58 p.m.

hyperlocke says... Accepted answer #2

If you activate the abilities of the Words cycle, you create a replacement effect for the next time you would draw a card. Replacement effects stop the original event from happening and replace it (duh) with something else. In this case, your card draw gets replaced with things other than drawing cards.

So when you activate Vampiric Rites for the first time in a turn (and don't replace the card draw event), you get to draw, because you haven't drawn a card yet.

614.6. If an event is replaced, it never happens. A modified event occurs instead [...]

May 12, 2016 5:18 p.m.

dragonstryke58 says... #3

Both Words of Worship and Words of Waste create replacement effects so instead of doing the intended action you to the replacement action instead. In the case of the two aforementioned enchantments, instead of drawing, you do their effects.

Regardless if you have Dark Prophecy or Vampiric Rites out, if you have Spirit of the Labyrinth out, you will still only draw one card per turn (it doesn't have to be your turn). That means you can use either Words of Worship or Words of Waste once per turn to replace your draw as well.

May 12, 2016 5:19 p.m.

dragonstryke58 says... #4

Huh. I guess I was wrong...

May 12, 2016 5:21 p.m.

hyperlocke says... #5

@dragonstryke58: You can only draw one card, but you can replace as many draw effects as you wish.

Let's say he controls three creatures, Vampiric Rites, Words of Waste and Spirit of the Labyrinth.

  • Activate Rites, activate Words. 2 creatures left, no card drawn yet.
  • Activate Rites, activate Words. 1 creatures left, no card drawn yet.
  • Activate Rites, but you want to draw, so no activation of Words. The game checks if you drew a card this turn. There were 2 abilities that let you draw a card, but both were replaced. You never actually drew a card, so the Spirit is OK with you drawing this one.
May 12, 2016 5:25 p.m.

hot, so I can still get the discard, and life gain from words... awesome. Like I said, I knew it was a simple thing... but my brain wasn't working properly. Thank you

May 12, 2016 5:46 p.m.

dragonstryke58 says... #7

@hyperlocke: I thought as much before but some people told me at an event before that the Spirit of the Labyrinth worked that way.

Good to know that has been cleared up for me.

May 12, 2016 11:40 p.m.

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