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As it says above, I am an Izzet player, and I make a lot of theme decks. Sometimes I'll sacrifice having the very best cards to fit the theme, so please don't hold it against me. I'm a big-time EDH player, though the more decks I build the more I notice they all have red for some reason...I'm going to build an Orzhov deck to break the curse. I'll let you know if it somehow ends up Mardu. I'm also the author of the Planeswalker's Guide to Andora. Currently only Irindu and the planeswalker Bagan are out, but the rest of the shards are on the way. I'm considering trying to write a book about the storyline of our little community set (actually, the Bagan part is from that). We'll see where that goes (coming back in 2020, that never really went anywhere, but it sure was fun!).

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All right, my bad. I hadn't moved to the September 19 comp rules update, this one is on me.

November 3, 2025 10:47 p.m.

The token created is not double-faced. See rules 707.8 and 707.8a. A double-faced token is only created if it's a copy of a transforming double-faced card (TDFC). In addition, since Drowned Jungle  Flip is a modal double-faced card (MDFC), it cannot transform or be transformed in the first place. It uses the rule in 707.8: When copying a melded permanent or other double-faced permanent, use the copiable values of the face that’s currently up to determine the characteristics of the copy.

708.8a only applies to TDFCs.

November 3, 2025 10:15 p.m.

You would not. While Drowned Jungle  Flip is a double-faced card, the permanent in play is Drowned Jungle itself, and that's what you'd make a copy of.

With transforming DFCs it's a little different, as the copy will be a transforming double-faced token that might be able to be flipped over by an effect, but that doesn't happen with MDFCs.

See rule 712.8f: While a modal double-faced spell is on the stack or a modal double-faced permanent is on the battlefield, it has only the characteristics of the face that’s up.

November 2, 2025 10:48 p.m.

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